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Chemtrails are real. Look up for more than a second. Believe your own eyes.

 
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You scare me, because you didn't pass any logic classes.
Certainly you are not insinuating that the trails can only be "contrails", are you? Use the other half of your brain now...
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Pretty clear who does not understand 'logic'...

You look at a contrail that has 90 years of real science behind it's definition and explanation, yet you insist you are special, and inherently 'understand' that it can not possibly be a contrail...

You are indeed very 'special'...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Yeah, I am. That's what my degrees in math and comp sci say, at least.
I also understand people, greed and power, which is the element you are not taking into consideration at all, because you're short-bus special.
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Ignored the meat of that post I see...

yawn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I intentionally disregarded what you said because it was so presumptuous - retardedly presumptuous at that. I assumed it was a misunderstanding on your part. But now I see where your problem lies...

You'd prefer to believe that everytime I look in the sky and see a trail, I believe it is a "chemtrail". Wow. I thought that kind of way of thinking was reserved for the glue-sniffing libtards.

Of course I don't retardedly go the hyperbolic route, believeing that ALL trails I see in the sky are "chemtrails". As many other posters have pointed out, there are patterns and characteristics that can be recognized when they are actually spraying.

Your mental image of people that believe chemtrails exist is the same for all chemtards, probably shaped by an obnoxious crazy friend you had that believed them in the way you'd like to believe I believe. So, you argue against a belief that no one even holds, and you think you are winning the argument! But you're just winning against an imaginary person - a remnant of a real person, or a completely fabricated one in your own head - one that argues the way you need them to argue so you can make fun of them and feel better about yourself, as if you are smarter...

...All the while not realizing how ridiculous you look to everyone else. You do realize there are patents for this technology and that it has been talked about openly by people who would both know about it and have the power and resources to put it in the air....right? You do know what one could do with this technology, don't you? Is there no money or power to be gained by using it? Are you ignoring decades of scientific development or just ignoring human greed?

I seriously recommend a logic class. Life will become less embarrassing for you.
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Well that settles it then. You have to be a paid disinfo op, because that's the only lucrative job one can find in that neck of the woods.
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As educated about Vermont as you are about contrails...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Been there many times, my reptilian adversary. Know it very well. The biggest industry seems to be opioids. Rock On space brother.
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With such a closed mind; you are incapable of grasping the motive of those in power. Their 'achievable outcomes' are increasingly evident. The level of deception and corruption working against your very existence is thrown in your face every day. You choose to subscribe to some of those narratives but then draw a mental line in the sand for others. It's ok. Some people are like that. Don't ask me for evidence of ecocide, genocide, or any other crime against planet Earth. The evidence is horrifying. Depleted Uranium, Fukushima, Oil spills, fracking, ocean pollution, Air pollution, deforestation, plastics, Geo-engineering...

oh wait... there is only one reality in this equation that doesn't seem to have a clear solution for you. I'm sorry. That's mind control.
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Oh, I see. A closed mind is one that requires some sort of evidence, right. Gotcha.
 Quoting: Elemental


You would've been one of the people saying relativity wasn't true until the experiments were carried out. Turns out you would've been wrong. There is evidence of geo-engineering you refuse to acknowledge but even without it you'd have to be a Jew in the 1940s to ignore the reality unfolding around you. They might as well name the 'Weather Channel' the 'Air Traffic Channel' at this point. I only argue with shills to challenge my own concept of reality. I've never wavered in this subject. Neither has the disinformation. You are allowed to believe anything else you'd like, without protest, except this. It doesn't matter where you are or who you know. This topic is forbidden to be questioned. They are contrails. End of discussion. If you believe otherwise you have no concept of the scientific method and no knowledge of the present accepted truth of reality.

You have zero evidence that your digital technology isn't sentient either. Believe what you like. Don't tell me my view of reality is incorrect though. You have zero evidence of that. You've never taken instrumentation of aircraft condensation trails at high altitude. You're just trusting that no one else except Obama's elite scientific council has either.

Let us believe what we'd like. There's plenty of other candidates for the 'you have no evidence of that' floating around on the board to get your opinionator fix for the day.

Oh look! Now everybody's flying to grandma's!
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I'm not saying that chemtrails don't exist. In fact I do believe that solar radiation management is in progress and now it can't be stopped. But that's another story ;) and your post is word salad. Your point being?
 Quoting: Elemental


Interesting: Elemental, why do you feel there is a solar mgt program in progress?coffee4

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Ok...

Back from the big city...What did I mis...

Oh...I see...

Absolutely nothing...

yawn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Looks like I have missed all the action. Hmmmm . . . we have people who can tell the difference between persistent contrails and really persistent contrails. And they can also know every flight in the air within 200 miles their altitude and vector.

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Been there many times, my reptilian adversary. Know it very well. The biggest industry seems to be opioids. Rock On space brother.
 Quoting: gmigriff


I see you get your info from the governor and the MSM...

cruise
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Regarding Environmental Testing: Recently in Arizona there was a meeting by concerned citizens with a state Senator not Federal. The state presented this linked information.

"EPA Contrail Formation Guidance Document

Occasionally, ADEQ staff hears from members of the public who wonder if these contrails might actually contain harmful chemicals. They may have heard them described as chemtrails. ADEQ has reviewed data from soil, air and water samples and has also looked at outside reports claiming evidence of high levels of barium and aluminum in air, soil, and ground water. Based upon the department's review of monitored samples tested by the ADEQ, it has been determined that the current levels of aluminum and barium contained in the air, water, and soil are all within acceptable guidelines, and have not varied significantly over the years. Additionally, evidence of reports showing the contrary are largely exaggerated and unverified as to authenticity and laboratory methods used.
"
[link to www.azdeq.gov]

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Hundreds of images of persistent contrails from the '40s? Fuck me. Just post one. Bet you can't.

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How about a vid?


 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I love this video. I am going to put it on my info Thread so I don't lose track of it!!!
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EVERY CONDITION IS WRONG FOR CONTRAIL FORMATION

The formation of condensation trails require high vacuum, cold temperatures and high humidity. However, the output side of a jet engine contains mostly outside air that has pushed through the engine by the large ducted fan (the ducted fan is the set of spinning blades that you see when you look at the front of the engine). This high pressure at the output of the engine is contrary for the formation of condensation trails because pressurized air has the ability to hold much more water in suspension, without producing condensation.

Condensation requires a decrease in ambient air pressure to form, but the output of the turbine is under very high pressure which prohibits the formation of condensation trails.

Therefore, the trails seen in the sky are deliberate aerosol chemtrails.

Those high efficiency jet aircraft engines are quite the marvel.
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EVERY CONDITION IS WRONG FOR CONTRAIL FORMATION

The formation of condensation trails require high vacuum, cold temperatures and high humidity. However, the output side of a jet engine contains mostly outside air that has pushed through the engine by the large ducted fan (the ducted fan is the set of spinning blades that you see when you look at the front of the engine). This high pressure at the output of the engine is contrary for the formation of condensation trails because pressurized air has the ability to hold much more water in suspension, without producing condensation.

Condensation requires a decrease in ambient air pressure to form, but the output of the turbine is under very high pressure which prohibits the formation of condensation trails.

Therefore, the trails seen in the sky are deliberate aerosol chemtrails.

Those high efficiency jet aircraft engines are quite the marvel.
 Quoting: YaGottaLaugh


And just how long do these conditions exist? Three nano seconds. A couple of seconds. Then the ambient temperatures, pressures, and RH take over. That is a reasonable explanation why there is usually a gap between the engines and the contrail which forms trailing a few hundred or thousand feet behind the engines. Remember the aircraft is often flying over 550 to 640 mph.
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Go look up kids. Those aren't contrails :)
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Go look up kids. Those aren't contrails :)
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They look like contrails to me. Why do you think they are not?
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Go look up kids. Those aren't contrails :)
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Worth repeating all day long.
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Go look up kids. Those aren't contrails :)
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Worth repeating all day long.
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[link to m.earthobservatory.nasa.gov]

2014 Cloud Chart

Chemtrail Southe

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And you're saying that all those 'contrails' in the sat pic are from normal air traffic? Really?
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And you're saying that all those 'contrails' in the sat pic are from normal air traffic? Really?
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Yes, without any doubt at all!
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Go look up kids. Those aren't contrails :)
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They look like contrails to me. Why do you think they are not?
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George B

Can you read the weather , get in a plane , make a persistent contrail that stays in the sky four a few hours , land nearby and record it all start to finish ?
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The term "CHEMTRAIL" was coined by your very own

U.S. DEPT. OF DEFENSE way back in 1990.

chuckle
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Undeniable evidence is the persistent trails are not there at night, sometimes they do spray at night, but that's not Solar Radiation Management, that's weather modding/geoengineering.


The lack of solar heating at night should mean more trails due to the temp drop, that is if you want to believe science.


Shills cannot argue against the lack of night time persistent trails, because it throws their "scientific" argument in the trash.
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And you're saying that all those 'contrails' in the sat pic are from normal air traffic? Really?
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Yes, without any doubt at all!
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The term "CHEMTRAIL" was coined by your very own

U.S. DEPT. OF DEFENSE way back in 1990.

chuckle
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Please link your source.
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And you're saying that all those 'contrails' in the sat pic are from normal air traffic? Really?
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Yes, without any doubt at all!
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Flight path visualization
[link to www.youtube.com]


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Undeniable evidence is the persistent trails are not there at night, sometimes they do spray at night, but that's not Solar Radiation Management, that's weather modding/geoengineering.


The lack of solar heating at night should mean more trails due to the temp drop, that is if you want to believe science.


Shills cannot argue against the lack of night time persistent trails, because it throws their "scientific" argument in the trash.

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FAIL.

Idiot.
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Undeniable evidence is the persistent trails are not there at night, sometimes they do spray at night, but that's not Solar Radiation Management, that's weather modding/geoengineering.


The lack of solar heating at night should mean more trails due to the temp drop, that is if you want to believe science.


Shills cannot argue against the lack of night time persistent trails, because it throws their "scientific" argument in the trash.

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FAIL.

Idiot.
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Than you for proving my point.
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Undeniable evidence is the persistent trails are not there at night, sometimes they do spray at night, but that's not Solar Radiation Management, that's weather modding/geoengineering.


The lack of solar heating at night should mean more trails due to the temp drop, that is if you want to believe science.


Shills cannot argue against the lack of night time persistent trails, because it throws their "scientific" argument in the trash.

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FAIL.

Idiot.
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Than you for proving my point.
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Than = Thank

Like I said...undeniable chuckle
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Undeniable evidence is the persistent trails are not there at night, sometimes they do spray at night, but that's not Solar Radiation Management, that's weather modding/geoengineering.


The lack of solar heating at night should mean more trails due to the temp drop, that is if you want to believe science.


Shills cannot argue against the lack of night time persistent trails, because it throws their "scientific" argument in the trash.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59662990


How do you quantitate what you just said? Do you have any data to prove what you just said? Maybe there are fewer flights of all types during the night. That could explain any reduction of persistent contrails. My experience is in the dark contrails are harder to see, what about that?

This is a night image by the way:

Saudi Pic 1991

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Undeniable evidence is the persistent trails are not there at night, sometimes they do spray at night, but that's not Solar Radiation Management, that's weather modding/geoengineering.


The lack of solar heating at night should mean more trails due to the temp drop, that is if you want to believe science.


Shills cannot argue against the lack of night time persistent trails, because it throws their "scientific" argument in the trash.

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How do quantitate what you just said? Do you have any data to prove what you just said? Maybe there are fewer flights of all types during the night. That could explain any reduction of persistent contrails. My experience is in the dark contrails are harder to see, what about that?
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If the persistent trails can create shade with the sun out, we'd never see the stars as they are not near as bright.

Cooler at night, trails should be more..period

And yes you can see them at night on occasion, but it's not Solar Radiation Management. And yes there is just as much air traffic at night.
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"science" doesn't stop because the sun went down, it still applies.


You show pics of clouds that are man-made, then deny they exist, that's literally refuting your own argument shill.


Solar Radiation Management only happens when the sun is up, night time persistent trails are weather modding/geoengineering, it's rare for the conditions to actually create persistent trails.
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The term "CHEMTRAIL" was coined by your very own

U.S. DEPT. OF DEFENSE way back in 1990.

chuckle
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Please link your source.
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"CHEMTRAILS" A CHEMISTRY MANUEL ISSUED BY THE
U.S. DEPT. OF DEFENSE 1990. google the above pilot
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Undeniable evidence is the persistent trails are not there at night, sometimes they do spray at night, but that's not Solar Radiation Management, that's weather modding/geoengineering.


The lack of solar heating at night should mean more trails due to the temp drop, that is if you want to believe science.


Shills cannot argue against the lack of night time persistent trails, because it throws their "scientific" argument in the trash.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59662990


How do quantitate what you just said? Do you have any data to prove what you just said? Maybe there are fewer flights of all types during the night. That could explain any reduction of persistent contrails. My experience is in the dark contrails are harder to see, what about that?
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If the persistent trails can create shade with the sun out, we'd never see the stars as they are not near as bright.

Cooler at night, trails should be more..period

And yes you can see them at night on occasion, but it's not Solar Radiation Management. And yes there is just as much air traffic at night.
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Please read page 16 of this report on Air traffic Controllers Stress reduction recommendations, it is page 22 of the viewer program. It clearly states workload peaks in the afternoon and slowest at night. [link to www.skybrary.aero]

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Give him a sec, he's busy digging through his 'library' of YouTube vids.
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