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There has been suspicion for some time that some parents who want to get rid of their kids have been taking advantage of the lenient sentences given to people who "forget" their kids in the car.

Making sure a full and complete investigation is done in every case can help spot those whose kids have lots of recently purchased accidental death insurance.
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
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Yes! Excellent question! Was this little boy even alive when he was placed in that carseat ?????
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Also further reading, the mother has been told NO INTERVIEWS WITH THE PRESS. apparently she's being investigated too. No word if they were married or together. And the paramedics stating his answers to first initial response were not making sense.
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It just keeps getting more and more depraved. I sincerely hope this Mom had nothing to do with this..........


verysad
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She didn't.

And, the dad did not intentionally do this.

The mother can't mourn her own child because vans of reporters won't leave her house. People call and knock and will not leave her alone.

Why in the world would she want to talk about this, as if she could?

We need to quit judging and wait.

This site is full of people who KNOW how the police and attorneys will cover things up or embellish things to further their own self-interests but when this happens we take their word for it as if it were the Gospel.

These are nice, sweet, loving parents and I couldn't imagine being in their shoes and he is innocent until proven guilty. Too bad the truth doesn't sell or create "controversy."
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Do you know them personally?
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
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I was younger than that, and after hernia surgery, I was in a crib in the hallway of the hospital, and as my father walked around the corner, I stood up, pointed at him and yelled out "There's my Daddy!"

That child suffered unbelievably...I can imagine a monster that could do that...
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
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I was younger than that, and after hernia surgery, I was in a crib in the hallway of the hospital, and as my father walked around the corner, I stood up, pointed at him and yelled out "There's my Daddy!"

That child suffered unbelievably...I can imagine a monster that could do that...
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My youngest is almost two, she will scream her ass off if you leave her alone for more than a minute. How did no one notice this kid was in the car? Did he park as far away from everything as possible?

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Also further reading, the mother has been told NO INTERVIEWS WITH THE PRESS. apparently she's being investigated too. No word if they were married or together. And the paramedics stating his answers to first initial response were not making sense.
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It just keeps getting more and more depraved. I sincerely hope this Mom had nothing to do with this..........


verysad
 Quoting: Almylo


She didn't.

And, the dad did not intentionally do this.

The mother can't mourn her own child because vans of reporters won't leave her house. People call and knock and will not leave her alone.

Why in the world would she want to talk about this, as if she could?

We need to quit judging and wait.

This site is full of people who KNOW how the police and attorneys will cover things up or embellish things to further their own self-interests but when this happens we take their word for it as if it were the Gospel.


These are nice, sweet, loving parents and I couldn't imagine being in their shoes and he is innocent until proven guilty. Too bad the truth doesn't sell or create "controversy.




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I am sure everyone concerned is hoping for the TRUTH; but especially for JUSTICE to prevail for that precious, innocent child.
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
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I was younger than that, and after hernia surgery, I was in a crib in the hallway of the hospital, and as my father walked around the corner, I stood up, pointed at him and yelled out "There's my Daddy!"

That child suffered unbelievably...I can imagine a monster that could do that...
 Quoting: BRIEF


My youngest is almost two, she will scream her ass off if you leave her alone for more than a minute. How did no one notice this kid was in the car? Did he park as far away from everything as possible?
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The child may have been mentally fucked up, and "dad" didn't know how to handle it...he fuck up, but I bet somewhere in the details there's something like that going on...
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
 Quoting: LostInForever


I was younger than that, and after hernia surgery, I was in a crib in the hallway of the hospital, and as my father walked around the corner, I stood up, pointed at him and yelled out "There's my Daddy!"

That child suffered unbelievably...I can imagine a monster that could do that...
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Let's hope that the autopsy report will reveal a cause of death that is not so gruesome and heart wrenching for this little boy.



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Even if this was pure negligence, the son of a bitch should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

That being said, it is clear that the cops saw from the beginning that this was a case of someone trying to get away with blatant murder.

If this is proven, I hope he dies the same death that he inflicted on his son.

What a fucking monster.
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Been thinking lately that they need to expand that law that says if you give birth you can drop the baby at any fire station or police station, no questions asked.

Maybe they have to expand that to "you can drop any child at any fire or police station".

Story didn't make any sense. If someone was expecting to receive the child for care, I think they said it was the grandmother, then why didn't the grandmother call and ask "where's the kid"? or even if it was daycare why didn't they call and say "where's the kid?".

Somethings definitely not right from the beginning.
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Been thinking lately that they need to expand that law that says if you give birth you can drop the baby at any fire station or police station, no questions asked.

Maybe they have to expand that to "you can drop any child at any fire or police station".

Story didn't make any sense. If someone was expecting to receive the child for care, I think they said it was the grandmother, then why didn't the grandmother call and ask "where's the kid"? or even if it was daycare why didn't they call and say "where's the kid?".

Somethings definitely not right from the beginning.
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That's a good point! The story mentioned a daycare, so they would normally call if the child does not show up.

Neither of the parents would call to say he wouldnt be attending, as this would only implicate them; so who dropped the ball ??

Seems to me that it should be a procedural directive to place a call to one or both of the parents when a child does not arrive for daycare. This could have prevented Cooper's death, if, in fact his parents are innocent of murder and guilty of homicidal negligence.

So, that will be a very IMPORTANT piece of info when it comes out!

Did the daycare call those parents?!?!

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Also further reading, the mother has been told NO INTERVIEWS WITH THE PRESS. apparently she's being investigated too. No word if they were married or together. And the paramedics stating his answers to first initial response were not making sense.
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It just keeps getting more and more depraved. I sincerely hope this Mom had nothing to do with this..........


verysad
 Quoting: Almylo


She didn't.

And, the dad did not intentionally do this.

The mother can't mourn her own child because vans of reporters won't leave her house. People call and knock and will not leave her alone.

Why in the world would she want to talk about this, as if she could?

We need to quit judging and wait.

This site is full of people who KNOW how the police and attorneys will cover things up or embellish things to further their own self-interests but when this happens we take their word for it as if it were the Gospel.

These are nice, sweet, loving parents and I couldn't imagine being in their shoes and he is innocent until proven guilty. Too bad the truth doesn't sell or create "controversy."
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Were you there?

How do you know the dad didn't intentionally do this??

If he was googling how long it takes for animals to die in a car immediately before leaving his kid to die in a car, that would be a pretty big coincidence, wouldn't it?

I mean, if he had been recently researching the subject, it would be pretty difficult to forget his own child in the same situation.

There's a local case here in Utah involving a 4 month old whose father was charged with child abuse. The child had an extreme retinal hemorrhage and other signs of shaken baby syndrome, including decreased movement on one side of his body.

The baby apparently had been in the hospital at 2 months old with facial bruising that his father said had been caused by a fall from the bed.

In this incident that led to the father being charged, he supposedly found the baby not breathing and tried to resuscitate him, causing some trauma.

However, the baby had HEALING rib fractures.

The mom will argue that the baby has a condition that causes him to aspirate his saliva and a hereditary vitamin D deficiency that makes his bones extremely fragile.

Things that you would imagine doctors would take into consideration before involving DCFS.

We are talking about a 4 month old baby who, has sustained repeated injuries while in his father's exclusive care - broken ribs, hemorrhaging retinas, shaken baby syndrome - but the dad and the mom cry that it was all for the good of the child, despite his known delicate bones and his known tendency to aspirate his own saliva.

Right.

How fucking stupid do people think the courts, doctors and family services are?

I have seen some pretty horrific examples of child abuse in my lifetime, generally at the hands of dads. But moms who enable dads to abuse their children, who make excuses and allow for their children to be mistreated are the lowest of the low.

We are their MOTHERS for fucks sake. I would kill and die for my babies, and there's no way in hell I would be standing by my man if I thought for a second he had hurt my child.
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Also further reading, the mother has been told NO INTERVIEWS WITH THE PRESS. apparently she's being investigated too. No word if they were married or together. And the paramedics stating his answers to first initial response were not making sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50432903


It just keeps getting more and more depraved. I sincerely hope this Mom had nothing to do with this..........


verysad
 Quoting: Almylo


She didn't.

And, the dad did not intentionally do this.

The mother can't mourn her own child because vans of reporters won't leave her house. People call and knock and will not leave her alone.

Why in the world would she want to talk about this, as if she could?

We need to quit judging and wait.

This site is full of people who KNOW how the police and attorneys will cover things up or embellish things to further their own self-interests but when this happens we take their word for it as if it were the Gospel.

These are nice, sweet, loving parents and I couldn't imagine being in their shoes and he is innocent until proven guilty. Too bad the truth doesn't sell or create "controversy."
 Quoting: Donkey Jaw


Were you there?

How do you know the dad didn't intentionally do this??

If he was googling how long it takes for animals to die in a car immediately before leaving his kid to die in a car, that would be a pretty big coincidence, wouldn't it?

I mean, if he had been recently researching the subject, it would be pretty difficult to forget his own child in the same situation.

There's a local case here in Utah involving a 4 month old whose father was charged with child abuse. The child had an extreme retinal hemorrhage and other signs of shaken baby syndrome, including decreased movement on one side of his body.

The baby apparently had been in the hospital at 2 months old with facial bruising that his father said had been caused by a fall from the bed.

In this incident that led to the father being charged, he supposedly found the baby not breathing and tried to resuscitate him, causing some trauma.

However, the baby had HEALING rib fractures.

The mom will argue that the baby has a condition that causes him to aspirate his saliva and a hereditary vitamin D deficiency that makes his bones extremely fragile.

Things that you would imagine doctors would take into consideration before involving DCFS.

We are talking about a 4 month old baby who, has sustained repeated injuries while in his father's exclusive care - broken ribs, hemorrhaging retinas, shaken baby syndrome - but the dad and the mom cry that it was all for the good of the child, despite his known delicate bones and his known tendency to aspirate his own saliva.

Right.

]How fucking stupid do people think the courts, doctors and family services are?

I have seen some pretty horrific examples of child abuse in my lifetime, generally at the hands of dads. But moms who enable dads to abuse their children, who make excuses and allow for their children to be mistreated are the lowest of the low.

We are their MOTHERS for fucks sake. I would kill and die for my babies, and there's no way in hell I would be standing by my man if I thought for a second he had hurt my child.
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Don't discount the possibility of none of this even being real. Just saying.
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Don't discount the possibility of none of this even being real. Just saying.
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yeah, like the fact the child's name is Conner, like Scott and Laci Peterson's baby. Distraction.
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Em18966,

Despite the various viewpoints being expressed in this thread; I believe the FACT that the investigators/detectives found 'recent' searches on Harris's work computer BEFORE his child was left in the vehicle
re: length of time it takes an animal to expire in a hot vehicle; to be very incriminating. But that will not be enough evidence to prosecute this man of course, so we will wait with the rest of the world for them to uncover more evidence.
Good or bad.
Whichever it is, Cooper is still gone, and we can only hope, as I stated earlier, that he will have JUSTICE. His life was taken from him. He deserves that much.

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Don't discount the possibility of none of this even being real. Just saying.
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yeah, like the fact the child's name is Conner, like Scott and Laci Peterson's baby. Distraction.
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It's Cooper.
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you are correct - my mistake. Thanks.
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
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Or trying to climb out of his seat? I know my oldest son could get out of his at 18 months.
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Also now reporting his computer seized and found to have recent searches for how long it take an animal to die in a hot car.
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This guy is sounding alot like Casey Anthony with the gruesome computer searches! So horrific...........
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Before or after the child's death?
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
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Or trying to climb out of his seat? I know my oldest son could get out of his at 18 months.
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I couldn't keep my Houdini in the car seat..
I would have to pull over every five seconds.
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Also now reporting his computer seized and found to have recent searches for how long it take an animal to die in a hot car.
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This guy is sounding alot like Casey Anthony with the gruesome computer searches! So horrific...........
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Before or after the child's death?
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[link to wreg.com]




Article states Harris did the search on his work computer BEFORE the child was left in the car.


This reporter cites his source as Cobb County Law Enforcement.
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22 months old is nearly two years. This kid wasn't crying his ass off immediately?
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Or trying to climb out of his seat? I know my oldest son could get out of his at 18 months.
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Exactly! Was he even conscious when his father left him in that vehicle?

Many, many questions remain to be answered.
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Don't discount the possibility of none of this even being real. Just saying.
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yeah, like the fact the child's name is Conner, like Scott and Laci Peterson's baby. Distraction.
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It's Cooper.
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Thank you for pointing out my mistake. I read his name incorrectly in the CNN article. Posts now corrected :))
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There has been suspicion for some time that some parents who want to get rid of their kids have been taking advantage of the lenient sentences given to people who "forget" their kids in the car.

Making sure a full and complete investigation is done in every case can help spot those whose kids have lots of recently purchased accidental death insurance.
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Sadly, I believe that there are some people who will always 'game' the justice system; even to the extent of committing pre meditated murder against their own offspring.

I fully agree that due to the 'lenient' sentences handed down out of pure empathy for these parents who have without malice killed their children by accident in their own vehicles; that we must, as a society, protect innocent lives being taken by FULLY investigating any/all crimes or unintentional acts of this nature.
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Em18966,

Despite the various viewpoints being expressed in this thread; I believe the FACT that the investigators/detectives found 'recent' searches on Harris's work computer BEFORE his child was left in the vehicle
re: length of time it takes an animal to expire in a hot vehicle; to be very incriminating. But that will not be enough evidence to prosecute this man of course, so we will wait with the rest of the world for them to uncover more evidence.
Good or bad.
Whichever it is, Cooper is still gone, and we can only hope, as I stated earlier, that he will have JUSTICE. His life was taken from him. He deserves that much.
 Quoting: Almylo


I do agree that those searches are not enough to prosecute.

However, those searches in combination with witnesses coming forward may be.

Whether this was negligence or a deliberate act of murder, this baby died most cruelly and there is no question WHO is responsible for that.

All of this talk about 'evidence' and 'witnesses' aside, I know that I am not the only 'empath' out there who can read eyes and body language and my own intuition with great accuracy.

The shot of this dad? It's not the shot of a grieving man, it's the shot of a GUILTY man. Look at his eyes.

Of course, this is in my opinion and is no way to be construed as libel, as I couldn't POSSIBLY know what actually happened. All I can do is to encourage people to use their own intuition.
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Em18966,

Despite the various viewpoints being expressed in this thread; I believe the FACT that the investigators/detectives found 'recent' searches on Harris's work computer BEFORE his child was left in the vehicle
re: length of time it takes an animal to expire in a hot vehicle; to be very incriminating. But that will not be enough evidence to prosecute this man of course, so we will wait with the rest of the world for them to uncover more evidence.
Good or bad.
Whichever it is, Cooper is still gone, and we can only hope, as I stated earlier, that he will have JUSTICE. His life was taken from him. He deserves that much.
 Quoting: Almylo


I do agree that those searches are not enough to prosecute.

However, those searches in combination with witnesses coming forward may be.

Whether this was negligence or a deliberate act of murder, this baby died most cruelly and there is no question WHO is responsible for that.

All of this talk about 'evidence' and 'witnesses' aside, I know that I am not the only 'empath' out there who can read eyes and body language and my own intuition with great accuracy.

The shot of this dad? It's not the shot of a grieving man, it's the shot of a GUILTY man. Look at his eyes.












Of course, this is in my opinion and is no way to be construed as libel, as I couldn't POSSIBLY know what actually happened. All I can do is to encourage people to use their own intuition.
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