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Chemtrails are real. Look up for more than a second. Believe your own eyes.

 
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Hundreds of images of persistent contrails from the '40s? Fuck me. Just post one. Bet you can't.

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How about a vid?


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Obviously fake. YouTube videos aren't evidence of anything. Isn't that your standard response?
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Besides, jet aircraft were still experimental at the time, and didn't become standard military assets until well after WWII. It's a classic apples to oranges comparison, my sexy, reptilian friend. I have a coloring book for you too. Have a seat.
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If you believe that only "jets" can leave contrails, then you really do not understand at all...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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You know what got me? I didn't see them until I did, lol. Let me explain. I was a photographer back in the 90s - pics of people was my job, but landscapes is what I did to relax - skip to 2005 - I'd heard a rumor of lines in the sky and thought it was silly until one day cutting grass I looked up and saw a huge trail being laid blink

Later I went through boxes of old pics looking at the skies and found them in photos from the late 90s, but didn't notice them while taking the photos. Didn't notice them from the late 90s to 2005 - it was as though being ignorant of them made them invisible to me, and once I was aware of them I saw them all the time.

So yeah, that's my story and now I will leave this thread because I have no reason or desire to get into a long debate with Snakey and his kind.

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Any aircraft can leave a contrail, including a prop plane. Duh. But they look nothing like the geoengineering chemtrails in our modern skies, that are obvious to anyone willing to look, or to turn down a disinfo job.

C'mon man. You know its an ongoing program. Your relentless patrolling of only chemtrail threads nearly proves it.

You can do it. Break ranks and admit it. Embrace the chemjesus doctrine. There might be a back rub in it for ya.
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C'mon man. You know its an ongoing program. Your relentless patrolling of only chemtrail threads nearly proves it.

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If you ever posted on anything other than chemmie threads, you'd know that I post all over this site, and about a myriad of subjects...

pick
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Tried reviving the old thread. Here's a new one.
Seems to be the last topic on GLP that still strikes a nerve.

Ok all you chemshill, ballbag-garglers. Suckers of Satan's scaly, propagandist government pecker...Let's re-start from here. Always keep in mind, I do, sincerely love you all:

But it is a fact that there is some form of clandestine, jet-delivered program of spraying something in our skies. It is ongoing, and has been, in one form or another, for well over 10 years.

When invoking "science" to justify calling me a chemtard or uneducated (which i must admit makes me feel even more justified in my beliefs), please give evidence of your education, and why it trumps many years of honest observation, by so many honest, and uninvested people. Are you an atmospheric scientist? Prove it with documentation, shilldouche. If not, my honest testimony trumps your bullshit, fake science credentials in a court all day long.

Please also explain why you so fervently attack our "crazy" beliefs so relentlessly, when the world is filled with all manner of cults and ignorance and wacky, ill-informed and potentially dangerous extremism, that would be more worthy of investigating and debunking and thwarting.

I think its because we're a group,of honest, and observant people who happen to NOTICE WIERD SHIT IN THE SKY. And the only reason we're attacked, and not left to be judged as fucking crazy by the public at large, is because we're right.

Oh, I forgot... There's cake in the conference room.
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Ok, let's take it that chemtrails exist. What are they spraying and why?
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Hundreds of images of persistent contrails from the '40s? Fuck me. Just post one. Bet you can't.

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How about a vid?


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They have been carrying out geoengineering for decades, only in the last couple of years have they ramped it up into overdrive.

That video is old, back then the Jet and propeller engines where much more polluting and they exhausted a lot of carbon and other particulates from cumbustion. Now a days the engines are much less polluting and mostly exhaust vapor, which should not form persistent contrails.
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Now a days the engines are much less polluting and mostly exhaust vapor, which should not form persistent contrails.
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George and I have proven repeatedly in the last few days that it is exactly the opposite...

Cleaner burn, more water vapor, and higher flying is all conducive to more contrails, and more persistent contrails...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Now a days the engines are much less polluting and mostly exhaust vapor, which should not form persistent contrails.
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George and I have proven repeatedly in the last few days that it is exactly the opposite...

Cleaner burn, more water vapor, and higher flying is all conducive to more contrails, and more persistent contrails...
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You have proven nothing. YOu and George B. are government shills.
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C'mon man. You know its an ongoing program. Your relentless patrolling of only chemtrail threads nearly proves it.

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If you ever posted on anything other than chemmie threads, you'd know that I post all over this site, and about a myriad of subjects...

pick
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I see your posts on other threads, it's your job after all. But derailing chemtrail threads is your "passion", or more likely, your main assignment. That is a fact.
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You have proven nothing. YOu and George B. are government shills.
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Color me shocked that you have no rebuttal...

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H'ok. Apparently *they* have been spraying for decades. Doesn't seem to have had much effect? Surely polluting the water supply would be a far more effective means of affecting a population? Why spray miles into the air, quite indiscriminately, affecting the families of everyone involved in what would have to be a monumental cover up?
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H'ok. Apparently *they* have been spraying for decades. Doesn't seem to have had much effect? Surely polluting the water supply would be a far more effective means of affecting a population? Why spray miles into the air, quite indiscriminately, affecting the families of everyone involved in what would have to be a monumental cover up?
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They think it's worth it. They don't give a damn about the peoples health, they want to protect the sensitive military and industrial electronic equipment from increased electro-magnetism that is penetrating the Earths Magnetic field.

They have not been spraying for decades, they have been carrying out geoengineering experiments for decades.

Remember what they did in Vietnam with the spraying of Agent Orange, from airplanes. They have experience in this.
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Who said it was about affecting the population? I didn't. I'm merely encouraging people to put down their damn phones for a while each day and watch the sky. I believe if you do so, honestly and with an open, unSnake-affected mind, you'll see that what goes on in the skies on some days is far from normal.
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H'ok. Apparently *they* have been spraying for decades. Doesn't seem to have had much effect? Surely polluting the water supply would be a far more effective means of affecting a population? Why spray miles into the air, quite indiscriminately, affecting the families of everyone involved in what would have to be a monumental cover up?
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They think it's worth it. They don't give a damn about the peoples health, they want to protect the sensitive military and industrial electronic equipment from increased electro-magnetism that is penetrating the Earths Magnetic field.

They have not been spraying for decades, they have been carrying out geoengineering experiments for decades.

Remember what they did in Vietnam with the spraying of Agent Orange, from airplanes. They have experience in this.
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What is worth what?
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Who said it was about affecting the population? I didn't. I'm merely encouraging people to put down their damn phones for a while each day and watch the sky. I believe if you do so, honestly and with an open, unSnake-affected mind, you'll see that what goes on in the skies on some days is far from normal.
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Then what's it for? I see the sky every day and see nothing but contrails that are affected by differing atmospheric conditions. Why would such a convoluted, impractical and inefficient means be employed? Now.....if you told me that it was solar radiation management I might be slightly swayed.

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H'ok. Apparently *they* have been spraying for decades. Doesn't seem to have had much effect? Surely polluting the water supply would be a far more effective means of affecting a population? Why spray miles into the air, quite indiscriminately, affecting the families of everyone involved in what would have to be a monumental cover up?
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They think it's worth it. They don't give a damn about the peoples health, they want to protect the sensitive military and industrial electronic equipment from increased electro-magnetism that is penetrating the Earths Magnetic field.

They have not been spraying for decades, they have been carrying out geoengineering experiments for decades.

Remember what they did in Vietnam with the spraying of Agent Orange, from airplanes. They have experience in this.
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What is worth what?
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I give no credibility to people who build up their karma by "Reported Abusive Post", you do this to make your bar green to make you seem more credible.
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H'ok. Apparently *they* have been spraying for decades. Doesn't seem to have had much effect? Surely polluting the water supply would be a far more effective means of affecting a population? Why spray miles into the air, quite indiscriminately, affecting the families of everyone involved in what would have to be a monumental cover up?
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They think it's worth it. They don't give a damn about the peoples health, they want to protect the sensitive military and industrial electronic equipment from increased electro-magnetism that is penetrating the Earths Magnetic field.

They have not been spraying for decades, they have been carrying out geoengineering experiments for decades.

Remember what they did in Vietnam with the spraying of Agent Orange, from airplanes. They have experience in this.
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What is worth what?
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I give no credibility to people who build up their karma by "Reported Abusive Post", you do this to make your bar green to make you seem more credible.
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Lol, lost for a proper answer? Deflection much? So, let's have a cogent reply from you eh?

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Lol, lost for a proper answer?
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As usual...
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They think it's worth it. They don't give a damn about the peoples health, they want to protect the sensitive military and industrial electronic equipment from increased electro-magnetism that is penetrating the Earths Magnetic field.

They have not been spraying for decades, they have been carrying out geoengineering experiments for decades.

Remember what they did in Vietnam with the spraying of Agent Orange, from airplanes. They have experience in this.
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What is worth what?
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I give no credibility to people who build up their karma by "Reported Abusive Post", you do this to make your bar green to make you seem more credible.
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Lol, lost for a proper answer?
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No, but I'm not wasting my time, 95% chance you are a paid denier, I bet that's not even you in your avatar.
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What is worth what?
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I give no credibility to people who build up their karma by "Reported Abusive Post", you do this to make your bar green to make you seem more credible.
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Lol, lost for a proper answer?
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No, but I'm not wasting my time, 95% chance you are a paid denier, I bet that's not even you in your avatar.
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Pathetic excuse. Answer the question. What are the chemtrails for, what is used and what is the desired outcome. Of course it's not me....good god, it's an avatar. My pic is on the glp user pics thread if you're that interested.

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Lol, lost for a proper answer?
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As usual...
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Cue insult and diversion technique....
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Who said it was about affecting the population? I didn't. I'm merely encouraging people to put down their damn phones for a while each day and watch the sky. I believe if you do so, honestly and with an open, unSnake-affected mind, you'll see that what goes on in the skies on some days is far from normal.
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Then what's it for? I see the sky every day and see nothing but contrails that are affected by differing atmospheric conditions. Why would such a convoluted, impractical and inefficient means be employed? Now.....if you told me that it was solar radiation management I might be slightly swayed.
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I make no claims as to the purpose of the program, just that it undeniably exists. If the skies always look normal to you, i guess i envy your blissful ignorance. I do like your style, though. It works well in tandem with snake.
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Who said it was about affecting the population? I didn't. I'm merely encouraging people to put down their damn phones for a while each day and watch the sky. I believe if you do so, honestly and with an open, unSnake-affected mind, you'll see that what goes on in the skies on some days is far from normal.
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Then what's it for? I see the sky every day and see nothing but contrails that are affected by differing atmospheric conditions. Why would such a convoluted, impractical and inefficient means be employed? Now.....if you told me that it was solar radiation management I might be slightly swayed.
 Quoting: Elemental


I make no claims as to the purpose of the program, just that it undeniably exists. If the skies always look normal to you, i guess i envy your blissful ignorance. I do like your style, though. It works well in tandem with snake.
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Right. So it exists but you have no idea what chemicals are used or what the purpose is. Nice one. Clever. If you're going to make claims at least have some sort of back up evidence. I have unicorns in my garden. Prove me wrong.

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Who said it was about affecting the population? I didn't. I'm merely encouraging people to put down their damn phones for a while each day and watch the sky. I believe if you do so, honestly and with an open, unSnake-affected mind, you'll see that what goes on in the skies on some days is far from normal.
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Then what's it for? I see the sky every day and see nothing but contrails that are affected by differing atmospheric conditions. Why would such a convoluted, impractical and inefficient means be employed? Now.....if you told me that it was solar radiation management I might be slightly swayed.
 Quoting: Elemental


I make no claims as to the purpose of the program, just that it undeniably exists. If the skies always look normal to you, i guess i envy your blissful ignorance. I do like your style, though. It works well in tandem with snake.
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Right. So it exists but you have no idea what chemicals are used or what the purpose is. Nice one. Clever. If you're going to make claims at least have some sort of back up evidence. I have unicorns in my garden. Prove me wrong.
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The only evidence i have is honest observation of the sky. Im encouraging others to take an honest look. Not knowing what the program is for, or what chemicals are involved has no bearing on the fact that some organized, spraying program is ongoing, and very much a reality. All you have to do is look. Enjoy your unicorns. I, unlike you, have no vested interest in whether they're real or not.
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Then what's it for? I see the sky every day and see nothing but contrails that are affected by differing atmospheric conditions. Why would such a convoluted, impractical and inefficient means be employed? Now.....if you told me that it was solar radiation management I might be slightly swayed.
 Quoting: Elemental


I make no claims as to the purpose of the program, just that it undeniably exists. If the skies always look normal to you, i guess i envy your blissful ignorance. I do like your style, though. It works well in tandem with snake.
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Right. So it exists but you have no idea what chemicals are used or what the purpose is. Nice one. Clever. If you're going to make claims at least have some sort of back up evidence. I have unicorns in my garden. Prove me wrong.
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The only evidence i have is honest observation of the sky. Im encouraging others to take an honest look. Not knowing what the program is for, or what chemicals are involved has no bearing on the fact that some organized, spraying program is ongoing, and very much a reality. All you have to do is look. Enjoy your unicorns. I, unlike you, have no vested interest in whether they're real or not.
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You should have a vested interest because whatever they are spraying could be affecting your health, your families health, etc. Obviously whatever they are spraying is not natural to the atmosphere. There is people who have sent soil samples after the area has been sprayed, they have found high levels of Aluminum, Barium, and other chemicals, these are toxic to humans and other life.
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Reasons for the spraying IMO.

Contrary to popular belief I don't think Solar radiation managment is the primary objective, quite possibly it's a tenpory side effect. The SRM purpose would be to reduce heat but, while climate change is real, the warming part is bogus. Solar cycles and the upcoming launder minimum will continue its chilling effect for the next 50 or so years. This is touching on a whole different topic so I'll save the discourse for another thread. Bottom line, chaos will increasde during the change, including very hot extremes at times but on the whole the planet is cooling. The sun drives our weather, and why wouldn't it being the primary source of energy.

Back on topic now. What they are probably used for in order of likelihood

1.) Atmospheric observation. Fly a scientific plane around and find boundaries of pressure, temperature and other defining characteristics. Drop a line of metallic particles, use radar to track. Think chaff from a military jet. The crossing patterns and V shapes I believe Mark points of intersection involving more then 2 boundaries.

2.) Manipulation of said observations. Use the metallic particles to help focus high powered radar to heat areas to manipulate systems. This is HAARP. There are dozens of these installations across the globe. Ionosphere heating concepts work at all altitudes. Especially if you have laid down a pocket/ trail of particles that are more susceptible to EM wave heating. Microwaves work because polar water molecules don't absorb the energy but get flipped back and forth when an alternating waveform is used to rapidly switch polarity. Temperature is average kinetic energy.

3.). Military purposes. Such as Defense from previously mentioned concepts used by other countries ie.) Russia. Or possibly for communication scrambling or enhancement (see extrenely very low frequency antenna requirements and experiments in using temporary very long chaff antennas to help communicate with subs)

4.) Straight up cloud generation. From what I've witnessed the spraying occurs with great rigor and focus on particular spots of the sky. However there are plenty of days when it's all out lines across the sky all day. The morning is clear sky's with a high pressure system (meaning low likely hood of persistent contrails formation) and by afternoon it's overcast. A very thin overcast that often propogates the circle rainbows but overcast nonetheless. Timelapsed video easily shows how the lines spreading and growing are the source of the overcast sky.


5.) Mass vaccination experiments. This one borders on nutty but the US government has sprayed bacteria, radioactive particles and all sorts of other things on small segments of population in the past. Vast programs have been declassified that ran in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. The ability to innoculate mass populations with ease in the event of a pandemic (fun fact, the Spanish flu outbreak killed far more people then the bubonic plague, by raw numbers at least) would certainly be a useful tool.


I choose not to contemplate anything more nefarious for my own mental health.


I believe they have been successful in reducing fukushima fallout on the west coast by forcing precipitation before it reaches the coast. Albeit at the cost of creating a drought. The lesser of two evils IMO.

In regards to haarp I believe that the weather radar domes and cellphone towers can play a role in assisting the manipulation. Two questions I haven't gotten an answer to are..

why do cell towers often have access the high voltage lines and very powerful transformers. The ERP set by the Fcc is a lot lower then what they are powered for. Powerful FM towers that can broadcast hundreds of miles have less power capabilities then some of these cell towers that broadcast a couple of miles max.

And what the Fuck are the dozens upon dozens of bizarre anomolies that can be seen on even NOAAs Nws site. Or any other site that doesn't actively filter any and all anomalies. And I'm not talking ground clutter, or sunset spikes, or large flocks of birds/insects. I'm talking strong circular returns or brief spikes that can span multiple states or powerful returns that persist for a few hours and do not move while a weather system moves all around it.



This is all based on my observations, my research into weather/atmospheric research that's been published, dozens of patents spanning from the 60's to today regarding these topics, and my rudimentary understanding of electromagnetic wave propagation and it's ability to interact with metals, vapors, magnetic lines of force and the ionosphere.
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Re: Chemtrails are real. Look up for more than a second. Believe your own eyes.
It's funny to see all these little kids who think they have a clue what technology is available to the military industrial complex today.

How long did it take before people were finally allowed to realize that the entirety of today's digital communications networks is a vast spy-net? That's right... most still don't know.

If a computer model tells them that something might be possible...they do it. And creating low pressure systems to steer the jet stream around California isn't High-Tech anymore. However, it is blatant. Watch the radar sometime.

Don't give me that 'There are better ways to wage war' bullshit. That's why we're losing. Everyone thinks only their preconceived notion of generic warfare is relevant.

Watch the hydro logical environment of farm states.
Watch the food supplies.
Watch the sky.

This isn't rocket science. This isn't even high school science like the shills claim. It's common sense and instinct. When someone is fucking with your food and water you know about it on an instinctual level. Well unless you're all fucked up on government mind control medications...
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06/25/2014 11:09 AM

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Reasons for the spraying IMO.

Contrary to popular belief I don't think Solar radiation managment is the primary objective, quite possibly it's a tenpory side effect. The SRM purpose would be to reduce heat but, while climate change is real, the warming part is bogus. Solar cycles and the upcoming launder minimum will continue its chilling effect for the next 50 or so years. This is touching on a whole different topic so I'll save the discourse for another thread. Bottom line, chaos will increasde during the change, including very hot extremes at times but on the whole the planet is cooling. The sun drives our weather, and why wouldn't it being the primary source of energy.

Back on topic now. What they are probably used for in order of likelihood

1.) Atmospheric observation. Fly a scientific plane around and find boundaries of pressure, temperature and other defining characteristics. Drop a line of metallic particles, use radar to track. Think chaff from a military jet. The crossing patterns and V shapes I believe Mark points of intersection involving more then 2 boundaries.

2.) Manipulation of said observations. Use the metallic particles to help focus high powered radar to heat areas to manipulate systems. This is HAARP. There are dozens of these installations across the globe. Ionosphere heating concepts work at all altitudes. Especially if you have laid down a pocket/ trail of particles that are more susceptible to EM wave heating. Microwaves work because polar water molecules don't absorb the energy but get flipped back and forth when an alternating waveform is used to rapidly switch polarity. Temperature is average kinetic energy.

3.). Military purposes. Such as Defense from previously mentioned concepts used by other countries ie.) Russia. Or possibly for communication scrambling or enhancement (see extrenely very low frequency antenna requirements and experiments in using temporary very long chaff antennas to help communicate with subs)

4.) Straight up cloud generation. From what I've witnessed the spraying occurs with great rigor and focus on particular spots of the sky. However there are plenty of days when it's all out lines across the sky all day. The morning is clear sky's with a high pressure system (meaning low likely hood of persistent contrails formation) and by afternoon it's overcast. A very thin overcast that often propogates the circle rainbows but overcast nonetheless. Timelapsed video easily shows how the lines spreading and growing are the source of the overcast sky.


5.) Mass vaccination experiments. This one borders on nutty but the US government has sprayed bacteria, radioactive particles and all sorts of other things on small segments of population in the past. Vast programs have been declassified that ran in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. The ability to innoculate mass populations with ease in the event of a pandemic (fun fact, the Spanish flu outbreak killed far more people then the bubonic plague, by raw numbers at least) would certainly be a useful tool.


I choose not to contemplate anything more nefarious for my own mental health.


I believe they have been successful in reducing fukushima fallout on the west coast by forcing precipitation before it reaches the coast. Albeit at the cost of creating a drought. The lesser of two evils IMO.

In regards to haarp I believe that the weather radar domes and cellphone towers can play a role in assisting the manipulation. Two questions I haven't gotten an answer to are..

why do cell towers often have access the high voltage lines and very powerful transformers. The ERP set by the Fcc is a lot lower then what they are powered for. Powerful FM towers that can broadcast hundreds of miles have less power capabilities then some of these cell towers that broadcast a couple of miles max.

And what the Fuck are the dozens upon dozens of bizarre anomolies that can be seen on even NOAAs Nws site. Or any other site that doesn't actively filter any and all anomalies. And I'm not talking ground clutter, or sunset spikes, or large flocks of birds/insects. I'm talking strong circular returns or brief spikes that can span multiple states or powerful returns that persist for a few hours and do not move while a weather system moves all around it.



This is all based on my observations, my research into weather/atmospheric research that's been published, dozens of patents spanning from the 60's to today regarding these topics, and my rudimentary understanding of electromagnetic wave propagation and it's ability to interact with metals, vapors, magnetic lines of force and the ionosphere.
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