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Is Wicca evil?

 
LostInForever

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Absolutely. It's just highly ineffective magick. Your prayers would work far better if you took "I hope" or "I wish" or "I want" out of them.
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I don't wish, want or hope anything really. Or atleast not what you're thinking of. And they have been proven very 'effective'. If effect really was the prime incentive that is.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


What other incentive would there be?

They have not been proven very effective, because it is impossible to "prove." Same as magick, impossible to prove.

Sure as shit works, though. Fact remains, you are casting magick whether you know it or not. I'm just throwing a tidbit to get you on the way to getting better at it.
 Quoting: LostInForever


Connecting with the Source of All. I'm not asking for shit, not that you would know anything about that. The proof is the visions/replies I've been recieving. Things that are verifiable, that I possible couldn't have known any other way. Small things, but with great implications.
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cruise

Magick 101. What you're doing is basically invocation, inviting what you call "the Source" into you.

You want something all right, and you're getting it: visions, knowledge. The core goal of all high magick.
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Absolutely an abomination to God, for they worship the creation NOT the Creator.
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So an omnipresent being created something not part of itself?
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I don't wish, want or hope anything really. Or atleast not what you're thinking of. And they have been proven very 'effective'. If effect really was the prime incentive that is.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


What other incentive would there be?

They have not been proven very effective, because it is impossible to "prove." Same as magick, impossible to prove.

Sure as shit works, though. Fact remains, you are casting magick whether you know it or not. I'm just throwing a tidbit to get you on the way to getting better at it.
 Quoting: LostInForever


Connecting with the Source of All. I'm not asking for shit, not that you would know anything about that. The proof is the visions/replies I've been recieving. Things that are verifiable, that I possible couldn't have known any other way. Small things, but with great implications.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


cruise

Magick 101. What you're doing is basically invocation, inviting what you call "the Source" into you.

You want something all right, and you're getting it: visions, knowledge. The core goal of all high magick.
 Quoting: LostInForever


No, it's not. I'm not inviting anything, and some of the visions I've had came prior to me inquiring about it in prayer. Only God knows what's in your heart and mind.
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Re: Is Wicca evil?
I know nothing about Wicca, but if it is an organized religion, then yes, it is evil.
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Rome created Christianity and Rome is the forth Beast of the Bible. Rome also crucified Christ. Almost all churches have a steeple on the top. The steeple is an oblisk. Washington and Rome have Oblisk all over them. Christianity uses the Bible but twist it and only teach what they are allowed.

Every Pagan I have ran across treated the ground they walked on as part of them and they did not trash it. They use herbs and everything God put on this planet for food and medicine. Most Christians go to the doctor to get a potion which the Bible warns against. Pagans did not follow what Rome was spreading and that is why they are outcast to Christians. I believe in Jesus and God but I will not partake in the Christian Church. Too many sheep that cannot think for themselves.

Peace
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I think you mean the Catholic Church? Much of the Catholic practices are not biblical!
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Catholics cobbled together the NT. It's their book. Hello, anybody hoooome?
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Hello!! Not true!!

The Roman Empire made Christianity the official Roman religion but did not create Christianity. They created a counterfeit version of Christianity to control the Roman sheeple maybe but they did not create true Christianity!!
The early years of Christianity was based in Jerusalem.

True Christianity is not a religion it's a personal relationship with the living GOD through Jesus Christ in prayer!! Not some Roman Catholic Church Club that sheeple run to every Sunday!!!
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Rome created Christianity and Rome is the forth Beast of the Bible. Rome also crucified Christ. Almost all churches have a steeple on the top. The steeple is an oblisk. Washington and Rome have Oblisk all over them. Christianity uses the Bible but twist it and only teach what they are allowed.

Every Pagan I have ran across treated the ground they walked on as part of them and they did not trash it. They use herbs and everything God put on this planet for food and medicine. Most Christians go to the doctor to get a potion which the Bible warns against. Pagans did not follow what Rome was spreading and that is why they are outcast to Christians. I believe in Jesus and God but I will not partake in the Christian Church. Too many sheep that cannot think for themselves.

Peace
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I think you mean the Catholic Church? Much of the Catholic practices are not biblical!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59644025


Catholics cobbled together the NT. It's their book. Hello, anybody hoooome?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20793638


Hello!! Not true!!

The Roman Empire made Christianity the official Roman religion but did not create Christianity. They created a counterfeit version of Christianity to control the Roman sheeple maybe but they did not create true Christianity!!
The early years of Christianity was based in Jerusalem.

True Christianity is not a religion it's a personal relationship with the living GOD through Jesus Christ in prayer!! Not some Roman Catholic Church Club that sheeple run to every Sunday!!!
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Are you a trinitarian?

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I think you mean the Catholic Church? Much of the Catholic practices are not biblical!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59644025


Catholics cobbled together the NT. It's their book. Hello, anybody hoooome?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20793638


Hello!! Not true!!

The Roman Empire made Christianity the official Roman religion but did not create Christianity. They created a counterfeit version of Christianity to control the Roman sheeple maybe but they did not create true Christianity!!
The early years of Christianity was based in Jerusalem.

True Christianity is not a religion it's a personal relationship with the living GOD through Jesus Christ in prayer!! Not some Roman Catholic Church Club that sheeple run to every Sunday!!!
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Are you a trinitarian?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Father + Son + Holy Spirit = GOD
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And who is profiting from wicca? Are you saying that the zio-illuminati are trying to break people from the corporate religions into a highly disorganized religion that respects the earth and lives by doing no harm to others....
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Again i dont disrespect it i even have sympathies, call me a deist christian who thinks christians institutions are beyond redemption...just saying that if you want to go pagan do the real thing not manufactured/engineered neo-paganism. There are even wiccans who use Satanic imagery that is downright silly for all those of us who know Satanism is no "cool" and "rebelious".
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You do know that the swastika was a symbol of peace before hitler got a hold of it.... Their is a lot more to symbolism than simply saying that they are satanic.....

Remember evil has always existed but satanism was a creation from Christianity..... Just saying
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What makes you think Hitler didn't intend it that way too? Nobody thinks they're the bad guy.
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I wasn't commenting on hitlers thoughts, I was showing how symbol believed to be satanic could mean something completed different to others....

....the bastardization comes from who has used the symbol not the origins....
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Catholics cobbled together the NT. It's their book. Hello, anybody hoooome?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20793638


Hello!! Not true!!

The Roman Empire made Christianity the official Roman religion but did not create Christianity. They created a counterfeit version of Christianity to control the Roman sheeple maybe but they did not create true Christianity!!
The early years of Christianity was based in Jerusalem.

True Christianity is not a religion it's a personal relationship with the living GOD through Jesus Christ in prayer!! Not some Roman Catholic Church Club that sheeple run to every Sunday!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


Are you a trinitarian?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Father + Son + Holy Spirit = GOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


God = YHWH, The Most High God

Jesus = the Messiah

Holy Spirit/ruach hakodesh = the Spirit God, the active force proceeding from God

trinitarianism = Roman heritage

trinitarianism = not monotheistic

trinitarianism = pagan roots

trinitarianism = daughter of Rome

God is One, not three

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Absolutely an abomination to God, for they worship the creation NOT the Creator.
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if your god thinks someone is an abomination because that person doesn't worship him, then to hell with your god.
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Christ was a member of the Conspiracy who turned against it...a bit like Jewish chess player Bobby Fischer.

He wanted to create an anti-Conspiracy religion/ideology to try to take the Jews away from the evil path and he failed. Then he turned to the Gentiles and started to be sucessful then the Conspiracy killed him using the Conspiracy-owned Roman Empire.

Then the Conspiracy distorted/corrupted Christianity to suit them. I consider myself a Christian (albeit a deist one) but the truth is that the New Testament is at leat 80% conspiratorial and Satanic. It is in fact riddled with occultism.
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if you think God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are each different aspects of the same thing (Jesus was God in the flesh, etc) that is the Nicene creed.

if you think Jesus and the Holy Spirit are NOT the same thing as God (Jesus begotten by God then went to Earth, whereas God was not begotten, etc) that is the Arian creed.

there are bible scriptures to support both views.
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What other incentive would there be?

They have not been proven very effective, because it is impossible to "prove." Same as magick, impossible to prove.

Sure as shit works, though. Fact remains, you are casting magick whether you know it or not. I'm just throwing a tidbit to get you on the way to getting better at it.
 Quoting: LostInForever


Connecting with the Source of All. I'm not asking for shit, not that you would know anything about that. The proof is the visions/replies I've been recieving. Things that are verifiable, that I possible couldn't have known any other way. Small things, but with great implications.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


cruise

Magick 101. What you're doing is basically invocation, inviting what you call "the Source" into you.

You want something all right, and you're getting it: visions, knowledge. The core goal of all high magick.
 Quoting: LostInForever


No, it's not. I'm not inviting anything, and some of the visions I've had came prior to me inquiring about it in prayer. Only God knows what's in your heart and mind.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. You're still practicing evil, evil magick.
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Connecting with the Source of All. I'm not asking for shit, not that you would know anything about that. The proof is the visions/replies I've been recieving. Things that are verifiable, that I possible couldn't have known any other way. Small things, but with great implications.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


cruise

Magick 101. What you're doing is basically invocation, inviting what you call "the Source" into you.

You want something all right, and you're getting it: visions, knowledge. The core goal of all high magick.
 Quoting: LostInForever


No, it's not. I'm not inviting anything, and some of the visions I've had came prior to me inquiring about it in prayer. Only God knows what's in your heart and mind.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Whatever helps you sleep at night. You're still practicing evil, evil magick.
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This is what i was wrtting about. All neo-paganism is Illuminati. If they want to go pagan do it properly.
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if you think God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are each different aspects of the same thing (Jesus was God in the flesh, etc) that is the Nicene creed.

if you think Jesus and the Holy Spirit are NOT the same thing as God (Jesus begotten by God then went to Earth, whereas God was not begotten, etc) that is the Arian creed.

there are bible scriptures to support both views.
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No there are not. There are misinterpretations and questionable to support man-made doctrine perhaps, but Scripture clearly states God is one and the Messiah is not God. Heretical Roman creeds as you said.
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Show me some stuff
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Hello!! Not true!!

The Roman Empire made Christianity the official Roman religion but did not create Christianity. They created a counterfeit version of Christianity to control the Roman sheeple maybe but they did not create true Christianity!!
The early years of Christianity was based in Jerusalem.

True Christianity is not a religion it's a personal relationship with the living GOD through Jesus Christ in prayer!! Not some Roman Catholic Church Club that sheeple run to every Sunday!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


Are you a trinitarian?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Father + Son + Holy Spirit = GOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


God = YHWH, The Most High God

Jesus = the Messiah

Holy Spirit/ruach hakodesh = the Spirit God, the active force proceeding from God

trinitarianism = Roman heritage

trinitarianism = not monotheistic

trinitarianism = pagan roots

trinitarianism = daughter of Rome

God is One, not three
 Quoting: vedklyvare




1 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Colossians 2:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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Absolutely an abomination to God, for they worship the creation NOT the Creator.
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Connecting with the Source of All. I'm not asking for shit, not that you would know anything about that. The proof is the visions/replies I've been recieving. Things that are verifiable, that I possible couldn't have known any other way. Small things, but with great implications.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


cruise

Magick 101. What you're doing is basically invocation, inviting what you call "the Source" into you.

You want something all right, and you're getting it: visions, knowledge. The core goal of all high magick.
 Quoting: LostInForever


No, it's not. I'm not inviting anything, and some of the visions I've had came prior to me inquiring about it in prayer. Only God knows what's in your heart and mind.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Whatever helps you sleep at night. You're still practicing evil, evil magick.
 Quoting: LostInForever


Sure. Believe what you will (if that helps you sleep at night) and I'll do the same. Notice how your opinion doesn't matter to me. Funny how that is.
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cruise

Magick 101. What you're doing is basically invocation, inviting what you call "the Source" into you.

You want something all right, and you're getting it: visions, knowledge. The core goal of all high magick.
 Quoting: LostInForever


No, it's not. I'm not inviting anything, and some of the visions I've had came prior to me inquiring about it in prayer. Only God knows what's in your heart and mind.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Whatever helps you sleep at night. You're still practicing evil, evil magick.
 Quoting: LostInForever


This is what i was wrtting about. All neo-paganism is Illuminati. If they want to go pagan do it properly.
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I think you may have misread my intentions. I'm all for neo pagan, classical pagan barring the human sacrifice, Christian magic, Islamic magic, whatever. All a means to an end to me, and all equally valid and effective, provided the practitioner is skilled in focus and believes in it.
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Are you a trinitarian?
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Father + Son + Holy Spirit = GOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


God = YHWH, The Most High God

Jesus = the Messiah

Holy Spirit/ruach hakodesh = the Spirit God, the active force proceeding from God

trinitarianism = Roman heritage

trinitarianism = not monotheistic

trinitarianism = pagan roots

trinitarianism = daughter of Rome

God is One, not three
 Quoting: vedklyvare




1 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Colossians 2:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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[link to www.biblicalunitarian.com]

Funny how you also choose, not only to understand Scripture, but also to ignore all the the other verses affirming God is One. Jesus is the Messiah, not God. God is one, not three. Trinitarianism is a heritage of Rome, and the Greco-Roman and Babylonian pagan mystery religions. You can pretend to be separate from Rome all you want, but trinitarians are still daughters of Rome, adhering to the pagan doctrines invented in Roman ecumenical councils.

YHWH, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39

Hear, O Israel! YHWH is our God, YHWH is one!" Deuteronomy 6:4

Deut 4:39: Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that YHWH he is ELOHIM in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else

"I am YHWH, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5

Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God." Isaiah 45:14

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord Mark 12:29

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Father + Son + Holy Spirit = GOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


God = YHWH, The Most High God

Jesus = the Messiah

Holy Spirit/ruach hakodesh = the Spirit God, the active force proceeding from God

trinitarianism = Roman heritage

trinitarianism = not monotheistic

trinitarianism = pagan roots

trinitarianism = daughter of Rome

God is One, not three
 Quoting: vedklyvare




1 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Colossians 2:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


[link to www.biblicalunitarian.com]

Funny how you also choose, not only to understand Scripture, but also to ignore all the the other verses affirming God is One. Jesus is the Messiah, not God. God is one, not three. Trinitarianism is a heritage of Rome, and the Greco-Roman and Babylonian pagan mystery religions. You can pretend to be separate from Rome all you want, but trinitarians are still daughters of Rome, adhering to the pagan doctrines invented in Roman ecumenical councils.

YHWH, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39

Hear, O Israel! YHWH is our God, YHWH is one!" Deuteronomy 6:4

Deut 4:39: Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that YHWH he is ELOHIM in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else

"I am YHWH, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5

Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God." Isaiah 45:14

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord Mark 12:29
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Isaiah 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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God = YHWH, The Most High God

Jesus = the Messiah

Holy Spirit/ruach hakodesh = the Spirit God, the active force proceeding from God

trinitarianism = Roman heritage

trinitarianism = not monotheistic

trinitarianism = pagan roots

trinitarianism = daughter of Rome

God is One, not three
 Quoting: vedklyvare




1 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Colossians 2:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


[link to www.biblicalunitarian.com]

Funny how you also choose, not only to understand Scripture, but also to ignore all the the other verses affirming God is One. Jesus is the Messiah, not God. God is one, not three. Trinitarianism is a heritage of Rome, and the Greco-Roman and Babylonian pagan mystery religions. You can pretend to be separate from Rome all you want, but trinitarians are still daughters of Rome, adhering to the pagan doctrines invented in Roman ecumenical councils.

YHWH, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39

Hear, O Israel! YHWH is our God, YHWH is one!" Deuteronomy 6:4

Deut 4:39: Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that YHWH he is ELOHIM in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else

"I am YHWH, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5

Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God." Isaiah 45:14

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord Mark 12:29
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Isaiah 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Matthew 1:23

King James Version (KJV)

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
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God = YHWH, The Most High God

Jesus = the Messiah

Holy Spirit/ruach hakodesh = the Spirit God, the active force proceeding from God

trinitarianism = Roman heritage

trinitarianism = not monotheistic

trinitarianism = pagan roots

trinitarianism = daughter of Rome

God is One, not three
 Quoting: vedklyvare




1 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Colossians 2:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43136927


[link to www.biblicalunitarian.com]

Funny how you also choose, not only to understand Scripture, but also to ignore all the the other verses affirming God is One. Jesus is the Messiah, not God. God is one, not three. Trinitarianism is a heritage of Rome, and the Greco-Roman and Babylonian pagan mystery religions. You can pretend to be separate from Rome all you want, but trinitarians are still daughters of Rome, adhering to the pagan doctrines invented in Roman ecumenical councils.

YHWH, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39

Hear, O Israel! YHWH is our God, YHWH is one!" Deuteronomy 6:4

Deut 4:39: Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that YHWH he is ELOHIM in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else

"I am YHWH, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5

Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God." Isaiah 45:14

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord Mark 12:29
 Quoting: vedklyvare


Isaiah 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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I see you keep ignoring clear-cut, straightforward verses and cherry pick only the ones you like, how convinient. The trinity is of well-documented pagan origin. It's not monotheistic and it was grafted into Christianity by Rome. The one Jesus is calling Father is YHWH, the Most High God, and God is ONE.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4

Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Proverbs 30:5

The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6

"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29

In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. Mark 7:7

God is spirit John 4:24

God is not a man Numbers 23:19

God is not man [...] or a son of man Numbers 23:19

"But who do you say that I am?"

"You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God."

"Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven"

Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? Matthew 26:53

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever John 14:16

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32

For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother. Matthew 12:50

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. John 5:30

"Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." Luke 22:42



And no, Jesus isn't the Word (Logos) in John 1:1 either. And the plurality you think you see in genesis is pluralis majestatis and the translation of the word elohim.

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Rome created Christianity and Rome is the forth Beast of the Bible. Rome also crucified Christ. Almost all churches have a steeple on the top. The steeple is an oblisk. Washington and Rome have Oblisk all over them. Christianity uses the Bible but twist it and only teach what they are allowed.

Every Pagan I have ran across treated the ground they walked on as part of them and they did not trash it. They use herbs and everything God put on this planet for food and medicine. Most Christians go to the doctor to get a potion which the Bible warns against. Pagans did not follow what Rome was spreading and that is why they are outcast to Christians. I believe in Jesus and God but I will not partake in the Christian Church. Too many sheep that cannot think for themselves.

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I think you mean the Catholic Church? Much of the Catholic practices are not biblical!
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Catholics cobbled together the NT. It's their book. Hello, anybody hoooome?
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Hello!! Not true!!

The Roman Empire made Christianity the official Roman religion but did not create Christianity. They created a counterfeit version of Christianity to control the Roman sheeple maybe but they did not create true Christianity!!
The early years of Christianity was based in Jerusalem.

True Christianity is not a religion it's a personal relationship with the living GOD through Jesus Christ in prayer!! Not some Roman Catholic Church Club that sheeple run to every Sunday!!!
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Do you honestly think you know anything about Christianity that was not filtered through the Roman Catholic Church, yes it existed before them, but the New Testament did not, they created, hence where are you getting your teachings....

Wake up your version of Christianity is simply your way of not having to question the world around and try to fit in to your community even though you know it is a load of BS.....
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