Fox News: Most employer-provided insurance will disappear as ObamaCare takes hold

It will be like the VA eventually, the doctors and hospitals all working for the government.

I am a part of any group plan. If the insurance company lobs me in with some internal group then that's their business. But either way, I am too paying my own way. Over the past twenty years I damn sure have paid more in premiums than we've taken out in reimbursements. Nice try, but fail.

Lmfao, you think the money paid into a group plan is spent solely on the members of said group plan? What are you on about?

You can tell yourself whatever you want to feel better, I guess. You're still participating in what is essentially a micro socialist system. And with good reason, we could never afford it otherwise in the current reality.

Lmfao, you think the money paid into a group plan is spent solely on the members of said group plan? What are you on about?

You can tell yourself whatever you want to feel better, I guess. You're still participating in what is essentially a micro socialist system. And with good reason, we could never afford it otherwise in the current reality.

Analysts predict most employer-provided insurance will disappear as ObamaCare takes hold

By Jim Angle
·Published May 31, 2014·
FoxNews.com

Across the political spectrum, analysts now say that 80 to 90 percent of employer-provided insurance, the mainstay of American health coverage for decades, will disappear as ObamaCare takes hold.

The research firm S&P IQ predicts less than 10 percent of those who get insurance at work will still get it there ten years from now.

"The companies will really be hard pressed to justify why they would continue to have to spend the kind of money they spend by offering insurance through corporate plans when there's an alternative that's subsidized by the government" said Michael Thompson, head of S&P IQ.

Even a former adviser to President Obama, Zeke Emanuel, predicted less than 20 percent who now get employer-provided insurance will still get it ten years from now. He wrote in his book "Reinventing American Health Care" that "By 2025 few private-sector employers will still be providing health insurance."

Emanuel told Fox News, “it's going to actually be better for people. They'll have more choice, most people who work for an employer and get their coverage through an employer do not have choice."

The reason analysts see this historic change in health coverage is because the tax penalty for not offering insurance -- $2,000 per worker-- is so much less than the cost of providing it.

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If by "the current reality" mean that in addition to 300 million Americans we have to cover 20,000,000 wetbacks whom aren't paying SHIT into the system (because it's their basic human right to receive all the free shit we can dole out to them), then yeah, I agree.

You're right of course. And this is different from an employer contribution health care plan how?

If the insurance company wants to do their internal bookkeeping that way, then that's up to them. But if your point is to praise what a wonderful system socialism is, then why are insurance companies demonized and why did 0bama have to fuck with a perfectly good socialist system?

I have no desire to pay for neo-natal and substance abuse coverage. Now, I'm paying for it. 0bamacare is damn sure a socialist system - stealing from some at the point of a gun and giving to others he deems fit to receive it.

It will be as bad as the VA system is now or worse. If 0bama is willing to treat our vets like that, what do you think he'll do to YOU?

You were paying for it before you fool, just like every other customer of your health insurance provider. Your premiums went up because of your provider latched onto the new requirements as an excuse to raise rates. They could have given you the new coverage at the same price, sheepishl especially since you aren't going to be using it, but knew that they could blame the new law that they wrote.

this was the intention from the beginning employers are loving it that is one thing to go next it is your vacation and 401

Without it we were all just fine? Are you fucking insane?

We're not great now, but we sure as hell were NOT all just fine before. People have been getting fucked by health care costs for decades.

They're already eyeing that 401k. The rational being that if you had enough to save you were making too much compared to the average citizen. The government giveth and taketh away.

Just wait until you get a note from your insurance company saying your plan is being cancelled. Then, you'll realize you were just fine before and now you're fucked.

Ah, I get it now. You're incapable of looking at it from the perspective of anyone besides yourself.

For someone who got cancer and quickly hit their "lifetime limit" and, assuming they survived the poison, are now in an inescapable amount of medical debt, you can bet your ass they're not just fine.

I don't know anyone like that personally, but I know of them, and I'm capable of seeing just how fucked they are and were by the health insurance you think was just fine.

Not going to take five years. It's happening now.

Not only will you will not have anymore employer sponsored health care, but you're probably not even going to have a doctor. My primary care physician sent me a letter yesterday saying that he's going private concierge. Not only is he going private but he said every other physician in the practice is going private there's about eight of them.

I can keep them if I want to pay $4000 a year out-of-pocket. He doesn't want to deal with Obamacare. In his letter he said Obamacare is the reason he's doing this.

We are losing our insurance and were losing our doctors.

Pretty simple remedy, dump your current Dr. and get a new one that accepts your coverage. Been doing that for 40 years because I pay for my own insurance, and if they don't want me and my insurance, I sure as hell don't want them.

Not that it's any of your business, but I've had cancer - three times. I did chemo, surgery, radiation - the whole 9 fucking yards. My plan suited me just fine. Then, it was cancelled because it didn't have neo-natal care and substance abuse or some such shit. Oh joy, now, not only are my premiums double, but the provider doesn't want to deal with the hospital and docs I was using. So don't give me any of your holier than thou, know it all, sanctimonious bullshit, OK?

Utter nonsense!

I choose my doc based on their skill and knowledge, not on which insurance provider accepts them.
What the fuck planet are you on, anyway?

Utter bullshit on you. If you have ever paid for your own insurance, and had a program called PPO or an HMO you would choose your doctor from a list of approved doctors that accept your companies insurance. What the hell planet have you been living on???????

Not going to take five years. It's happening now.

Not only will you will not have anymore employer sponsored health care, but you're probably not even going to have a doctor. My primary care physician sent me a letter yesterday saying that he's going private concierge. Not only is he going private but he said every other physician in the practice is going private there's about eight of them.

I can keep them if I want to pay $4000 a year out-of-pocket. He doesn't want to deal with Obamacare. In his letter he said Obamacare is the reason he's doing this.

We are losing our insurance and were losing our doctors.

thereis something going on

Corporate Society is screaming to get out from under the health insurance. Something big and bad is coming.

Of course.

I've spent my whole life paying into the system and requiring nothing of that system.

Now, when I get older and finally need this system, it will fail me right off of the bat.

Much like the social security system I've spent my life paying into.

Fuck this government.