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Is Wicca evil?

 
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idealistic thinking, but it can never be... not here on earth, or anywhere in this galaxy...

it is wise to understand - physical existence is flawed by design... the intention is not to continue the game - it is to recognize the game for what it is, recognize who you are, complete your experiences, and move on...

simple to understand, challenging to do...
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Until you recognize the golden rule you will never move on, life is a "game" of experiences and challenges and whatever journey your sould has chosen for you in this existence, it is your challenge to overcome all greed, hatred lust materialism fear poverty oppression etc... When you can live by the golden rule in every moment you breath you can take the next step...

Simple concept, incredible challenge!
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what is your definition of the "golden rule" ?
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Do to others as you want done to yourself

This poster sums it up nicely at the bottom of the link....
[link to www.scarboromissions.ca (secure)]
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If you want to take one step further, it is about love in its purest form, unconditionally and without cessation, understanding that what you do to others only impacts you, you love you love yourself, you hate it is only on you...

Learn ot love others unconditionally and you learn to love yourself without question (harder than it sounds), all your challenges in life are simply helping you to learn this, the more you fight against changing the stronger the challenges become....

Perhaps the greatest challenge is too question our sub conscious behaviours which we do not see in our self and make these conscious and change them. This makes us vulnerable because our sub conscious is what we believe protects us in the world. If you truly want to change these behaviours ask those closest to you to help you identify the behaviours that defeat you.....
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In the end. It's simply the Aliens tapping in and forwarding their agenda thru the divided we fall system.

Create the hate. Distract them with their hate.
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No. Christians stole 1/2 of their religion from wicca.
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And half from Mithraism.
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Just plain wrong.
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No. Christians stole 1/2 of their religion from wicca.
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And half from Mithraism.
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Just plain wrong.
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So wrong it's stupid!!
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Don't all things have the potential to be good or evil?
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
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All religions point to the same place
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absolutely not! They do NOT point to the same thing. expand your knowledge please.
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Don't all things have the potential to be good or evil?
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
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What do you think your religious rituals are?
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Witch in rocking chair in Hell

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Don't all things have the potential to be good or evil?
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
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As always eloquence and logic from those who deny without consideration.... Go back to the herd you sheep....
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Don't all things have the potential to be good or evil?
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


What do you think your religious rituals are?
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Which religious rituals?
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Don't all things have the potential to be good or evil?
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


As always eloquence and logic from those who deny without consideration.... Go back to the herd you sheep....
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I don't have a herd. I also have considered and reached a conclusion, but sure, present your arguments and allow me to reconsider. Although I doubt you could produce any other arguments than ad hominem.
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Don't all things have the potential to be good or evil?
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


As always eloquence and logic from those who deny without consideration.... Go back to the herd you sheep....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


I don't have a herd. I also have considered and reached a conclusion, but sure, present your arguments and allow me to reconsider. Although I doubt you could produce any other arguments than ad hominem.
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If you take notice of my ac# you will find my arguments throughout this entire thread....
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


As always eloquence and logic from those who deny without consideration.... Go back to the herd you sheep....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


I don't have a herd. I also have considered and reached a conclusion, but sure, present your arguments and allow me to reconsider. Although I doubt you could produce any other arguments than ad hominem.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


If you take notice of my ac# you will find my arguments throughout this entire thread....
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Yes, I did find some trite new-age platitudes being regurgitated. It was love this and love that (not that I disagree), as usual, until it came to the most important part - practical implication. Your snide, passive-aggressive reply didn't exactly reek of love™, brother.

Suddenly a contrary opinion makes you a sheep, and that Christian way to "purity" is but a herd. Also, remind me when I called myself a Christian.

"Simple concept, incredible challenge!" Right?!
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Not evil but it is another Zio-lluminati created subversive religious cartoon just like all this neo-paganism.

If you want to go pagan do the real thing and forget the neo-paganism.
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As always eloquence and logic from those who deny without consideration.... Go back to the herd you sheep....
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I don't have a herd. I also have considered and reached a conclusion, but sure, present your arguments and allow me to reconsider. Although I doubt you could produce any other arguments than ad hominem.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


If you take notice of my ac# you will find my arguments throughout this entire thread....
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Yes, I did find some trite new-age platitudes being regurgitated. It was love this and love that (not that I disagree), as usual, until it came to the most important part - practical implication. Your snide, passive-aggressive reply didn't exactly reek of love™, brother.

Suddenly a contrary opinion makes you a sheep, and that Christian way to "purity" is but a herd. Also, remind me when I called myself a Christian.

"Simple concept, incredible challenge!" Right?!
 Quoting: vedklyvare


I never claimed once to be righteous and following what I know, like I said the challenge is to do it, although that being said I have no problem with people debate my arguments and if I feel you are a sheep, please feel free to call me out.

I have written a lot more than just your disregarded trite you speak of, and you have still yet to make a single logical argument....

I subscribe to no religion or doctrine, but any time the Christians start to spew out statements of grandeur accusations, I feel I must speak up to be true to myself.....
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Not evil but it is another Zio-lluminati created subversive religious cartoon just like all this neo-paganism.

If you want to go pagan do the real thing and forget the neo-paganism.
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And who is profiting from wicca? Are you saying that the zio-illuminati are trying to break people from the corporate religions into a highly disorganized religion that respects the earth and lives by doing no harm to others....
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Don't all things have the potential to be good or evil?
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


What do you think your religious rituals are?
 Quoting: LostInForever


Which religious rituals?
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All of them.
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I don't have a herd. I also have considered and reached a conclusion, but sure, present your arguments and allow me to reconsider. Although I doubt you could produce any other arguments than ad hominem.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


If you take notice of my ac# you will find my arguments throughout this entire thread....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


Yes, I did find some trite new-age platitudes being regurgitated. It was love this and love that (not that I disagree), as usual, until it came to the most important part - practical implication. Your snide, passive-aggressive reply didn't exactly reek of love™, brother.

Suddenly a contrary opinion makes you a sheep, and that Christian way to "purity" is but a herd. Also, remind me when I called myself a Christian.

"Simple concept, incredible challenge!" Right?!
 Quoting: vedklyvare


I never claimed once to be righteous and following what I know, like I said the challenge is to do it, although that being said I have no problem with people debate my arguments and if I feel you are a sheep, please feel free to call me out.

I have written a lot more than just your disregarded trite you speak of, and you have still yet to make a single logical argument....

I subscribe to no religion or doctrine, but any time the Christians start to spew out statements of grandeur accusations, I feel I must speak up to be true to myself.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


You're right, one should strive towards purity and perfection, but the purest form of worship is in spirit and in truth; worshipping and acknowledging the Most High God and not the creation. That is pure. And that is how this world works. You can't detach from your Creator.

"[Jesus] words were teachings ( if you can find the real ones, unadulterated by the church), wonderful teachings if you get he meaning, but no more important that any other intelligent being that understand how this world works."

Jesus indeed wasn't God as you say - he was the Messiah. But please don't pretend you have access to the "real" teachings of Jesus, that's just cliche new-age egomania.
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Not evil but it is another Zio-lluminati created subversive religious cartoon just like all this neo-paganism.

If you want to go pagan do the real thing and forget the neo-paganism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50074510


And who is profiting from wicca? Are you saying that the zio-illuminati are trying to break people from the corporate religions into a highly disorganized religion that respects the earth and lives by doing no harm to others....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


Again i dont disrespect it i even have sympathies, call me a deist christian who thinks christians institutions are beyond redemption...just saying that if you want to go pagan do the real thing not manufactured/engineered neo-paganism. There are even wiccans who use Satanic imagery that is downright silly for all those of us who know Satanism is no "cool" and "rebelious".
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Even Jews don't believe he was the messiah. He kinda failed miserably on that whole thousand years of peace thing.
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I don't have a herd. I also have considered and reached a conclusion, but sure, present your arguments and allow me to reconsider. Although I doubt you could produce any other arguments than ad hominem.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


If you take notice of my ac# you will find my arguments throughout this entire thread....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


Yes, I did find some trite new-age platitudes being regurgitated. It was love this and love that (not that I disagree), as usual, until it came to the most important part - practical implication. Your snide, passive-aggressive reply didn't exactly reek of love™, brother.

Suddenly a contrary opinion makes you a sheep, and that Christian way to "purity" is but a herd. Also, remind me when I called myself a Christian.

"Simple concept, incredible challenge!" Right?!
 Quoting: vedklyvare


I never claimed once to be righteous and following what I know, like I said the challenge is to do it, although that being said I have no problem with people debate my arguments and if I feel you are a sheep, please feel free to call me out.

I have written a lot more than just your disregarded trite you speak of, and you have still yet to make a single logical argument....

I subscribe to no religion or doctrine, but any time the Christians start to spew out statements of grandeur accusations, I feel I must speak up to be true to myself.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


Further, new age is a common stereotype that people like yourself like to throw around to try and associate people to flaky idiots...

Love is not a new age concept, their is a reason that it is so close to live and evil is the opposite of live/love, do you think that language is a random mishmash of sounds....

...spend some real time researching the true history of religions and their great prophets, you will find they all speak the same core principles and they are simply new prophets that are reinventions when the masses became tired of the govt corrupting the teachings for greed and power

I bet you think gmos are conventional as well :) ( I noticed you are from Sweden, hence feel free to disregard if this sentence makes no sense to you)
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Indeed. But some thing are, if not intrinsically evil, atleast intrinsically wrong. Witchcraft, even so called white witchcraft, is wrong.
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What do you think your religious rituals are?
 Quoting: LostInForever


Which religious rituals?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


All of them.
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So praying then?
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Its not the religion that's evil its the people and the color of their souls. Good and bad right or wrong is up to each individual.
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Not evil but it is another Zio-lluminati created subversive religious cartoon just like all this neo-paganism.

If you want to go pagan do the real thing and forget the neo-paganism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50074510


And who is profiting from wicca? Are you saying that the zio-illuminati are trying to break people from the corporate religions into a highly disorganized religion that respects the earth and lives by doing no harm to others....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


Again i dont disrespect it i even have sympathies, call me a deist christian who thinks christians institutions are beyond redemption...just saying that if you want to go pagan do the real thing not manufactured/engineered neo-paganism. There are even wiccans who use Satanic imagery that is downright silly for all those of us who know Satanism is no "cool" and "rebelious".
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You do know that the swastika was a symbol of peace before hitler got a hold of it.... Their is a lot more to symbolism than simply saying that they are satanic.....

Remember evil has always existed but satanism was a creation from Christianity..... Just saying
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Rome created Christianity and Rome is the forth Beast of the Bible. Rome also crucified Christ. Almost all churches have a steeple on the top. The steeple is an oblisk. Washington and Rome have Oblisk all over them. Christianity uses the Bible but twist it and only teach what they are allowed.

Every Pagan I have ran across treated the ground they walked on as part of them and they did not trash it. They use herbs and everything God put on this planet for food and medicine. Most Christians go to the doctor to get a potion which the Bible warns against. Pagans did not follow what Rome was spreading and that is why they are outcast to Christians. I believe in Jesus and God but I will not partake in the Christian Church. Too many sheep that cannot think for themselves.

Peace
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I think you mean the Catholic Church? Much of the Catholic practices are not biblical!
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Catholics cobbled together the NT. It's their book. Hello, anybody hoooome?
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What do you think your religious rituals are?
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Which religious rituals?
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All of them.
 Quoting: LostInForever


So praying then?
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Absolutely. It's just highly ineffective magick. Your prayers would work far better if you took "I hope" or "I wish" or "I want" out of them.
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Not evil but it is another Zio-lluminati created subversive religious cartoon just like all this neo-paganism.

If you want to go pagan do the real thing and forget the neo-paganism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50074510


And who is profiting from wicca? Are you saying that the zio-illuminati are trying to break people from the corporate religions into a highly disorganized religion that respects the earth and lives by doing no harm to others....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59076693


Again i dont disrespect it i even have sympathies, call me a deist christian who thinks christians institutions are beyond redemption...just saying that if you want to go pagan do the real thing not manufactured/engineered neo-paganism. There are even wiccans who use Satanic imagery that is downright silly for all those of us who know Satanism is no "cool" and "rebelious".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50074510


You do know that the swastika was a symbol of peace before hitler got a hold of it.... Their is a lot more to symbolism than simply saying that they are satanic.....

Remember evil has always existed but satanism was a creation from Christianity..... Just saying
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What makes you think Hitler didn't intend it that way too? Nobody thinks they're the bad guy.
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Which religious rituals?
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All of them.
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So praying then?
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Absolutely. It's just highly ineffective magick. Your prayers would work far better if you took "I hope" or "I wish" or "I want" out of them.
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I don't wish, want or hope anything really. Or atleast not what you're thinking of. And they have been proven very 'effective'. If effect really was the prime incentive that is.
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All of them.
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So praying then?
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Absolutely. It's just highly ineffective magick. Your prayers would work far better if you took "I hope" or "I wish" or "I want" out of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1443201


I don't wish, want or hope anything really. Or atleast not what you're thinking of. And they have been proven very 'effective'. If effect really was the prime incentive that is.
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What other incentive would there be?

They have not been proven very effective, because it is impossible to "prove." Same as magick, impossible to prove.

Sure as shit works, though. Fact remains, you are casting magick whether you know it or not. I'm just throwing a tidbit to get you on the way to getting better at it.
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So praying then?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Absolutely. It's just highly ineffective magick. Your prayers would work far better if you took "I hope" or "I wish" or "I want" out of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1443201


I don't wish, want or hope anything really. Or atleast not what you're thinking of. And they have been proven very 'effective'. If effect really was the prime incentive that is.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


What other incentive would there be?

They have not been proven very effective, because it is impossible to "prove." Same as magick, impossible to prove.

Sure as shit works, though. Fact remains, you are casting magick whether you know it or not. I'm just throwing a tidbit to get you on the way to getting better at it.
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Connecting with the Source of All. I'm not asking for shit, not that you would know anything about that. The proof is the visions/replies I've been recieving. Things that are verifiable, that I possible couldn't have known any other way. Small things, but with great implications.
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