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President Obama again calls the United States the 'Homeland' - DOUBLESPEAK!

 
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During his live speech regarding Iraq, the president AGAIN referred to the United States as the 'Homeland'. For some reason, every time I hear a politician say that it gives me the creeps, like a flash of foreign armies marching across the plains of Nebraska

I did some looking around, and I guess I'm not the only one. First time I heard it was from Bush, and it's been cropping up a lot more lately.

Does anyone else get a prickling in the back of the neck when you hear it? I'm an American living in the United States, not the 'Homeland'!

I know I'm not the only one. I found this link from back in '02.

[link to www.slate.com]

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The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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Yeah, it sounds vaguely fascist. Neocons started throwing it around during the Clinton Administration, maybe even Bush I.

After awhile, you don't think about it...
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Yeah, it sounds vaguely fascist. Neocons started throwing it around during the Clinton Administration, maybe even Bush I.

After awhile, you don't think about it...
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This is the kind of thing that eats away at the vocabulary, and if your a George Orwell fan you know how important vocabulary is!

Big Brother doublespeak example if I ever heard one.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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The more I think about it, the whole homeland thing is really getting shoved down our throats.

-Homeland Security
-Homeland TV series
-constant references by political leaders

Is this word being setup to influence the population for some planned event?

We have certainly had a few recent examples of 'buzzwords' being used to influence public opinion.

-Weapons of Mass Destruction
-Global Warming
-Domestic Terrorist

I am relatively certain that any event being setup around the 'Homeland' phrase would not be anything good.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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wellcome to communisim, in soviet russia it was the motherland, in socialist america its the homeland.

GLORY TO THE HOMELAND
HAIL OBAMA
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wellcome to communisim, in soviet russia it was the motherland, in socialist america its the homeland.

GLORY TO THE HOMELAND
HAIL OBAMA
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Seeing your Canadian flag reminded me of a conspiracy thread from way back where they had a map of North and South America all merged into one country labeled 'Homeland'.

Wouldn't that just be the shit.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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That map was a Hilary state dept release if I recall. I saved it somewhere.
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That map was a Hilary state dept release if I recall. I saved it somewhere.
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Found that one here
Thread: Mexico and Canada declared part of US homeland by Senate maps

There's another older one I have not been able to find yet.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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And of course we have this guy talking about that same map, just use your imagination and add ISIL in Iraq to his talking points.



The more I look into this, the creepier it gets.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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"Homeland" will be the preferred term once national sovereignty has been eradicated by Agenda 21.
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I'm having a time with it too.


I mean the main thing seems to always be Sunni vs Shiite or what ever they want to be called.

From what I can tell the Muslim stuff is akin to every branch of Christianity being at war with each other but still being on one of two sides.
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From the very first time I heard Bush say until now...it makes me sick. Too much like the "motherland". They really should quit saying it!! And get rid of "homeland" security branch or rename it at least!!
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"Homeland" will be the preferred term once national sovereignty has been eradicated by Agenda 21.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


It seems everything eventually points to Agenda 21. You may very well be right on the money with that one. They just keep slipping out the phrase to get people used to hearing it.

Social engineering for the generation of slaves just now coming into political awareness.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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Obama über alles
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Trying to squelch American high ideals and enduring values of sovereignty and nationalism through language and re-framing. This man is completely anti-American.
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"Homeland" will be the preferred term once national sovereignty has been eradicated by Agenda 21.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


It seems everything eventually points to Agenda 21. You may very well be right on the money with that one. They just keep slipping out the phrase to get people used to hearing it.

Social engineering for the generation of slaves just now coming into political awareness.
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From the very first time I heard Bush say until now...it makes me sick. Too much like the "motherland". They really should quit saying it!! And get rid of "homeland" security branch or rename it at least!!
 Quoting: Guess Who2


In light of some of the other posts, I'm sure 'homeland' security was a very conscious decision. US Security Branch doesn't really fit in with the programming, and think of how much press the name "Homeland Security" has gotten over the last couple of years on mainstream AND alternate media.

It's all part of a plan to reach the goals of an agenda, using conspiracy as the primary enabler. Had to read that twice to make sure I typed it right
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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Christmas = Holidays
United States = Homeland
Illegal Immigrant = Immigrant

Any more?
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Trying to squelch American high ideals and enduring values of sovereignty and nationalism through language and re-framing. This man is completely anti-American.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59395782


And it's exactly what they did with 'doublespeak' in the George Orwell book 'Nineteen Eighty-four'
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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Christmas = Holidays
United States = Homeland
Illegal Immigrant = Immigrant

Any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59395782

Shelter in place.
Active shooter.
Derecho.
Polar vortex.
Gender identity.

Edit:
My favorite...out with global warming, in with climate change.

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From the very first time I heard Bush say until now...it makes me sick. Too much like the "motherland". They really should quit saying it!! And get rid of "homeland" security branch or rename it at least!!
 Quoting: Guess Who2


Same here. Sounds like WW2 Russia or Germany.

Homeland, Motherland...sick.

It has permeated our culture since then in politics, law enforcement and television and film.

It is all orchestrated and very 1984.
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Christmas = Holidays
United States = Homeland
Illegal Immigrant = Immigrant

Any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59395782


A couple more...

'Enhanced interrogation' in place of torture
'Person of interest' instead of a suspect in a crime
'Capital punishment' instead of the death penalty
'Detainee' for a prisoner of war (like in Guantanamo Bay)

And here's a few more [link to examples.yourdictionary.com]
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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From the very first time I heard Bush say until now...it makes me sick. Too much like the "motherland". They really should quit saying it!! And get rid of "homeland" security branch or rename it at least!!
 Quoting: Guess Who2


Same here. Sounds like WW2 Russia or Germany.

Homeland, Motherland...sick.

It has permeated our culture since then in politics, law enforcement and television and film.

It is all orchestrated and very 1984.
 Quoting: Donkey Jaw


And like an earlier poster said, you just get used to hearing it. The only way to resist this kind of thing is to be aware of it. Being able to pick up on the phrases they shove in our faces (but oh so subtly) has proven to be very revealing.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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I'm trying to find some audio or video examples of the 'homeland' phrase being used by the President and other political leaders. Would like to find the earliest example possible to maybe timeline the 'Homeland' plan/agenda. Any help would be appreciated.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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I have had zero luck finding any recording where 'homeland' was used prior to 9/11/2001.

Agenda 21 was created in June of '92, so if it was linked directly to that one would think I would be able to find something that used the 'homeland' phrase.

After 9/11/2001 the DHS was proposed in June 2002 (exactly 10 years after the Agenda 21 creation) and passed as law in Nov 2002.

Somebody had mentioned Bush Sr. using the phrase, any chance you would remember when that was or what speech?
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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1987.

"Homeland" was substituted for America/USA in the 1987 television miniseries entitled:

"AMERIKA"

Here is the plot:

"America has been bloodlessly taken over by the Soviet Union, leading to slave-labor camps for some, collaboration for others and rebellion for yet others."
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1987.

"Homeland" was substituted for America/USA in the 1987 television miniseries entitled:

"AMERIKA"

Here is the plot:

"America has been bloodlessly taken over by the Soviet Union, leading to slave-labor camps for some, collaboration for others and rebellion for yet others."
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wow, that's a chilling reference. Who was that that put out by?

I was hoping for something from US political figures to possibly link to Agenda 21. The way it looks now, it's all very much a part of the 9/11 fiasco to promote the thought process regarding the 'homeland'.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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Had to quote this here from another thread.

The German word for homeland is Heimat.

Heimat was a power word in Hitlers propaganda campaign.

The specific aspects of Heimat — love and attachment to homeland — left the idea vulnerable to easy assimilation into the fascist "blood and soil" literature of the National Socialists since it is relatively easy to add to the positive feelings for the Heimat a rejection of anything foreign, that however is not there necessarily. It was conceived by the Nazis that the volk community is deeply rooted in the land of their heimat through their practice of agriculture and their ancestral lineage going back hundreds and thousands of years. The Third Reich was regarded at the deepest level as the sacred heimat of the unified volk community—the national slogan was One Reich, One Volk, One Führer. Those who were taken to Nazi concentration camps were those who were officially declared by the SS to be "enemies of the volk community" and thus a threat to the integrity and security of the heimat.[3]

Prior to the presidency of George Bush the lesser, the word homeland was not used in the United States. The lesser Bush attempted to use the word in the same way Hitler did in order to promote jingoistic fascism in our country.

The Department of Homeland Security is the American equivalent of the Gestapo.

It was no accident that the Bush regime hired ex-Stasi administrators to help get DHS off the ground.
 Quoting: fnord 54972413


Every time I hear this word 'homeland' I know the context is to forward an agenda that does not bode well for the United States as we know it.

Hear the word - be wary. Prior to the 9/11 attack I was unable to find ANY reference to the USA being referred to as 'the homeland'.
The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public.

The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses.

These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification.
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The Department of Homeland Security is the American equivalent of the Gestapo.

not the Gestapo, that was a national police type org, here the FBI would be equivalent.

the DHS is akin to the RSHA, Reich Main Security Office.

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