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Decline of religion in the West has created a rise in black magic, Satanism and the occult

 
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ROME---The decline of religious belief in the West and the growth of secularism has “opened the window” to black magic, Satanism and belief in the occult, the organisers of a conference on exorcism have said.

The six-day meeting in Rome aims to train about 200 Roman Catholic priests from more than 30 countries in how to cast out evil from people who believe themselves to be in thrall to the Devil.

The conference, “Exorcism and Prayers of Liberation”, has also attracted psychiatrists, sociologists, doctors and criminologists in what the Church called a “multi-disciplinary” approach to exorcisms.

Giuseppe Ferrari, from GRIS, a Catholic research group that organised the conference, said there was an ever growing need for priests to be trained to perform exorcisms because of the increasing number of lay people tempted to dabble in black magic, paganism and the occult.

“We live in a disenchanted society, a secularised world that thought it was being emancipated, but where religion is being thrown out, the window is being opened to superstition and irrationality,” said Mr Ferrari.

The abandonment of religion “inevitably leads people to ask questions about the existence of evil and its origins”, he told Adnkronos, an Italian news agency.

About 250 priests were trained as exorcists in Italy, but many more were needed, the conference organisers claimed.

“Just in the dioceses of Rome, around a third of calls that are received are requests for the services of an exorcist,” said Fr Cesar Truqui, a priest and exorcist from Switzerland and a member of the Legionaries of Christ, a conservative Catholic order.

In the popular imagination, exorcisms evoke images of black-clad priests holding aloft silver crucifixes while trying to rid frothing, wild-eyed victims of Satanic possession.

The Church tries to play down the more lurid associations but at the same time insists that the Devil exists and must be fought on a daily basis.'


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:iseeeeeeee:
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Their invisible being is no more real than your invisible being. You're all nuts and not really fit to live in the modern world.
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True...
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Re: Decline of religion in the West has created a rise in black magic, Satanism and the occult
Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
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Religion is occult. Just magicians mad that people are doing other occult rituals instead of their own occult rituals.
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Re: Decline of religion in the West has created a rise in black magic, Satanism and the occult
Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


He let's them have there delusions...
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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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....says the priests...
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Pope: sexual abuse "like a Satanic Mass"

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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


He let's them have there delusions...
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Right. Romans 1:18-32 also explains a lot as well my friend.
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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
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A god that intentionally allows evil is not any sort of god I want to believe in.
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How about they meet to train to learn how to cast out the pedophiles from their own ranks?
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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
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He let's them have there delusions...
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speaking of delusions you might want to look in the mirror. you worship a guy who has been dead for over 2000 years and you still think he is going to rise from the dead. float down from the sky and save everyone and take them to a kingdom in the sky to live forever.
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Re: Decline of religion in the West has created a rise in black magic, Satanism and the occult
Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


A god that intentionally allows evil is not any sort of god I want to believe in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36760032


How about a God that allows free will?
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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


A god that intentionally allows evil is not any sort of god I want to believe in.
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Jehovah has made it clear several times that He has extreme patience but He is a jealous God. You love and follow His instructions and He will bless you and country. If you disobey Him and live in debauchery, He will allow you to be taught a lesson. The ancient Israelites are a prime example.

Another way you can realize this principle is if you are a parent that has children that have become adults. You love them so much, but if they are constantly rebellious and criminal, you have to let them make mistakes so they learn on their own.

Peace.
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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


A god that intentionally allows evil is not any sort of god I want to believe in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36760032


Jehovah has made it clear several times that He has extreme patience but He is a jealous God. You love and follow His instructions and He will bless you and country. If you disobey Him and live in debauchery, He will allow you to be taught a lesson. The ancient Israelites are a prime example.

Another way you can realize this principle is if you are a parent that has children that have become adults. You love them so much, but if they are constantly rebellious and criminal, you have to let them make mistakes so they learn on their own.

Peace.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


proof jehovah is a demon.
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no it hasn't
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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


Yep, then you get to find out just how much God was protecting you before you got all high and mighty and thought you knew better.
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Welcome to a post christian world.
Fear God and Dread Nought.
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"Yes, because we Catholic priest don't need any competition for raping children!" Anonymous Catholic Bishop
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the hand is changing within the house of God, not the church
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Don't worry when they find Satan neither answer their prayers
they will turn atheists ..


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You know what, I've heard about these Satanic sex cults and ritual sacrifice crap since I was a boy. When I was writing my first novel I spent a huge amount of time researching the occult, Wicca, and these so called 'secret' cults.

You know what I found most interesting, aside from the perverts caught in online stings, the vast majority of sex crimes are perpetrated by church folk of one flavor or another.

And the Catholic Church has covered up the LARGEST CHILD SEX SCANDAL in human history!

Bible thumping nut bars, you're as bad or worse than any atheist on the planet. Absolutist sociopaths!
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So don't witches and Satanists have a 1st Amendment right in the US to practice their religion?
Is the church planning to bring back stake burnings?
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if you did your research you would know the truth. more people know religion is bs. Religion has commited rapes and murders and war throughout history and now they are finding out the truth for themselves.

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Welcome to a post christian world.
 Quoting: CMcC


yep!
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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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The truth is that hasbara and wahabbi have teamed up for genocide.

Wait until the pokehead hears this.
Go to ground zero, it's a lift
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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


A god that intentionally allows evil is not any sort of god I want to believe in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36760032


Jehovah has made it clear several times that He has extreme patience but He is a jealous God. You love and follow His instructions and He will bless you and country. If you disobey Him and live in debauchery, He will allow you to be taught a lesson. The ancient Israelites are a prime example.

Another way you can realize this principle is if you are a parent that has children that have become adults. You love them so much, but if they are constantly rebellious and criminal, you have to let them make mistakes so they learn on their own.

Peace.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


'jehovah' is jealous ergo 'jehovah ' isn't god

god is not jealous
jealous implies 'lack of ' and how could that be god ?

it's not the lack of religion which allows evil to flourish
it's the lack of self-awareness and personal accountability = the rise of wilful ignorance

people are jealous , people are selfish , people are ignorant, people are cruel

god doesn't exist- or is very much obscurred in those people -but the essence of god exists in purity - and no low vibe purile distraction like jealousy can exist there

evil is created in a low vibrational earth bound state and remains there until transformed

evil is a choice

our choice and our responsibility
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Your right OP. Whenever adherence to Jehovah is intentionally neglected by a society of once religious peoples, I believe that God intentionally lets something evil fill the void.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


Yep, then you get to find out just how much God was protecting you before you got all high and mighty and thought you knew better.
 Quoting: BunBun


Well said.
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I find this amusing

why would people who don't believe
in god

then believe in the devil ??

for if you don't believe in one,
then you certainly can't believe
in the other

for Satan was created entirely
as a fictional character to make
you run to the church to be saved
by god

it's a means of control,
always have, always will

it's a concept stolen from Osiris
and Seth long before a hebrew ever
existed

why can't we as a society make it over
this cult hurdle ???

the manipulators won't go away quietly
for they have way too much to lose
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Welcome to a post christian world.
 Quoting: CMcC


yep!
 Quoting: christian


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