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Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"

 
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His anger and rage at women was striking. It surprised me that he didn't rape someone. The intensity that he desired sex and to make the women pay sounded like a rapist to me.
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He has aspergers which made it difficult to express and achieve his needs and desires, in addition to having a poor ability to interact with others. He also sounds like he was a psychopath.
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 Quoting: Liathwulf


He lacked empathy, therefore he may have been a psychopath. Are we even sure he has aspergers? I read much of that manifesto and if he was diagnosed at an early age then why was it not mentioned. I got to about age 9 in the manifesto then I started skimming. These are Hollywood parents living in Lala land. A place where the wealthy a given a free pass, would a psychologist say Aspergers vs. psychopath to make it sound better?

Actually, many traits of sociopathy (known to many as psychopathy) are highly similar to traits of aspergers, enough that many people get the two confused. Sociopaths also express that they are unable to empathize and connect with people - this often makes their symptoms echo that of autism/aspergers, although sociopathy and aspergers are entirely different.

BTW- I do wonder if he could have "preformed" had he actually found a hot blonde to sleep with him.

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I could have killed myself from the type of feelings this dumb ass had back when I was a teen. I didn't, I got stronger and I triumphed. This guy decided to wallow in his angst well past the point that it could be dismissed as teenage bullshit. So fuck him, if he'd put any actual effort in he could have found a woman easily.

Maybe his step mom was right to call him a bitch.
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Congratulations to you. I sincerely am glad that you overcame all your obstacles and triumphed. He did wallow, he was also condescending and a materialistic little prick. I think his step mother saw him truly how he was and what he was. She refused to cater to him. She was correct that he should knock on the front door but this kids was used to him getting to do as he wanted. The step mom is lucky to be alive.
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
NPD. Nuff said.
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NPD. Nuff said.
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What? NDP???
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NPD. Nuff said.
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What? NDP???
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Narcissistic Personality Disorder
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Thank you to those who are specifying that Asperger's and sociopathy are unrelated.
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Thank you to those who are specifying that Asperger's and sociopathy are unrelated.
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But are they functionally any different? Near as I can tell, the difference is that sociopaths are better at learning social skills.
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
NPD. Nuff said.
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What? NDP???
 Quoting: Corn Dog


Narcissistic Personality Disorder
 Quoting: Liathwulf

I've dealt with a narcissist and this was something more. yeah he had traits but there was something more. I can't think of the words to describe it. Did you watch his film? That laugh...
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Thank you to those who are specifying that Asperger's and sociopathy are unrelated.
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But are they functionally any different? Near as I can tell, the difference is that sociopaths are better at learning social skills.
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Yes, sociopaths can teach themselves how to mimic empathetic functioning. They are also perfectly capable of understanding that they cause harm to others, but they experience no guilt whatsoever about said suffering. Guilt is something that as well as doesn't exist for them. They are highly narcissistic, the world is about them and what they deserve. The only "real" emotion they tend to experience is anger. Their "love" is based on what they want to possess, in a Trophy sort of fashion.

due to these tendencies, sociopaths tend to be sadistic, that is to find amusement causing others pain or "getting the better of them".

On the other hand, there is no malicious intent in the expression of Asberger traits. Those with aspergers are not typically able to create a working model of other people's emotions or intentions. They would be highly unlikely to carry out a premeditated murder precisely because they lack that capacity to functionally hate a person the way a sociopath can, or to desire and covet the status of another person or what they possess.

In the mind of someone with aspergers, the cognition of "other" mind just doesn't really exist in the same sense, so yes, they are quite different disorders.

Sociopathy also tends to manifest as antisocial behavior (ie, killing, white collar crime, thievery, rape, etc) more often because it dispenses with guilt. Aspergers is not like this.
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Thanks, that makes sense and jibes with my own experiences. I'd much rather deal with an aspie than a sociopath. At least I can tell right off that the aspie doesn't give a fuck about me and act accordingly.
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
cant read it, its all jibberish
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sad situation. I've always said experts should look through yearbooks and check the hollow or hurt eyes of possible future killers like him.
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
He was Jewish and Malayan - mixed race men are always violent and suffer from mental issues.

This guy was a frail short man who want a LA 8 (blonde blue eyed) blonde.

What a dolt.

I'm six foot two, good looking and I'm lucky to get any white girl over a 5.

If you want Nordic 8/10 women in appearance they are such rare commodities in California and Canada, hence these women will only date the most successful and wealthy men (and these women will date men decades older than them. Look at Hugh Hefner, age 80+ and yet is sleeping with 20 year old hot blondes).
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
If he wanted a blonde so bad - he could had taken his daddy's money and goto Estonia / Latvia. Women there are poor, everyone is a 8/10 blonde, therefore they see themselves as average and will put out for any man with any decent success or money.
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
7 pages of nonsense comments...... You people would do well to not believe everything you see and hear on the television and newspapers. This whole thing is more than likely bullshit.. As in FAKE. Just like sandy hook, Boston bombing, Tucson shooting, etc, etc,.
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Gotta wonder if he was one of the misogynists who post on GLP.
Just sayin' ...

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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
The video of Elliot in the car is badly recited. The 'signal' was far too obvious and unnatural - when he makes out the shape of a triangle with his eyes (up, right, left, back to center) near the end of the video to show who's behind this thing.

The first photo Daily Mail decides to publish of one of the victims... She is flashing / saluting the camera with a fucking triangle sign.

First interview clip with the pretty blonde girl... She breaks down in false sobbing then stops and says, "then he, like, shot". Total anticlimax.

Isn't it funny how so many people are being forced ("news doesn't lie") to think this fantasy is real? Is that not the definition of madness?

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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
I don't believe much of what MSM reports.

But it's kind of hard to believe someone falsified all 141 pages of very accurately reported teenage angst.

Plus, he got all the details right, as far as living in the area he claims to have lived.

It would be extremely difficult to make up a manifesto like that and pass it off as true to the trained eye.

I really don't think it happened that way, and I am conspiratorial.

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If I were a rich person, I would never be miserable....never. 5a
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I read it, what a loser. All he does is whine about not being cool, his dad also sounds like an absent whipped douche. Who wants to hang around with a guy whining about girls? Also why didn't he ask these cool kids about their woman skills? What a fucking loser, wish I could have whooped him.
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
This "manifesto" has a ton of detail.


Isn't that creepy?


This shooting happened... how long ago now? And here we are reading this kids' innermost, darkest of thoughts? blink
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his parents called the police the day before and nothing was done

SBPD has some explaining to do
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Gotta wonder if he was one of the misogynists who post on GLP.
Just sayin' ...

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ROFL I don't think so though, he seemed quite a shallow kid. I mean he used all of this grandiose language but deep down he seemed quite ignorant, he didn't have much depth to himself. COming to glp inevitably you get some knowledge about metaphysics and other things that make you a bit more deep than this guy was. I think the problem is that he never got any wisdom beyond his videogames and his wealthy school education. You need something more to make it in life.
Banned as usual.

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Oh and to that person who said I was wrong in saying he would have liked Marx, this guy had all the traits for a socialist dictator, he wanted to centrally plan everyone's lives and have his army of thugs enforce his laws. He believed in an utopia and he was willing to sacrifice the individual freedom of the populace to enact it, that's the surest sign of a Marxist communist. He just had a mysgonist bent to it.
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
More women-hating and blaming! Nothing new under the sun.
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Gotta wonder if he was one of the misogynists who post on GLP.
Just sayin' ...

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 Quoting: Sarah Conner


ROFL I don't think so though, he seemed quite a shallow kid. I mean he used all of this grandiose language but deep down he seemed quite ignorant, he didn't have much depth to himself. COming to glp inevitably you get some knowledge about metaphysics and other things that make you a bit more deep than this guy was. I think the problem is that he never got any wisdom beyond his videogames and his wealthy school education. You need something more to make it in life.
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He really was shallow
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Gotta wonder if he was one of the misogynists who post on GLP.
Just sayin' ...

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 Quoting: Sarah Conner


ROFL I don't think so though, he seemed quite a shallow kid. I mean he used all of this grandiose language but deep down he seemed quite ignorant, he didn't have much depth to himself. COming to glp inevitably you get some knowledge about metaphysics and other things that make you a bit more deep than this guy was. I think the problem is that he never got any wisdom beyond his videogames and his wealthy school education. You need something more to make it in life.
 Quoting: Manu-K


He really was shallow
 Quoting: Liathwulf


I read what you wrote that if you had crossed his life he wouldn't have ended like that, I would say the same. I think I could have rehabilitated that kid. I actually have helped save a suicidal friend of mine and got him out of the states, he's now in Scotland doing much better. Sometimes people only need someone to care for them and guide them. Give them some kind of framework and perspective, this kid got none of that.

Also America can be quite destructive for certain people. More so when growing up.

Last Edited by Manu-K on 05/25/2014 04:25 PM
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
Gotta wonder if he was one of the misogynists who post on GLP.
Just sayin' ...

burnit
 Quoting: Sarah Conner


ROFL I don't think so though, he seemed quite a shallow kid. I mean he used all of this grandiose language but deep down he seemed quite ignorant, he didn't have much depth to himself. COming to glp inevitably you get some knowledge about metaphysics and other things that make you a bit more deep than this guy was. I think the problem is that he never got any wisdom beyond his videogames and his wealthy school education. You need something more to make it in life.
 Quoting: Manu-K


He really was shallow
 Quoting: Liathwulf


I read what you wrote that if you had crossed his life he wouldn't have ended like that, I would say the same. I think I could have rehabilitated that kid. I actually have helped save a suicidal friend of mine and got him out of the states, he's now in Scotland doing much better. Sometimes people only need someone to care for them and guide them. Give them some kind of framework and perspective, this kid got none of that.

Also America can be quite destructive for certain people. More so when growing up.
 Quoting: Manu-K


California is the most shallow place on earth, that being said if he had an actual proper male role model in his life things may have worked out better for him.
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Re: Full 140 page manifesto of Elliot Rodger "My Twisted World"
Kid was a weak piece of shit. Special place in hell for these types.
Life's a bitch. Pull up your socks, suck it up. Work hard, make some cash and you'll maybe get some attention. Is a symbol of his self-absorbed generation.
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I just finished reading the manifesto, holy crap was this man demented. He figured the entire world revolved around him. He was definitely mentally warped from the beginning. I couldn't help not feeling a little sorry for him, he needed Jesus, I think everyone needs some religion form in their life to ground them. JMHO

I wonder why it ends at pg 137 when it says to 141. Are pages missing at the end?
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cant read it, its all jibberish
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I read it all word for word, took me 10 hours. 2 last night and 8 today. blink





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