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Russia Turns off Data from IGS GPS Tracking Stations

 
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what does this mean? is this a prelude to war?
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It's another step closer.
They are "battening down the hatches" if you will.
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[link to in.rbth.com]

FROM ARTICLE:

According to the ICAO, the loss of GPS and GPWS signals (which warn pilots that planes are dangerously close to the ground or gaining dangerously high) increases the pilot’s workload, forcing him to check with other air navigation systems, as well as increasing the psychological burden on the crew.

Rogozin declared that Russia may halt shipments of NK-33 and RD-180 missile engines, which are an important component in the American space program, if they are used for military purposes.

The contract between United Launch Alliance and the Russian-American company RD-Amros, presupposed the delivery to the U.S. over the course of several years of 36 RD-180 rocket engines for Atlas 5 missile carriers, which have been used to launch commercial satellites and U.S. Air Force satellites since 2002.
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y cant we all fust get along, cast aside religion, land boundries and politics and primarily people of the world would get along fine together to share are wealth of knowledge and wisdoms together while wiping out hunger, poverty and sickness .....welll I gues we gotta wait till death before any of that happens since we all end up at the same frequency of life again and they as in all before figured out life is to live and explore.
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y cant we all fust get along, cast aside religion, land boundries and politics and primarily people of the world would get along fine together to share are wealth of knowledge and wisdoms together while wiping out hunger, poverty and sickness .....welll I gues we gotta wait till death before any of that happens since we all end up at the same frequency of life again and they as in all before figured out life is to live and explore.
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cause Satan is still here on Earth. We have to wait.
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Supposing this, a theory:

Russia has encrypted their GPS system for military use.

An enemy knowing their GPS can use it to coordinate interception. If the missile is guided by X signal, then use X signal to help calculate it's position.

Increase accuracy of counter measures.
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We should put Putin and Obama in a ring and let them duke it out.
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agreed
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Be the biggest pay per view event in history. LOL
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We should put Putin and Obama in a ring and let them duke it out.
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agreed
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that fag obama would try to bum him
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Putin is acting like a spoiled child that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he only hurts his own country by doing this and further isolates his nation from the world.
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there was a news in russian media that USA does not allow to put GLONASS stations on its territory. After that Russian DOD decided to ban GPS stations in Russia. Both GPS and GLONASS are being used by militaries in their countries.
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If they are being banned then they have replacement technologies under new names and new secrets.
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We should put Putin and Obama in a ring and let them duke it out.
 Quoting: HollyWho


agreed
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that fag obama would try to bum him
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this one is longer

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And this means what???
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hide and seek
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MH370 flies under the radar
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Putin is acting like a spoiled child that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he only hurts his own country by doing this and further isolates his nation from the world.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


No one has hurt a Nation more then the worthless POS Barry Soetoro aka Barak HUSSEIN Obama
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never read anything about but probably gps as glonass and even the EU project can switch to serve only military use in war scenario


Did they ever jammed gps/glonass on war zone before?
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GPS isn't that hard to jam/disrupt. It's radio signals just like anything else. I remember when learning about it that things such as clouds, buildings, thick foilage, a few inches of dirt, and so on could disrupt the signal.

And if no one has developed a method to block the signal yet then...someone has REALLY dropped the ball. Most likely it isn't an advertised capability, but I'm sure someone has it.
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We should put Putin and Obama in a ring and let them duke it out.
 Quoting: HollyWho


agreed
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Putin slams the sickly American like a black belt judoka tosses a baby. /fight
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Putin is acting like a spoiled child that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he only hurts his own country by doing this and further isolates his nation from the world.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


No one has hurt a Nation more then the worthless POS Barry Soetoro aka Barak HUSSEIN Obama
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313288


I believe i said that in a previous post ..that BOTH countries leaders are acting like children and they BOTH need to knock it the hell off.
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We should put Putin and Obama in a ring and let them duke it out.
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agreed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


that fag obama would try to bum him
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


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We should put Putin and Obama in a ring and let them duke it out.
 Quoting: HollyWho


agreed
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And sell tickets to benefit Wounded Warriors. On both sides.
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We should put Putin and Obama in a ring and let them duke it out.
 Quoting: HollyWho


agreed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


And sell tickets to benefit Wounded Warriors. On both sides.
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Perfect solution
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Jesus H. Titty Fucking Christ... calm down.

Oh, no.

5 and a pin suggest
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


what does this mean? is this a prelude to war?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


It is believed that the Russian move is a tit-for-tat exercise in response to sanctions by western countries following recent events in Ukraine. However, the Russians say that the action was initiated by the refusal of the U.S. to enter into negotiations on the placement of Russian-operated GLONASS tracking stations on U.S. territory. Russia wishes to expand its global network of differential correction and monitoring stations, which could conceivably be also used to supply data for GLONASS command and control purposes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


So it is all pointed to a conflict in the works?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


[link to gpsworld.com]

Russia Turns off Data from IGS GPS Tracking Stations

“In accordance with the instructions of the Government of the Russian Federation, the Russian Space Agency in conjunction with the Federal Agency scientific organizations on June 1, 2014, implemented measures to avoid the use of information from the global seismographic network stations operating on the signals of the GPS system and located in the Russian Federation, for purposes not covered by existing agreements, including military uses.” (As translated by Google Translate.)
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OP, could you go to my thread and explain this to the thread?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman




Russia this is very important development. You reported first. I have researched it, and you are so right.

And it is a sign of declining Russia USA relations.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


[link to www.nytimes.com]

Here you go, Russia!

FROM ARTICLE:

MOSCOW — The deputy prime minister in charge of Russia’s space programs said Sunday that he had started to impose restrictions on Global Positioning System base stations here, as retribution for the refusal of the United States to allow similar base stations on American territory that would improve the accuracy of Russia’s navigation system.

The restrictions will not cause any disruption in the operation of GPS, as the American satellite navigation system is more commonly known. Still, they are a sign of how deeply soured relations have become between the United States and Russia in the months since the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea, and other long-simmering disputes, including Russia’s granting of asylum to Edward J. Snowden, the fugitive national security contractor.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Russia, I am going to pin this for you, as I am afraid this will be lost.

I have it linked to my thread, but you broke this first!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


pinned!hf
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


pinned!hf
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


thx
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


You are so welcome, Russia.hf
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Not entirely sure of the significance of this.

Shutting down the data stream will be significant if WWIII really swings into gear. Consider for a moment how many people are dependent on machines communicating to complete a commercial transaction.
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True!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


shill
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Jesus H. Titty Fucking Christ... calm down.

Oh, no.

5 and a pin suggest
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


what does this mean? is this a prelude to war?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


It is believed that the Russian move is a tit-for-tat exercise in response to sanctions by western countries following recent events in Ukraine. However, the Russians say that the action was initiated by the refusal of the U.S. to enter into negotiations on the placement of Russian-operated GLONASS tracking stations on U.S. territory. Russia wishes to expand its global network of differential correction and monitoring stations, which could conceivably be also used to supply data for GLONASS command and control purposes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


So it is all pointed to a conflict in the works?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


[link to gpsworld.com]

Russia Turns off Data from IGS GPS Tracking Stations

“In accordance with the instructions of the Government of the Russian Federation, the Russian Space Agency in conjunction with the Federal Agency scientific organizations on June 1, 2014, implemented measures to avoid the use of information from the global seismographic network stations operating on the signals of the GPS system and located in the Russian Federation, for purposes not covered by existing agreements, including military uses.” (As translated by Google Translate.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


OP, could you go to my thread and explain this to the thread?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman




Russia this is very important development. You reported first. I have researched it, and you are so right.

And it is a sign of declining Russia USA relations.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


[link to www.nytimes.com]

Here you go, Russia!

FROM ARTICLE:

MOSCOW — The deputy prime minister in charge of Russia’s space programs said Sunday that he had started to impose restrictions on Global Positioning System base stations here, as retribution for the refusal of the United States to allow similar base stations on American territory that would improve the accuracy of Russia’s navigation system.

The restrictions will not cause any disruption in the operation of GPS, as the American satellite navigation system is more commonly known. Still, they are a sign of how deeply soured relations have become between the United States and Russia in the months since the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea, and other long-simmering disputes, including Russia’s granting of asylum to Edward J. Snowden, the fugitive national security contractor.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Russia, I am going to pin this for you, as I am afraid this will be lost.

I have it linked to my thread, but you broke this first!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


pinned!hf
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


pinned!hf
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


thx
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


You are so welcome, Russia.hf
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Not entirely sure of the significance of this.

Shutting down the data stream will be significant if WWIII really swings into gear. Consider for a moment how many people are dependent on machines communicating to complete a commercial transaction.
 Quoting: Hardwired


True!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


shill
 Quoting: 5190


You would never make it as a news reporter, would you?

You follow a story until you are satisfied as to the conclusion of that story.

You cannot be lazy, or you will lose the story.

People come here for the story.

Right? Right!
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shill
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You would never make it as a news reporter, would you?

You follow a story until you are satisfied as to the conclusion of that story.

You cannot be lazy, or you will lose the story.

People come here for the story.

Right? Right!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


shill

You- need to reevaluate what it is you're doing here. Think long and hard, and don't lie to yourself. If you still think you should be here doing what you're doing... then go right ahead.. but don't think for a SECOND that we don't see what you're doing.

You're not going to win this war. There are those among us who will fight you to the death and WE WILL NOT FAIL.
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Re: Russia Turns off Data from IGS GPS Tracking Stations
what does this mean? is this a prelude to war?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


It's another step closer.
They are "battening down the hatches" if you will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58828434


No. Just a sign of the end of the unipolar US leadership, which has brought out the worst in our country. We should welcome a strong Russia, who perhaps would force us to bring labor Back to America eventually.
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Re: Russia Turns off Data from IGS GPS Tracking Stations
Putin is acting like a spoiled child that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he only hurts his own country by doing this and further isolates his nation from the world.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


there was a news in russian media that USA does not allow to put GLONASS stations on its territory. After that Russian DOD decided to ban GPS stations in Russia. Both GPS and GLONASS are being used by militaries in their countries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


this is all stupid both countries are acting insane or rather it's bad leadership
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What does it mean...........

Perhaps North Korea is going to have another "TEST"
Bring it on
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shill
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You would never make it as a news reporter, would you?

You follow a story until you are satisfied as to the conclusion of that story.

You cannot be lazy, or you will lose the story.

People come here for the story.

Right? Right!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


shill

You- need to reevaluate what it is you're doing here. Think long and hard, and don't lie to yourself. If you still think you should be here doing what you're doing... then go right ahead.. but don't think for a SECOND that we don't see what you're doing.

You're not going to win this war. There are those among us who will fight you to the death and WE WILL NOT FAIL.
 Quoting: 5190


Wow, that sounds like a threat...maybe a red karma or two?
scared
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we got to get that inposter out of there ,hes trying now to start world war 3
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we got to get that inposter out of there ,hes trying now to start world war 3
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that's right ... Obama is making independent decisions from the puppet masters who placed him where he is ...


same for Putin, because he's not a puppet either


/sarcasm

you'd be better off trying to understand WHY this info is put out there and what the end result is that they are looking for


ignore the chessboard, we pawns have no power in their game
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Putin is acting like a spoiled child that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he only hurts his own country by doing this and further isolates his nation from the world.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


there was a news in russian media that USA does not allow to put GLONASS stations on its territory. After that Russian DOD decided to ban GPS stations in Russia. Both GPS and GLONASS are being used by militaries in their countries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58827049


In my opinion it is still childish..on both countries parts..when will our leaders grow up and stop acting like children..tit for tat just doesn't get it anymore..they need to be more responsible not only for the well being of their citizens but start taking into consideration their actions on the rest of the world.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


Russia this is very important development. You reported first. I have researched it, and you are so right.

And it is a sign of declining Russia USA relations.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Russia is NOT allowing the NWO to win, them and a whole other bunch of folks.
 Quoting: Abinadi


I agree with your analysis.
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you know those terrorists Obama traded 5 for 1?

they have like 100 GPS implants each.

guess where they are now, being back briefed?
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you know those terrorists Obama traded 5 for 1?

they have like 100 GPS implants each.

guess where they are now, being back briefed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34653304


When those guys walk into their old lairs after the data is collected, the conversations snooped, ~ it'll be

"whats that noise outside?

"Ackmed ~ they followed you. there are 500 drones outside all about to unload on us"
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Re: Russia Turns off Data from IGS GPS Tracking Stations
Not entirely sure of the significance of this.

Shutting down the data stream will be significant if WWIII really swings into gear. Consider for a moment how many people are dependent on machines communicating to complete a commercial transaction.
 Quoting: Hardwired


Both the US and Russia have their own GPS sat networks, with other ground stations providing additional location.

It seems we have equipment on their territory used in our GPS system, but we refuse to allow them to install GLONASS equipment on US soil.

Can't really say as I blame them, especially after all of the US's limp-wristed pointless efforts at making Russia feel bad about standing up for the integrity of thier borders and taking steps to ensure the ongoing security of same.

Under normal conditions, I believe the signals from either system are free to use by anyone who has the ability to receive them, but under extenuating circumstances like a war, the signal can be encrypted, making the whole thing essentially a military-only asset.





GLP