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This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!

 
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This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!
June 30, 2006, 7:15AM
Central Texas woman run off road, raped

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GROESBECK, Texas — A Central Texas woman was recuperating at a Temple hospital after she reported being run off a rural road, kidnapped and then raped and beaten by her abductors, authorities said.

The 18-year-old woman was in stable condition Thursday following surgery. She had walked and crawled a half-mile to find help after her abductors left her for dead along a highway early Wednesday morning, authorities said.

"She spent more than two hours in hell," Limestone County Sheriff Dennis Wilson said.

Wilson said Javier Guzman Martinez, 17, and Noel Darwin Hernandez, 22, both of Mexia, had been arrested for the crime and were charged Thursday with aggravated assault and aggravated kidnapping.

The suspects began following the woman late Tuesday night as she left Mexia, about 40 miles east of Waco, where she was visiting friends, authorities said. The suspects did not know the woman.

The woman told investigators she was driving at about 2:30 a.m. Wednesday on a state highway toward her home in a Limestone County town when a car rammed her sport utility vehicle and forced her off the road, Wilson said.

The woman told investigators that the men forced her into their car, and then drove around rural county roads while they sexually assaulted, stabbed and beat her, Wilson said.

The woman said the men left her about a mile south of Coolidge in a ditch, where she pretended to be dead until they left, Wilson said. She then found help at a nearby trailer.

Dena Lincoln said the woman, covered in blood, came to her trailer door at about 4:30 a.m.

"I will never, as long as I live, get that look that was on her face out of my mind," Lincoln said. "She kept saying, 'I'm going to die. I'm going to die.' I told her, 'No, honey, you are going to be all right. We are going to get you some help.'"

The woman was flown by helicopter to a Temple hospital with numerous cuts and stab wounds, including an injury that endangered one eye, Wilson said.

Wilson said investigators canvassed the area on Wednesday with the description of the suspects given by the women.

Officers found Martinez at his Mexia residence. Wilson said he confessed to the incident and told officers of Hernandez's involvement. U.S. Marshall's tracked Hernandez to a Waco bus station, where he was arrested Wednesday night.

Martinez was being held in the Limestone County Jail while Hernandez was to be transferred to Limestone County from McLennan County, officials said. Wilson said both men are apparently in the United States illegally and will be held without bond on immigration charges. Hernandez is from Honduras, and Martinez is from Mexico, Wilson said
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Re: This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!
It's not just happening in Texas. In Green Bay WI a year or so ago, two mexicans abducted a woman right off the street, at random. They drove her out of town into the farmlands, beat her, raped her repeatedly, then poured gasoline on her and set her on fire. They laughed as she burned! Like this woman, she managed to crawl to a farmhouse for help. The mexican community HID THESE SAVAGES but the police eventually caught up with them. The woman is scarred for life physically, and she said on the news that she could deal with that, just can't get the sound of their evil laughter out of her head as they watched her burning.

We have no need for Mexico's criminals to make our country their crime playground.

We have to have background checks in place to keep these people out. Mexico should deal with it's own criminals. Not let them stroll on over here to torture, maim and murder our population.

We can't make people behave. But we can deny them entry.
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"Wilson said both men are apparently in the United States illegally and will be held without bond on immigration charges. Hernandez is from Honduras, and Martinez is from Mexico, Wilson said"

The only punishment these scum will probably get is deportation. They ought to be executed.
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Are you sure they were Mexicans? Sounds more like the behaviour of the noble American GI.
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Don't blame this behavior on Mexicans.

There are plenty of good Mexican Americans in the country and a lot of them serving in IRaq.

Besides, this type of behavior was typical during slavery and segregation in this country. Whites terrorized blacks in the same manner as a form of blood sport.
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[link to www.valleystar.com]


Police search for rape suspect

Illegal immigrant accused of impregnating 10-year-old girl



By JAMES OSBORNE



The Monitor
PHARR - Police said they are searching for a 21-year-old illegal immigrant accused of raping a 10-year-old family member and leaving her pregnant.

Authorities were alerted to the case by a local doctor, who discovered the girl's pregnancy during a routine medical exam last Friday, Pharr police Lt. Guadalupe Salinas said.

The girl was subsequently taken to the Children's Advocacy Center in Edinburg where she told staff that her 21-year-old relative, Pedro Guzman Muñoz, had raped her, police said. It is the Valley Morning Star's policy to not identify victims of sexual assault, or their exact relationship to the suspect if the relationship can be used to identify the victim.

"We assume (the abuse had) been going on for some time," Salinas said. "We don't know for sure, but at least six months."


The girl is three-months pregnant and remains in her parents' home.

Child Protective Services social workers are investigating the home to determine whether the parents knew their daughter was being raped, authorities said. However, Salinas said there was no indication the parents were aware of the sexual assault before the doctor's examination.

Police continued to search for Guzman on Thursday but said they did not have any leads on his whereabouts.

"We think he went back to Mexico because he's an undocumented immigrant, but we don't know," Salinas said.









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Re: This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!
The U.S. has produced at least 2000 serial killers since 1980. The true numbers aren't available because many of these men are tried for only one murder. The vast majority are WHITE MEN. So to put a stop to this, all white men need to be deported immediately. Most have killed at least one woman, namely their wives.
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Re: This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!
I RECALL TWO INCIDENTS IN WHICH NATIVE AMERICAN CHILDREN 12 AND 8 RESPETIVLY WERE TAKEN AND RAPED BY IMMIGRANT ILLEGAL EUROPEAN DESCENDENTS.BUT THE LEGAL SYSTEM LET THEM OFF BECAUSE THEY HAD JOBS AND IT WAS THEIR FIRST FOR RAPE.THEN THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ENFORCE THE STATE IDEOLOGY TOOK THREE MEN OUT TO THE COUNTRY SIDE IN -40 DEGREES AND LET THEM FREEZE TO DEATH.THESE ILLEGAL EUROPEAN DESCENDENTS GET AWAY WITH MURDER/RAPE/EVERY TYPE OF CRIME THEN CRY THE BLUES WHEN THIS SHIT IS OCCURING TO THEM.I DO NOT CONDONE THE ACTIONS OF THESE MEN BUT REALITY IS THEY ARE MORE LEGAL THAN YOU ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OF EUROPE.
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Re: This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!
Mexicans with a criminal record should not be allowed into the USA. I can't believe that some people here are saying so what because there's already killers in the USA so why not let in more. What the fuck are you thinking? The honest gentle law-abiding Mexican will have nothing to fear from a background check. And surely they'd rather be here knowing there are less criminals rather than more.

If the illegal Mexicans residing in the USA are serious about being part of things they would be wise to cease harboring the criminals among them and get with the program to make the USA a better place, not a worse place. The way too many of them view America is a big free for all where they can take what they want and harm who they wish. Until this too-common attitude is addressed there will not be the mass support they wish for from Americans.
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Re: This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!
The U.S. has produced at least 2000 serial killers since 1980. The true numbers aren't available because many of these men are tried for only one murder. The vast majority are WHITE MEN. So to put a stop to this, all white men need to be deported immediately. Most have killed at least one woman, namely their wives.
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So if white men are serial killers that means we are supposed to import more rapists? I'm not sure what bearing this post has on the discussion.
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112222 's post makes no sense at all none..
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"Besides, this type of behavior was typical during slavery and segregation in this country. Whites terrorized blacks in the same manner as a form of blood sport."

Thanks for explaining that this is acceptable behavior now because of what was done in the past.

I agree with the above poster who wrote that Mexicans should stop harboring these illegals. When it comes down to it, it may be illegals harboring new border crossers. Need Raid to get rid of these cockroaches.
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G.W. Bush, the nation's top serial killer, says the illegals are welcome to stay.
I do not agree with this policy, but to scapegoat them all based on two murders is insane. White American men are the ultimate killers. They are trained from infancy to kill. If they don't join the military, they typically prey on American women.
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Besides, this type of behavior was typical during slavery and segregation in this country. Whites terrorized blacks in the same manner as a form of blood sport.


So two wrongs make a right? You fucking idiot. You're making excuses for these barbarians because some other race 200 years ago were mistreated by equal barbarians.

Fuck you you despicable piece of festering slimy dogshit.
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"If they don't join the military, they typically prey on American women."

If they join the military, they typically prey on Iraqi women or their fellow females in combat. This goes for the illegals who sign up as well. There is no sense of decency among these birds of prey no matter the color.
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All men these days are becomng more and more evil. They seem easily swayed by the Beast.

I'm sick of women being victimized by this menace of garbage spreading filth.
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what happened to innocent till proven guilty or does that only apply to whites?

lmao
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Some of the posters suggest that this is just one example of a supposedly large number of similiar crimes historically committed by whites against blacks.

Where is the connection? Is it ok this crime happened today because the victim is white?

Don't defend these men because they are Hispanic, because it looks like you are approving crimes like this one against all whites.
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111680....UP YOURS, with a MEATHOOK...
SIDEWAYS !!
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Don't blame this behavior on Mexicans.

There are plenty of good Mexican Americans in the country and a lot of them serving in IRaq.

Besides, this type of behavior was typical during slavery and segregation in this country. Whites terrorized blacks in the same manner as a form of blood sport.
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Are you looking for excuse?
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the illegal situation is coming to a boiling point, whether the government acknowledges it or not
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Don't blame this behavior on Mexicans.

There are plenty of good Mexican Americans in the country and a lot of them serving in IRaq.

Besides, this type of behavior was typical during slavery and segregation in this country. Whites terrorized blacks in the same manner as a form of blood sport.
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Oh, my white bad! You're right! This makes it ok, then!

Yes, white women deserve this treatment, we are evil.

FUCK YOU YOU MORON. GO AND WALLOW WITH YOUR SHIT BROTHERS!
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Listen i don't care what nationality u are.......if your azz is illeagal then your OUT!!!!!!!!!.....we got enough crazies running around reeking havoc!!...got nothing to do with race,religion or any of that BULLSH*T!
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what happened to innocent till proven guilty or does that only apply to whites?

lmao
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no
it doesn't apply to whites anymore either
especially if they are white military
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111680, 112222, and 112233 are the:

BIGGEST ASSHOLES OF ALL TIME

GO TO HELL, YOU SATANIC PIGS !!!!
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Rape exist everywhere...white men rape, black men rape, asian men rape, latin men rape etc etc etc...

Some of you are using this issue to further demonize Mexicans.

This has to do with violence and ignorance. Violence that has been committed against women & children for thousands of years due in large part to religious and cultural teachings throught the globe. Religions and institutions that believe woman are lower than men, they are too be used, and this is there punishment for there crimes of being born a woman.

Those of you that are villainizing the mexicans I urge you to study histories of violence...this is accross the board people... and yes it needs to be stopped. But hurting one group of people only continues the spread of hatred and violence.
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Even young men who've grown up in the US - many of them were raised in single parent homes. Father walked out and no support or contact with the kids or their mother for 18 plus years. Many of these young men do not have any male role model. Decency? Being a man? These young men have had no one to teach him other than what they picked up on TV.

Their idea is to screw women, impregnate if they can, and never even feel responsible for their own child that's growing in someone else. Like father like son I guess.

Of course many of these young men are from under class and non-white backgrounds. What little they learn about manhood is learned on the streets and/or from their peers who are equally lost and struggling to find their own way to adulthood.

We know two young men who are from typical single mom families. Both grew up sans any decent adult male around. Mom struggled to keep them fed, clothed and in school. Both these guys are now in their mid twenties - making plenty of money with a business they own - and both see women as something less than human. To hear of their exploits and their nights with various 'sluts' and 'bitches' that they fuck and leave by dawn is appalling even to another male. Heaven knows I have had my share of one night stands but there was a bit of hope somewhere in my soul that along the way I would meet "the one" that I would want to spend my life with and have a family with. These young men seem to have no desire to have a family, a relationship, or children. NONE! Not even in the back of their minds somewhere, as is the norm for younger guys.

This scenario is repeated over and over again among these immigrant families. Most of the young girls are pregnant by the age of 16 and so begins the cycle again. Abortion and birth control are both not allowed by their catholic religion - and most of them take both edicts of the church seriously.

How these men turn into nothing other than animals is something I do not understand and never will be able to comprehend. They seem to have no respect or even feelings of normal male tenderness toward women. Even in their talk of sex, it's not loving and tender or gentle. It's conquest and violence and near rape - albeit we assume with a willing partner. Somehow they are acting out feelings of rage in their bed and I cannot figure out whom they're angry at.

Bottom line is that men need male parents or parent like figures to teach them values, and morals and ethics. They need to be loved and have their manhood and their masculinity validated and affirmed by another adult male in order to grow into adulthood and become decent and honorable men. When that vital component is missing (as it so often is) they embrace a form of masculinity that is totally the basest and most brutal side of maleness. That seems to be all they know and most of it is picked up from the TV supplied role models from James Bond to the latest Rap singers.

As for not letting men with a criminal record into the US - most of these guys do not have a criminal record in their own countries. Most have gotten away with this kind of behavior there and so there's no "list' against which to screen them. The law enforcement in these third world countries is so awful that they can do these horrible things with relative impunity there and be assured they won't get caught.

Another thing I've noticed is that when these young Mexican men come into the US, they usually hate and resent anyone who was born here. They themselves usually come from unimaginable poverty and they look at your average US Teenager with a car, a cell phone, and mom and dad's credit cards and they simply hate them out of sheer jealously. If those kids happen to be fair skinned and blue eyed, they seem to resent and hate them even more. Their hatred can occasionally boil over into psychotic behavior, so it seems.

I don't know what the solution is or may be. I don't know if we want these young men allowed into the US given the baggage many of them bring with themselves. But then again, it is not true for all of them. We read about the hideous acts of the very worst. Certainly not every illegal immigrant acts this way. Many just want to work and build a better life for themselves here. And of course that's often what brought our grandparents or great grandparents to this country, as well.
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AC 96225, well-written! Perhaps the only solution to this epidemic of rape is to mete out the sentence of death to these animals. Back in the 50s the death sentence kept the murder rate down. With its removal, murder has increased exponentially. Soft sentences for rape has seen that crime increase as well.

We need to get these perverts off the streets of our villages, towns, and cities. No woman or child will be safe until we do. If law enforcement won't do it, then....
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96225 gives us a perfect example of WHY this problem will continue to worsen and why innocent American citizens will continue to be victimized by the scum that comes creeping from south of ze border.

It is attitudes like 96225 that will kill this nation. Hope you're happy in the killing of your nation, you swine.
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Re: This is what the "illegal" situation is like in Texas.. girls stalked, raped, beaten left for dead.. it is time to get rid of em all!!!!
"Some of you are using this issue to further demonize Mexicans."



Bullshit. Utter bullshit.

The fact is that many in the Mexican community in the USA harbor their criminals among them.

They could put a stop to the robberies and the gang-banging and the rapes and murders and drug dealing but they do not.

It flowers because they water it.

If the good Mexicans with consciences got together and started turning these violent antisocial types in for prosecution we would have a better nation for everybody.

Get your shit in one sock, people. The prejudice exists because of your own behaviors.

Don't think there isn't massive resentment when people see their hometowns rotting from within when the mexicans take over a formerly nice clean neighborhood and trash it like some junkyard. But, too many in the Mexican community tolerate this too. Kid has a shit diaper? Throw it out on somebody's lawn, so what. Have refuse? So what, leave it rust in the yard. And the people walking by are targets for the verbal sexual abuse of many Mexican men, so what. Why not scare your neighbors, so what.

The sense of entitlement is dumbfounding.

People are willing to help and assist but not at the expense of their safety, not at the expense of the ruination of their cities, not so they can be robbed, have guns held to their heads, not to be sexually assaulted.

Mexican crime in the USA is a HUGE PROBLEM! We pay for it with our tax dollars and some pay with their lives.

I challenge the Mexican community, both legal and illegal, to address this AND solve this. The worst among you are ruining it for the best among you. You must oust your predators from our midst for the good of everybody.
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umm

isnt it men that rape women,by your logic maybe we should exile all the men in the world to mexico and it can be like a big homo prison

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