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Do any of you serve "God" but have not met "Jesus"

 
M1.618 (OP)

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Because, M1.618

Personal experiences, places and events unfolding where I have no exit whatsoever.

Even in the bleakest of times, Lord Yeshua has always provided a way out for me-- even when I didn't deserve it.

Call it coincidence, miracles, etc I have no words.
I just believe, because after the 5th or 6th time of things happening, you stop questioning.


A real relationship with Lord Yeshua doesn't come from a pastor or someone preaching to you over the internet--

It comes from experiencing hardships and finding out who you really are during those hardships.
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But how do you know it was the Christ and how does this differ from the Lord for you.
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When I really sat down and read the Bible for myself, I was always stuck with the following question:

Am I praying to Jesus?
The Father? The Holy Spirit?

I had knowledge of scripture, but a lack of understanding to tie it together.

It wasn't until I decided to pray exclusively to Jesus that I noticed a profound change in my life, and a deepening of the understanding of scripture.

To attempt to serve God without serving Jesus is impossible.

I believe that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, with no other higher power, or equal power.

I believe because of the things I have seen manifest in my life and in other's lives.



Did I answer your question?
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Thank you, yes. In ways I believe the Christ is a personal revelation as is G-d)
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You have serious issues.
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All who are Heirs of Salvation will come to Jesus.
Jesus said so, and He is God, and cannot lie.

JOHN 6
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me;
and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will,
but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me,
that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me,
that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him,
may have everlasting life:
and I will raise him up at the last day.
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Because, M1.618

Personal experiences, places and events unfolding where I have no exit whatsoever.

Even in the bleakest of times, Lord Yeshua has always provided a way out for me-- even when I didn't deserve it.

Call it coincidence, miracles, etc I have no words.
I just believe, because after the 5th or 6th time of things happening, you stop questioning.


A real relationship with Lord Yeshua doesn't come from a pastor or someone preaching to you over the internet--

It comes from experiencing hardships and finding out who you really are during those hardships.
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TRUTH only known through experience. I would not wish some of the things I have gone through on anyone. I knew though during all of it that it was Gods plan and having faith and hope that we would get out is the only thing that gave us the strength to get out.
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Yes after multiple times you do just stop questioning and start doing what you are told.

How does one know that it is indeed Christ or God doing it? Because of the results. The fruit. There is no way that what I am going through and what is coming from it is from anything other than Good. Love. Truth and will lead to helping others heal as well.

Only Something Amazing and Full of Grace could invoke in me what is happening.

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To believe that Jesus Christ is the ONLY GOD of the Universe, in the flesh, now fully glorified, from Whom proceeds or radiates the Holy Spirit, without proof, is truly the greatest blessing of all!

Thread: WHY WAS GOD BORN A MAN?

Unfortunately, billions of people have chosen to reject this blessing, and will therefore die in their sins!

For the Lord said:

"...if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” [John 8:24]

And why the the Word further states:

"Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”

So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”

And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” [John 20:24-29]

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Any Christians, how did you meet "Jesus" how do you know he is "God"?
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My spirit met him in the clouds where I walked within the cloud. He was there in the clouds and told me that I heard his voice. That day is when my walk with Jesus began. He has led me to the Father, and I witnessed Father in tears because someone had remembered that he is the Pearl of the Greatest value:)Only through his son can we see the Father.

There was a spiritual marriage between myself and Father, when he sent his spirit to dwell within me.

Since then, I worked in his gathering of the dead parts which he called his doves. He told me to feed his doves when I was coming out of the desert, leaning only upon him. He has called me consecrated and bestowed me.

vision 7/5/11

time 10:55 am

was seeing with my eyes on a scroll of an ancient book ...The Book Of Life...read...

The Bestowed Ones

The first ones will be found as one who first stirred the Body, to revive them.

These are the those found faithful, who were those who were the first overcomers

who saw through the deception within the church, and made it known to others. They

are the first hand picked fruits of God, his Fine Seed, belonging to the (Body of Christ.)

The first to gather the (dead body parts.)

But if we will know how near the time is, we must not look without us,

but in the unsealed Book of Life within us, there you will find the fore-going signs,

which are first to be accomplished in your own Heavens and Earth within. We then walk on water in the

sense of being in a physical body on this earth, but not controlled by the lower desires. We are at rest.
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Any Christians, how did you meet "Jesus" how do you know he is "God"?
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I admittedly was raised a Christian but the question of who/what Jesus was seemed unimportant to me. He said that he spoke as God directed him and he was the good shephard who spoke the truth and it made sense. Concepts such as the trinity, religions, doctrinal differences were not really worth my time because these somehow seemed like man-made adornments added to the kernel.

Even today, to me, Jesus is the essence of truth so he is God to me. Re. God, I recognize the lion by his paw, nature's beauty and order is all I need to see to know that God exists, particularly after being taught that entropy is the natural order of things.

Later in my life people started questioning the existense of Jesus. The martyrdom of his apostles, the spread of Christianity against all resistance, and the scientific findings of the Shroud of Turin have all contributed to buttressing my faith. But that feel of truth in my heart when I flip through the gospels is probably the closest thing to an indelible sign that Jesus is God. That is the one thing that has kept me a Christian my whole life.
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Good good.. my good little controlled sheep... follow my book.. written by man to control man... our plans are almost in place.. Soon the weak willed/minded fools of all religions will be our slaves
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The irony being that only historically ignorant sheep think that religion has even been a useful tool when controlling the populace.
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Any Christians, how did you meet "Jesus" how do you know he is "God"?
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Jeus isn't God, he is the Messiah. The Scripture doesn't say he is, he never said he was. Man-made doctrines...
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Those people who walk around asking "Do you know Jesus?" are nuts. If you question any official story of anything, you are mentally ill. If you walk around claiming to "know" Jesus, you are normal. WTH
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Any Christians, how did you meet "Jesus" how do you know he is "God"?
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Jeus isn't God, he is the Messiah. The Scripture doesn't say he is, he never said he was. Man-made doctrines...
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when did he say he was the messiah? when did he say his father is the OT god?
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Any Christians, how did you meet "Jesus" how do you know he is "God"?
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Jeus isn't God, he is the Messiah. The Scripture doesn't say he is, he never said he was. Man-made doctrines...
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when did he say he was the messiah? when did he say his father is the OT god?
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When he said the shema, when he affirmed the Mosaic Law, the Torah and the prophets and when he confirmed Simon Peter's claim in Matthew 16:15-17.
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I definetly Serve the creator, God, King.

Infinite names.. undefinable.. other than I AM
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But how is "Jesus" relevant in your faith?
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Jesus is The word of The I AM Jesus who was born into flesh. As The living Word

The I Am is was and always will be The Father.

Jesus is The Word and he does not change.

It is It was and It always will be.

The Holy Ghost is The spirit of truth and it can not lie.

J.D.W. Simon Peter A Branchhfred_heart

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Any Christians, how did you meet "Jesus" how do you know he is "God"?
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Jeus isn't God, he is the Messiah. The Scripture doesn't say he is, he never said he was. Man-made doctrines...
 Quoting: vedklyvare


when did he say he was the messiah? when did he say his father is the OT god?
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When he said the shema, when he affirmed the Mosaic Law, the Torah and the prophets and when he confirmed Simon Peter's claim in Matthew 16:15-17.
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He abolished the Mosaic Law.
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I haven't met Jesus yet. I have prayed to Him and asked for a real knowledge of Him, my own experience, a true knowing of His presence. I know He existed, I know what His message was, but I can't grasp it in my head. I worry that I may not be one of his chosen ones and it scares me.

There is nothing I want more than to KNOW JESUS. I wait patiently and trust that he will reveal himself to me. I need to know Him! I ache to know Him.

That is my only desire while living in this messed up world!
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I serve God. And I have met God.

I have also met Jesus and yet I am not a Christian. Because I worship God, not Christ.
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Jeus isn't God, he is the Messiah. The Scripture doesn't say he is, he never said he was. Man-made doctrines...
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when did he say he was the messiah? when did he say his father is the OT god?
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When he said the shema, when he affirmed the Mosaic Law, the Torah and the prophets and when he confirmed Simon Peter's claim in Matthew 16:15-17.
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He abolished the Mosaic Law.
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No, he did not, Paul did.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Matthew 5:17

And no, fulfillment does not mean "nailing the Law to the cross". That's just a play with words. Gentiles were also never under the Mosaic Law.

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Jesus is The word of The I AM Jesus who was born into flesh. As The living Word

The I Am is was and always will be The Father.

Jesus is The Word and he does not change.

It is It was and It always will be.

The Holy Ghost is The spirit of truth and it can not lie.

J.D.W. Simon Peter A Branchhfred_heart
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The Holy Ghost is The spirit of truth and it can not lie.

So if you come across an entity telling untruths, you can agree that the entity is not the Father?

Yes, I agree with that. :)

hf
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I definetly Serve the creator, God, King.

Infinite names.. undefinable.. other than I AM
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But how is "Jesus" relevant in your faith?
 Quoting: M1.618


Jesus is The word of The I AM Jesus who was born into flesh. As The living Word

The I Am is was and always will be The Father.

Jesus is The Word and he does not change.

It is It was and It always will be.

The Holy Ghost is The spirit of truth and it can not lie.

J.D.W. Simon Peter A Branchhfred_heart
 Quoting: A Branch


Jesus isn't the Word (Logos) of John 1:1.

[link to www.prweb.com]

"LOGOS was a Greek word used hundreds of years prior to the birth of Jesus by Stoic philosophers to mean ‘the active reason pervading and animating the universe’. The active reason pervading and animating the universe was found specifically defined in Psalms 33:6-9, as the breath of God’s mouth: what He speaks, His words.

Psalms 33:6-9 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast."
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But beyond what is written in the bible, & history?
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He is very personal to you at times. Sometimes you don't see it until you look back and realize that He is woven within the fabric of your life. Always there in some way. Striving to have that personal relationship, knowing there is none above Him and being shown enough to not have to continue your walk in blind faith anymore is a miraculous thing and it trains your eyes to be able to see the movements of the Holy Spirit upon this world. It is no longer something that I believe just because of what I have heard or read or sense, I believe because I can see it now where before I was blind.
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