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Krishnamurti dissolved the Star of the East, the Theosophical organization which was intended to proclaim him the reincarnation of Christ

 
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Krishnamurti dissolved the Star of the East, the Theosophical organization which was intended to proclaim him the reincarnation of Christ
When Annie Besant and Charles Ledbeater made known that they intended to proclaim the boy Krishnamurti the reincaration of Christ, Rudolf Steiner (who was then General Secretary of the German division of the Theosophical movement) refused to accept this as being erroneous. Out of this came a serious falling-out between him and the international Theosophy leadership which resulted in him leaving the movement and creating Anthroposophy.

An organization was created by the leading Theosophists called "Order of the Star of the East" intending to promote the idea of Krishnamurti's role as World Teacher and which started to put out slanderous lies about Steiner. Out of this came a serious falling-out between him and the international Theosophy leadership which resulted in him leaving the movement and creating Anthroposophy.

In 1929 Krishnamurti himself dissolved the Order of the Star of the East. He announced his decision in this lecture.

"Out of this came a serious falling-out between him and the international Theosophy leadership which resulted in him leaving the movement and creating Anthroposophy.

"I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or to coerce people along any particular path. If you first understand that, then you will see how impossible it is to organize a belief. A belief is purely an individual matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes dead, crystallized; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on others. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do. Truth is narrowed down and made a plaything for those who are weak, for those who are only momentarily discontented. Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it. You cannot bring the mountain-top to the valley. If you would attain to the mountain-top you must pass through the valley, climb the steeps, unafraid of the dangerous precipices. You must climb towards the Truth, it cannot be "stepped down" or organized for you. Interest in ideas is mainly sustained by organizations, but organizations only awaken interest from without. Interest, which is not born out of love of Truth for its own sake, but aroused by an organization, is of no value. The organization becomes a framework into which its members can conveniently fit. They no longer strive after Truth or the mountain-top, but rather carve for themselves a convenient niche in which they put themselves, or let the organization place them, and consider that the organization will thereby lead them to Truth.

So that is the first reason, from my point of view, why the Order of the Star should be dissolved. In spite of this, you will probably form other Orders, you will continue to belong to other organizations searching for Truth. I do not want to belong to any organization of a spiritual kind, please understand this. I would make use of an organization which would take me to London, for example; this is quite a different kind of organization, merely mechanical, like the post or the telegraph. I would use a motor car or a steamship to travel, these are only physical mechanisms which have nothing whatever to do with spirituality. Again, I maintain that no organization can lead man to spirituality.

If an organization be created for this purpose, it becomes a crutch, a weakness, a bondage, and must cripple the individual, and prevent him from growing, from establishing his uniqueness, which lies in the discovery for himself of that absolute, unconditioned Truth. So that is another reason why I have decided, as I happen to be the Head of the Order, to dissolve it. No one has persuaded me to this decision."

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Sectarian propaganda.
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Re: Krishnamurti dissolved the Star of the East, the Theosophical organization which was intended to proclaim him the reincarnation of Christ
"For eighteen years you have been preparing for this event, for the Coming of the World-Teacher. For eighteen years you have organized, you have looked for someone who would give a new delight to your hearts and minds, who would transform your whole life, who would give you a new understanding; for someone who would raise you to a new plane of life, who would give you a new encouragement, who would set you free-and now look what is happening! Consider, reason with yourselves, and discover in what way that belief has made you different-not with the superficial difference of the wearing of a badge, which is trivial, absurd. In what manner has such a belief swept away all the unessential things of life? That is the only way to judge: in what way are you freer, greater, more dangerous to every Society which is based on the false and the unessential? In what way have the members of this organization of the Star become different?

As I said, you have been preparing for eighteen years for me. I do not care if you believe that I am the World-Teacher or not. That is of very little importance. Since you belong to the organization of the Order of the Star, you have given your sympathy, your energy, acknowledging that Krishnamurti is the World-Teacher- partially or wholly: wholly for those who are really seeking, only partially for those who are satisfied with their own half-truths.


You have been preparing for eighteen years, and look how many difficulties there are in the way of your understanding, how many complications, how many trivial things. Your prejudices, your fears, your authorities, your churches new and old - all these, I maintain, are a barrier to understanding. I cannot make myself clearer than this. I do not want you to agree with me, I do not want you to follow me, I want you to understand what I am saying."

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I+m interested, but now I don+t see the point why you post this.
So whom are you quoting?

Would it be possible for you to create some white lines in between big logs of text?
Thnx
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I+m interested, but now I don+t see the point why you post this.
So whom are you quoting?

Would it be possible for you to create some white lines in between big logs of text?
Thnx
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then do your own research.. this man was an incredible teacher of truth....
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I+m interested, but now I don+t see the point why you post this.
So whom are you quoting?

Would it be possible for you to create some white lines in between big logs of text?
Thnx
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then do your own research.. this man was an incredible teacher of truth....
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Re: Krishnamurti dissolved the Star of the East, the Theosophical organization which was intended to proclaim him the reincarnation of Christ
I+m interested, but now I don+t see the point why you post this.
So whom are you quoting?

Would it be possible for you to create some white lines in between big logs of text?
Thnx
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if he doesn't speak english as a primary language, i see his point.





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