ISRAEL-GAZA 50-Day War

Misleading my friend. Here is why. AND I QUOTE from the article you posted:

When asked what the main Palestinian goal over the next five years should be, more than half of poll respondents on the West Bank said: “To work toward reclaiming all of historic Palestine from the river to the sea.” Two-thirds of Gazans were of the same opinion. And when asked how they would react to a peace deal based on the two-state solution, most Palestinians said that such a deal should be seen not as a final agreement, but “part of a ‘program of stages,’ to liberate all of historic Palestine later.”




The devil is always in the details.

I have been thinking about something, let me know what you think, and if there are any Jewish people here correct me if I am wrong.

The Jews follow the teaching that the "Messiah" will come to save them from thier enemies when all hope has been lost and he will defeat their enemies and restore the full kingdom of Israel.

Is it possible that they take actions on the world stage to get people to come against them to speed up this process?

Please, no Bibletard arguing, just wondering if maybe this is part of their mindset.

I have been thinking about something, let me know what you think, and if there are any Jewish people here correct me if I am wrong.

The Jews follow the teaching that the "Messiah" will come to save them from thier enemies when all hope has been lost and he will defeat their enemies and restore the full kingdom of Israel.

Is it possible that they take actions on the world stage to get people to come against them to speed up this process?

Please, no Bibletard arguing, just wondering if maybe this is part of their mindset.

Agreed he is a fair and hard working leader.

We derive our strength from the great DL>

I tend to think that all this has to do with resources... that being said, from the outside looking in, the leaders of way too many countries seem to be basing their actions on religious prophecies... self fulfilling ones that is...

I tend to think that all this has to do with resources... that being said, from the outside looking in, the leaders of way too many countries seem to be basing their actions on religious prophecies... self fulfilling ones that is...

There are two sides to this conflict and to be fair one would have to allow both sides to present there views. What he is actually doing is censoring one sides honest feelings while allowing the other to cheer the deaths of innocent people and praise terrorists for genocide. it's not just shameful, it's ghoulish and cretinous

I tend to think that all this has to do with resources... that being said, from the outside looking in, the leaders of way too many countries seem to be basing their actions on religious prophecies... self fulfilling ones that is...

I have been thinking about something, let me know what you think, and if there are any Jewish people here correct me if I am wrong.

The Jews follow the teaching that the "Messiah" will come to save them from thier enemies when all hope has been lost and he will defeat their enemies and restore the full kingdom of Israel.

Is it possible that they take actions on the world stage to get people to come against them to speed up this process?

Please, no Bibletard arguing, just wondering if maybe this is part of their mindset.

Surprisingly quiet on the cam... least amount of action in days...

The Messiah will return. What has been prophecied is that when the one world leader who they have made a 7 year peace treaty with comes to Jerusalem and goes into the temple and declares himself god, the Jews must run to "the wilderness". We aren't told where that is, my hope is that the Jews will know where that is. Lord Jesus said that they mustn't go back to their homes to grab anything, but must go right away to the wilderness. Father is going to shelter a remnant of them in the wilderness and the anti-christ won't be able to find them by God's divine Power. He's going to try, however, and any Jews who don't run to the wilderness are going to be slaughtered by the anti-christ. That is the prophecy. They will be in the wilderness for 3 1/2 years and then Messiah will come and save them defeating the anti-christ's army.

HaShems' hand cannot be forced by mankind or anyone else.

All will be according to His will and timing.

Been some HUGE HITS

and you can sense the noose tightening. The small arms fire is getting closer as they poke and prod..

Off topic... but for how long???

I have been thinking about something, let me know what you think, and if there are any Jewish people here correct me if I am wrong.

The Jews follow the teaching that the "Messiah" will come to save them from thier enemies when all hope has been lost and he will defeat their enemies and restore the full kingdom of Israel.

Is it possible that they take actions on the world stage to get people to come against them to speed up this process?

Please, no Bibletard arguing, just wondering if maybe this is part of their mindset.

I understand all of that, I want to address this from the Jewish perspective only, which is different from your view.

Unless - he doesn't get the same intel as these countries did for some reason? But I doubt that.

WSJ article + current picture = instant elevation of discourse!

The article clearly demonstrates that the Palestinians have no desire for peace. They want temporary peace to prepare for final extermination of the Jews.

Did you even read the article? FROM RIVER TO SEA, both majorities in west bank and gaza feel that way. The only solution is the eventual extermination of the jews. RIVER TO SEA. BOTH MAJORITIES.

Peace is not possible with them.

And I should add: These polls and attitudes were taken with the general civilian population. So much for your precious fucking "innocent civilians"

The majority of Palestinians will only accept RIVER TO SEA extermination of the Jews. The article he posted PROVED THIS so perfectly, I can't imagine he really wanted to post it.

He thought he was demonstrating how "peaceful" the "civilians" in Gaza are. IT was as I said

MIS
LEAD
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100 percent you are wrong and I am right.

You may be right.

The thought just occurred to me that they arent too concerned about losing, becasue they believe the day they are backed in the corner and destruction is imminent that Messiah will rescue them and they will be victorious.
I'm not saying its wrong or right, I'm just wondering from a Jewish perspective if that is the mindset?

The Prophecy
1. And Jmmanuel walked out of the temple, and his disciples came up to him because they wanted to show him the temple's structure.
2. He, however, spoke to them, "Look at all this. Truly, I say to you, not one stone here will remain upon the other without being broken.
3. "The Israelite people trespass against life and the truth, and they built this city on human blood.
These people are divided into Israelites, who call themselves sons and daughters of Zion, with whom I do not identify, and who want to kill me, and Jews, who are misled believers of their religious cult, and to whom I bring the teaching of truth, as I do to all Earth humans.
4. "The Israelites have ravaged this land through plunder and murder, they have killed their friends with whom they had drunk wine, and they have deceived and misled their fellow believers of the Jewish cult, who are truly not Israelites but merely believers in a cult.
5. "Thus the Israelites betrayed their own friends and murdered them because of their greed, but it shall likewise be done to them by the rightful owners of this land whom they have deprived of their rights and subjugated since ancient times."
6. And when he sat on the Mount of Olives his disciples came up to him and said, "Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign?"
7. And Jmmanuel answered, saying, "Two thousand and more years will pass, but meanwhile Israel will never find peace because wars and many calamities will threaten the unlawful occupants of this land; but see to it that nobody leads you astray.
8. "That is, many deceivers and false prophets will come in my name and say, 'I am Jmmanuel, and I am the sign of the time,' and they will mislead many.
9. "People will hear about wars and threats of war, and they are to witness this but do not be frightened because it must transpire; but it will not yet be the end.
10. "For many a nation will rise up against its government, one nation against another and one kingdom against another, and there will be times of privation, earthquakes and immense storms and floods all about.
11. "All of these events are just the beginnings of the woes.
12. "Soon thereafter the knowledgeable people will be consigned to misery and will be killed.
13. "They will be hated on account of the truth of the teachings and the wisdom.
14. "Various religious cults will rise up against one another, and much blood will flow.
15. "Then many will succumb to the temptation, and they will betray and hate one another because they remained small in consciousness.
16. "Love will grow cold in many people because ignorance will gain the upper hand.
17. "Hatred will rule over the world and evil will reign,
18. "but those who persist in the truth will survive.
19. "This lesson will be preached in the new time throughout the world as a testimony for all peoples, and then the end will come.
20. "When the people see the horror of destruction in Jerusalem, of which the prophets have spoken, the end will come.
21. "Whoever is in the land seized by the Israelites should flee to the mountains at that time.
22. "Those on the roofs should not climb down to get things from inside their houses.
23. "Those who are in the fields should not go back to get their coats.
24. "Woe to the pregnant women and nursing mothers at that time, for they will suffer much grief and death, and there will be many of them.
25. "Soon thereafter there will be a greater grief than there has ever been before since the beginning of the world, and than will ever be again.
26. "If these days were not cut short, no one would survive; but the days will be cut short for the sake of the consciousness and of life.
27. "This will also be for the sake of the people who serve the truth and the laws.
28. "But there will be howling and chattering of teeth when this time is brought about by the people's lack of understanding and by their greed.
29. "They will construct machines of metal for use in the air, on the water and on land, and will bring about mutual destruction.
30. "From these machines of metal they will fling heavy projectiles across the land and upon the cities.
31. "Fire will burst from these projectiles and burn the world; and little will be spared.
32. "They will place the basic elements of life and deadly air into the projectiles to kindle the deadly fires and destroy land and life.
33. "If at that time mighty nations were not to intervene, as once did the celestial sons, to bring a halt to the unrestrained madness and deadly conduct of demented dictators, truly, I tell you, no human being would survive.
34. "Since the human populations will consist of far more than ten times five hundred million people at that time, great segments of them will be eradicated and killed.
35. "This is what the law ordains, because people have violated it and will continue to violate it into the distant future.
36. "If at that time someone will tell the people, 'Behold, here is Jmmanuel who is the sign of the time,' they should not accept it as the truth,
37. "for many a false Jmmanuel and many deceivers and false prophets will come forth and perform great signs and miracles, so that it will become possible to lead astray not only the seekers, believers and errant ones, but also the scholars and knowledgeable people.
38. "Behold, I have told you this beforehand, and so it will fulfill itself.
39. "Thus, when the deceivers and those led astray will say, 'He is in the desert,' people should not venture there, and when they say, 'Behold, he is in a chamber,' they should not accept it as the truth.
40. "Since I will certainly return at that time, I will let them recognize me.
41. "This is as the law and destiny ordain it, and so it shall be.
42. "For as lightning flashes and illuminates from start to finish, so will be my coming in the future, when I will bring the teaching anew and announce the legions of the celestial sons. At that time I will have a renewed life and will again be accused of deception and blasphemy across the entire world, until the teaching of truth will bring about insight and change in the people.
43. "People of all times, beware: where the carcass is, there the vultures gather, so watch out for them.
44. "Soon after the misery of that faraway time, sun and moon will lose their luster, comets will fall from the sky and the powers of the heavens will begin to sway.
45. "The makeup of the Earth's sky and air will be disturbed, and the land will burn because of the black oil of the Earth, ignited by people's craving for power. The sky will darken because of smoke and fire, which will rage for a thousand days, and everything above the burning land and far beyond will be covered with black soot. Consequently the weather will break down, and severe cold and much death will come over the people, plants and animals, and over the Earth, as a result of the senselessly unleashed forces of the people who live in lust for power, evil passions and vices.
46. "And then signs will appear in the sky, and all Earth humans will wail and come to see the signs in the clouds of the sky that bear witness to great power and severe judgment against irrationality.
47. "So JHWH is lord over the three human lineages, yet the laws and directives of Creation are eternally valid. Through these laws and directives, which represent Creation, humankind in its irrationality will bring cruel judgment upon itself.
48. "Humans owe their existence to JHWH, who is the ruler over them; so they must follow his commandments and respect him as the greatest king of wisdom.
49. "In days to come, he will send forth his guardian angels who will sound their trumpets and call together his trusted followers from the four directions, from one end of the Earth to the other.
50. "Do learn a parable from the fig tree; when its branch puts forth leaves, you know that summer is nigh.
51. "So will it also be for the people of that time; when they see all this transpire they may know that these events are upon them.
52. "Truly, truly, I say to you, this is how it will be.
53. "And that generation will not pass away until all of this has happened.
54. "At some future time the heavens and the Earth will pass away, and so will the universe; but my words will not pass away because they are the words of truth within the laws of Creation.
55. "No one knows the day or hour when this will all take place, not the guardian angels nor JHWH himself nor I, Jmmanuel; but only providence and destiny know this through the laws and directives of Creation, which possesses the greatest wisdom.
56. "Creation alone stands far above all humankind, and it alone deserves honor and praise, just as it renders honor and praise to the absolute power (Absolutum) above it.* (* See 34:23.)
57. "If people respect and honor JHWH, and if above him they recognize, honor, esteem and acknowledge only Creation as the supreme power, then they act rightly in accordance with the truth."

To me it seems confusing how people who follow Jesus would think he would approve of them supporting this murderous terrorist regime.

The article clearly demonstrates that the Palestinians have no desire for peace. They want temporary peace to prepare for final extermination of the Jews.

Did you even read the article? FROM RIVER TO SEA, both majorities in west bank and gaza feel that way. The only solution is the eventual extermination of the jews. RIVER TO SEA. BOTH MAJORITIES.

Peace is not possible with them.

And I should add: These polls and attitudes were taken with the general civilian population. So much for your precious fucking "innocent civilians"

The majority of Palestinians will only accept RIVER TO SEA extermination of the Jews. The article he posted PROVED THIS so perfectly, I can't imagine he really wanted to post it.

He thought he was demonstrating how "peaceful" the "civilians" in Gaza are. IT was as I said

MIS
LEAD
ING

100 percent you are wrong and I am right.

The NYPD has a foreign intelligence branch on par with the CIA, just smaller. Any intel that was out there, I'm sure he had access to.

Interesting!

[link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com]
9 minutes ago
Bloomberg flies to Israel to protest FAA ban
Posted by
CNN Staff

(CNN) – Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg flew to Israel Tuesday night to protest a ban by the Federal Aviation Administration that is preventing U.S. airlines from flying into or out of Israel's Ben Gurion International Airport.

Bloomberg is flying on the Israeli airline El Al.

"This evening I will be flying on El Al to Tel Aviv to show solidarity with the Israeli people and to demonstrate that it is safe to fly in and out of Israel. Ben Gurion is the best protected airport in the world and El Al flights have been regularly flying in and out of it safely," Bloomberg said in a statement.

"The flight restrictions are a mistake that hand Hamas an undeserved victory and should be lifted immediately. I strongly urge the FAA to reverse course and permit US airlines to fly to Israel," Bloomberg added.


Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu raised the FAA's action in a phone call Tuesday evening with Secretary of State John Kerry, according to the State Department.



They are really angry about this, so it must mean that they don't have any intelligence or real fear of any threat. If Netanyahu had any information of a threat that a group in Gaza or anywhere near Tel Aviv could bring down an airliner, then wouldn't he welcome the decision to temporarily cancel the flights? This just confirms my earlier suspicion that its more of a punishment, like what they did to us. That's why I can relate to their frustration.

Unless - he doesn't get the same intel as these countries did for some reason? But I doubt that.

the Prague plane first