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when Walmart pledged last year to buy an extra $250 billion in U.S.-made goods over the next decade, it appeared to be just what was needed to help move America's putative manufacturing renaissance from rhetoric to reality.

But suppliers trying to reshore production as part of the initiative by the world's largest retailer are running into practical problems as they try to restart long-idled corners of U.S. manufacturing. Companies that make the leap have to grapple with a host of challenges, including a shallow pool of component suppliers, an inexperienced workforce, and other shortcomings that developed during the country's long industrial decline.

Related: Cautious Consumers Battle Rising Food Prices

"A lot of the tribal knowledge and skill sets are gone because the humans who used to do that work have either retired or died," says H. Kim Kelley, the CEO of Hampton Products International, a privately held maker of locks, lighting and other household hardware. The Foothill Ranch, California-based company began selling products made in Asia to Walmart in the 1990s and is now supplying it with some U.S.-made products.

- See more at: [link to www.thefiscaltimes.com]
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We have brilliant people of color coming over the border due to Obama, I am sure a lot of them will be educated.
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We have brilliant people of color coming over the border due to Obama, I am sure a lot of them will be educated.
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I think that is the point of the article
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We have brilliant people of color coming over the border due to Obama, I am sure a lot of them will be educated.
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I think that is the point of the article
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Hmmmm.
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Walmart puts a strangle hold on American manufacturing companies with the way they do business. Something about the contract structure. The profit margin for the manufacturer shrinks incrementally the longer into the contract they are.
They end up making almost no profit even though they are selling more stock than ever and walmart makes the same profit margin.


Manufacturers are wise to it by now im sure and probably wont do business with them until walmart changes the deal.
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Re: Walmart tries to bring manufacturing back to America but cannot find smart enough employees for factory work?
Walmart puts a strangle hold on American manufacturing companies with the way they do business. Something about the contract structure. The profit margin for the manufacturer shrinks incrementally the longer into the contract they are.
They end up making almost no profit even though they are selling more stock than ever and walmart makes the same profit margin.


Manufacturers are wise to it by now im sure and probably wont do business with them until walmart changes the deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
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Re: Walmart tries to bring manufacturing back to America but cannot find smart enough employees for factory work?
Walmart puts a strangle hold on American manufacturing companies with the way they do business. Something about the contract structure. The profit margin for the manufacturer shrinks incrementally the longer into the contract they are.
They end up making almost no profit even though they are selling more stock than ever and walmart makes the same profit margin.


Manufacturers are wise to it by now im sure and probably wont do business with them until walmart changes the deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
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Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
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Re: Walmart tries to bring manufacturing back to America but cannot find smart enough employees for factory work?
Walmart puts a strangle hold on American manufacturing companies with the way they do business. Something about the contract structure. The profit margin for the manufacturer shrinks incrementally the longer into the contract they are.
They end up making almost no profit even though they are selling more stock than ever and walmart makes the same profit margin.


Manufacturers are wise to it by now im sure and probably wont do business with them until walmart changes the deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
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they are not called Armageddon-mart for nothing!

Shop there and your whole future dies along with your family.
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Re: Walmart tries to bring manufacturing back to America but cannot find smart enough employees for factory work?
Walmart puts a strangle hold on American manufacturing companies with the way they do business. Something about the contract structure. The profit margin for the manufacturer shrinks incrementally the longer into the contract they are.
They end up making almost no profit even though they are selling more stock than ever and walmart makes the same profit margin.


Manufacturers are wise to it by now im sure and probably wont do business with them until walmart changes the deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
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A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
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These factories claiming they can't find help just want .gov/or the employee to pay for job specific training.


And to pay slave wages. You get what you pay for.
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Re: Walmart tries to bring manufacturing back to America but cannot find smart enough employees for factory work?
Walmart puts a strangle hold on American manufacturing companies with the way they do business. Something about the contract structure. The profit margin for the manufacturer shrinks incrementally the longer into the contract they are.
They end up making almost no profit even though they are selling more stock than ever and walmart makes the same profit margin.


Manufacturers are wise to it by now im sure and probably wont do business with them until walmart changes the deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
 Quoting: dr.hill


No, capitalist make a profit. There is no profit to be made with walmart. Until something changes somewhere so that they can, no successful capitalist will be signing a contract to supply walmart with a meaningful product anytime soon.
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Let me tell u what walmart does to small vendors:
1 They make the biggest order in company history
2 A price is agreed on for the order.
3 Co. ties up everything in to make the order.
4 Walmart backs out of the order at the agreed price.
5 Co. is left holding a slew of inventory they must get rid of b4 they go bankrupt waiting to deliver it.
6 Walmart comes back to the Co. and buys the inventory at fire sale prices
7 Company eats shit and loses their ass on the deal!
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These factories claiming they can't find help just want .gov/or the employee to pay for job specific training.


And to pay slave wages. You get what you pay for.
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That and to keep the temp companies in business. Wal-Mart is all over NC and damned if folks down here don't love it! They have no idea what is going on. Too many obama voters who can't think for themselves.
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Walmart puts a strangle hold on American manufacturing companies with the way they do business. Something about the contract structure. The profit margin for the manufacturer shrinks incrementally the longer into the contract they are.
They end up making almost no profit even though they are selling more stock than ever and walmart makes the same profit margin.


Manufacturers are wise to it by now im sure and probably wont do business with them until walmart changes the deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
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What if I'm in Arizona and I want blueberries?
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Walmart's going down soon anyway, they can't even keep their shelves stocked because of their poor labor logistics. Supply chain is fine, but it all sits in the back.

I pay the premium to shop at Target and Kroger, at least I know it'll actually be on the shelf when I want to buy it.
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Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
 Quoting: dr.hill


No, capitalist make a profit. There is no profit to be made with walmart. Until something changes somewhere so that they can, no successful capitalist will be signing a contract to supply walmart with a meaningful product anytime soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637



$114.2 billion sales in Q1 2014...
My bet is they didn't break even.

China is full of capitalists who need a good distributor in the "Free" world. They have the largest and cheapest workforce in the world.

Not to mention the fact that Walmart stock is up more than 50% over the last 5 years.

Let's not forget the Waltons themselves...not exactly socialists.

I really can't believe that anyone could consider Walmart not a capitalist Babylon.
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Yup that is the Goal of Walmart bankrupt you then buy you out then ship the jobs to china..

they have done it to thousands of companies.

That's why other than groceries and ammo I haven't shopped there in 5 years..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50577603


Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
 Quoting: dr.hill


What if I'm in Arizona and I want blueberries?
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Annual rainfall of 13.09 inches...
It's amazing how much energy is wasted so people can live where people shouldn't live.

Still possible...
[link to tucsoncitizen.com]
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All the smart people have tech jobs fuck blue collar work
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Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
 Quoting: dr.hill


What if I'm in Arizona and I want blueberries?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58799745


Annual rainfall of 13.09 inches...
It's amazing how much energy is wasted so people can live where people shouldn't live.

Still possible...
[link to tucsoncitizen.com]
 Quoting: dr.hill


Agreed, but I had no say in it. I was born here, hope to GTFO soon.

Interesting link thanks, I figured the temp ranges made it impossible.
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"A lot of the tribal knowledge and skill sets are gone because the humans who used to do that work have either retired or died,"

An interesting blog that talks a lot about the current state of clothing manufacturing with an eye toward revitalizing the U.S. clothing manufacturing industry is
[link to www.fashion-incubator.com]

I've been reading there for years.
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when Walmart pledged last year to buy an extra $250 billion in U.S.-made goods over the next decade, it appeared to be just what was needed to help move America's putative manufacturing renaissance from rhetoric to reality.

But suppliers trying to reshore production as part of the initiative by the world's largest retailer are running into practical problems as they try to restart long-idled corners of U.S. manufacturing. Companies that make the leap have to grapple with a host of challenges, including a shallow pool of component suppliers, an inexperienced workforce, and other shortcomings that developed during the country's long industrial decline.

Related: Cautious Consumers Battle Rising Food Prices

"A lot of the tribal knowledge and skill sets are gone because the humans who used to do that work have either retired or died," says H. Kim Kelley, the CEO of Hampton Products International, a privately held maker of locks, lighting and other household hardware. The Foothill Ranch, California-based company began selling products made in Asia to Walmart in the 1990s and is now supplying it with some U.S.-made products.

- See more at: [link to www.thefiscaltimes.com]
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That's a load of bullshit.
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Right, they are just playing dumb. No capitalist in their right mind would sign a deal with walmart. They're are a poison. They're just looking for another round of suckers.
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A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
 Quoting: dr.hill


No, capitalist make a profit. There is no profit to be made with walmart. Until something changes somewhere so that they can, no successful capitalist will be signing a contract to supply walmart with a meaningful product anytime soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637



$114.2 billion sales in Q1 2014...
My bet is they didn't break even.

China is full of capitalists who need a good distributor in the "Free" world. They have the largest and cheapest workforce in the world.

Not to mention the fact that Walmart stock is up more than 50% over the last 5 years.

Let's not forget the Waltons themselves...not exactly socialists.

I really can't believe that anyone could consider Walmart not a capitalist Babylon.
 Quoting: dr.hill


Sigh....
Any American capitalist looking to make a profit would not get involved with Walmart, who are cancer capitalist, in a deal that involved their company manufacturing and supplying them.

Sheesh, do you understand now?
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Good grief. You want to bring manufacturing back and expect the industry you left en masse to rot to still have the same labour pool of workers you laid off?

Get a fucking clue.

It doesn't take college degree to learn factory work. Teach people willing to learn, and there are plenty who would, and rebuild the industry. Can't build a house without a foundation.
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A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
 Quoting: dr.hill


No, capitalist make a profit. There is no profit to be made with walmart. Until something changes somewhere so that they can, no successful capitalist will be signing a contract to supply walmart with a meaningful product anytime soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637



$114.2 billion sales in Q1 2014...
My bet is they didn't break even.

China is full of capitalists who need a good distributor in the "Free" world. They have the largest and cheapest workforce in the world.

Not to mention the fact that Walmart stock is up more than 50% over the last 5 years.

Let's not forget the Waltons themselves...not exactly socialists.

I really can't believe that anyone could consider Walmart not a capitalist Babylon.
 Quoting: dr.hill


Sigh....
Any American capitalist looking to make a profit would not get involved with Walmart, who are cancer capitalist, in a deal that involved their company manufacturing and supplying them.

Sheesh, do you understand now?
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bump
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These factories claiming they can't find help just want .gov/or the employee to pay for job specific training.


And to pay slave wages. You get what you pay for.
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Really? I thought all of these unskilled schlubs were worth $15/hr. Apparently not!
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These factories claiming they can't find help just want .gov/or the employee to pay for job specific training.


And to pay slave wages. You get what you pay for.
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Really? I thought all of these unskilled schlubs were worth $15/hr. Apparently not!
s226
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Really? I'm pretty sure he was saying you pay someone 8.50 an hr, they are going to give an 8.50 effort. :)
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A capitalist would deal with Walmart.

A community should not.

Communities sell their souls to walmart all the time.

Just to save a few bucks on groceries
they'll put their neighbors out of a job.

Your food shouldn't travel more than 100 miles.
 Quoting: dr.hill


No, capitalist make a profit. There is no profit to be made with walmart. Until something changes somewhere so that they can, no successful capitalist will be signing a contract to supply walmart with a meaningful product anytime soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637



$114.2 billion sales in Q1 2014...
My bet is they didn't break even.

China is full of capitalists who need a good distributor in the "Free" world. They have the largest and cheapest workforce in the world.

Not to mention the fact that Walmart stock is up more than 50% over the last 5 years.

Let's not forget the Waltons themselves...not exactly socialists.

I really can't believe that anyone could consider Walmart not a capitalist Babylon.
 Quoting: dr.hill


Sigh....
Any American capitalist looking to make a profit would not get involved with Walmart, who are cancer capitalist, in a deal that involved their company manufacturing and supplying them.

Sheesh, do you understand now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57761637


You stated "There is no profit to be made with walmart".

I am only saying that's bsflag

I think we're on the same side we just view things different.
No need to get testy.
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when Walmart pledged last year to buy an extra $250 billion in U.S.-made goods over the next decade, it appeared to be just what was needed to help move America's putative manufacturing renaissance from rhetoric to reality.

But suppliers trying to reshore production as part of the initiative by the world's largest retailer are running into practical problems as they try to restart long-idled corners of U.S. manufacturing. Companies that make the leap have to grapple with a host of challenges, including a shallow pool of component suppliers, an inexperienced workforce, and other shortcomings that developed during the country's long industrial decline.

Related: Cautious Consumers Battle Rising Food Prices

"A lot of the tribal knowledge and skill sets are gone because the humans who used to do that work have either retired or died," says H. Kim Kelley, the CEO of Hampton Products International, a privately held maker of locks, lighting and other household hardware. The Foothill Ranch, California-based company began selling products made in Asia to Walmart in the 1990s and is now supplying it with some U.S.-made products.

- See more at: [link to www.thefiscaltimes.com]
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Your title line is fallacious. It has nothing to do with being smart enough, it has everything to do with no one is training people to these skill sets as there waS NO DEMAND FOR THEM.
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A fools career. All manual manufacturing work will be achieved with robotics within a decade.

So don't get too invested in such a job.
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These factories claiming they can't find help just want .gov/or the employee to pay for job specific training.


And to pay slave wages. You get what you pay for.
 Quoting: Boris the Cat


I was just about to say, you mean they can't source enough candidates that can pass entry-level testing, drug tests, criminal background check, etc. --- not at $8 an hour they won't.

They'll get some people locally that are desperate and don't have much of a commute that might bite, but not in the numbers they would need.

They need to up the starting wage, significantly. It's not that they could not find qualified candidates, they are out there, they don't want to PAY for qualified candidates, and they don't want to pay to train. They are the something for nothing crowd.





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