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Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming

 
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Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
EARTH IN THE BALANCE

Don't Believe the Hype
Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming.

BY RICHARD S. LINDZEN
Sunday, July 2, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

According to Al Gore's new film "An Inconvenient Truth," we're in for "a planetary emergency": melting ice sheets, huge increases in sea levels, more and stronger hurricanes, and invasions of tropical disease, among other cataclysms--unless we change the way we live now.

Bill Clinton has become the latest evangelist for Mr. Gore's gospel, proclaiming that current weather events show that he and Mr. Gore were right about global warming, and we are all suffering the consequences of President Bush's obtuseness on the matter. And why not? Mr. Gore assures us that "the debate in the scientific community is over."

That statement, which Mr. Gore made in an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC, ought to have been followed by an asterisk. What exactly is this debate that Mr. Gore is referring to? Is there really a scientific community that is debating all these issues and then somehow agreeing in unison? Far from such a thing being over, it has never been clear to me what this "debate" actually is in the first place.

The media rarely help, of course. When Newsweek featured global warming in a 1988 issue, it was claimed that all scientists agreed. Periodically thereafter it was revealed that although there had been lingering doubts beforehand, now all scientists did indeed agree. Even Mr. Gore qualified his statement on ABC only a few minutes after he made it, clarifying things in an important way. When Mr. Stephanopoulos confronted Mr. Gore with the fact that the best estimates of rising sea levels are far less dire than he suggests in his movie, Mr. Gore defended his claims by noting that scientists "don't have any models that give them a high level of confidence" one way or the other and went on to claim--in his defense--that scientists "don't know. . . . They just don't know."

So, presumably, those scientists do not belong to the "consensus." Yet their research is forced, whether the evidence supports it or not, into Mr. Gore's preferred global-warming template--namely, shrill alarmism. To believe it requires that one ignore the truly inconvenient facts. To take the issue of rising sea levels, these include: that the Arctic was as warm or warmer in 1940; that icebergs have been known since time immemorial; that the evidence so far suggests that the Greenland ice sheet is actually growing on average. A likely result of all this is increased pressure pushing ice off the coastal perimeter of that country, which is depicted so ominously in Mr. Gore's movie. In the absence of factual context, these images are perhaps dire or alarming.

They are less so otherwise. Alpine glaciers have been retreating since the early 19th century, and were advancing for several centuries before that. Since about 1970, many of the glaciers have stopped retreating and some are now advancing again. And, frankly, we don't know why.

The other elements of the global-warming scare scenario are predicated on similar oversights. Malaria, claimed as a byproduct of warming, was once common in Michigan and Siberia and remains common in Siberia--mosquitoes don't require tropical warmth. Hurricanes, too, vary on multidecadal time scales; sea-surface temperature is likely to be an important factor. This temperature, itself, varies on multidecadal time scales. However, questions concerning the origin of the relevant sea-surface temperatures and the nature of trends in hurricane intensity are being hotly argued within the profession.
Even among those arguing, there is general agreement that we can't attribute any particular hurricane to global warming. To be sure, there is one exception, Greg Holland of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., who argues that it must be global warming because he can't think of anything else. While arguments like these, based on lassitude, are becoming rather common in climate assessments, such claims, given the primitive state of weather and climate science, are hardly compelling.

A general characteristic of Mr. Gore's approach is to assiduously ignore the fact that the earth and its climate are dynamic; they are always changing even without any external forcing. To treat all change as something to fear is bad enough; to do so in order to exploit that fear is much worse. Regardless, these items are clearly not issues over which debate is ended--at least not in terms of the actual science.

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

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unbelievable!.
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Oh really?
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
Don't you idiots worry...

YOU WILL ben inconvenienced in a BIG WAY soon...

you have no data..

you just WANT to believe the opposite..

do some research... and NO I DON'T mean read mindless drivel in opposition...

I mean DO RESEARCH

talk to REAL scientists...

go see the movie..

then think again...

I'm just hoping idiots like this AC will get Dawin'ed.. as we need to eliminate some defective thinking...
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Enigma-

I'm just hoping there's plenty of chlorine in your gene pool.....

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I think Gore chose his documentary title, very accurately: "An Inconvenient Truth". Denial and rejection is totally expected.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
a more appropriate title for his Crockumentary would have been "An Incontinent Truth", cause it JUST DOESN'T HOLD IT'S WATER!!!

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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
have you seen the movie?

have you done any REAL research?

why do you think it is not true until you see the movie and do the research...

global warming IS HAPPENING.

ask anyone in the arctic...

but wait... you only believe what you read...

go see the movie then come back and tell me it's wrong..

I been doing SERIOUS research on this since 1973...

have you watched the movie AC?

how do you know the data is wrong?
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This has become religion to the left, and as the article states, they have no scientific knowledge of climate systems.

I become more and more amazed every day by just how fucking dumb and easily tricked/led most people are.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
It's his consensus but the truth is we really need to do something about the environmental issues facing us now. We don't even have 10 years left.

If we don't find a way to heal the planet mother earth may do that for us. We may even be shedded in the process.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
no data?

read the scientific journals...

you are NOT going to tell me the data I HAVE is wrong..

but none of you idiots are scientists.

You just parrot what sounds good and right to you...

fools

FOOLS
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You are a fucking idiot if you refuse to acknowledge the climate is changing dramatically or you are Exxon's payroll.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
Yeah, it's that every scientist agrees with him. Unless paid for by Bush.

Bush has also threatened scientists into lying about how mercury is good for us, and how Yucca mountain is safe and it got caught in email, that it's all made up. Kind like the whole presidency of Bush and his phony war on terror.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
Global Warming? It seems the data is behind the times. Try global cooling.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
Ice cores only tell you what gases and at what concentration they existed, they do not tell you the temperature at the time they formed you tool.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
You have to google the so-called scientists that are speak out against man-made global warming.

You will find their ties to exxon everytime.

Every published climatologist agrees with man-made global warming and just delivered a report to congress.

There are differences in the details, but they agree we are having a significant effect on the climate and ecosystem.
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
81865, you are inccorrect.

they can also determine the temperature

google it
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A warm greeting to everybody! Hello to all,i am a new member of this forum and hope to have a good experience here
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
Explain this Enigma: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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he doesnt believe himself that is why he will not put solar on his house and continues to burn as much energy as an individual possibly can
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Re: Don't Believe the Hype Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming
no data?

read the scientific journals...

you are NOT going to tell me the data I HAVE is wrong..

but none of you idiots are scientists.

You just parrot what sounds good and right to you...

fools

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 Quoting: Enigma

Its not that i do not believe. I feel we should save our earth
I just do not understand why Gore doesnt believe. Why does he continue to be such a hypocrite. What is so hard to put solar on your roof. Or take a commercial flight
Lead by example!!!





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