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Vegan Mother Refuses Pediatrician's Advice....Arrested, Child in State Custody

 
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...a pediatrician told Markham that her baby needed to be admitted to Florida Hospital South for treatment because the child was dehydrated and was losing weight.

she wanted to get a second opinion about her child,

did not believe that her baby was dehydrated because the child was having bowel movements.

she did not give the formula/medicine that the doctor provided because she did not agree with the ingredients,

While en route to jail, Markham had a carefree attitude, even though she was told that she was not going to be allowed to see her child until a court hearing.

The baby was taken to Florida Hospital South for treatment and was placed into state custody.

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Re: Vegan Mother Refuses Pediatrician's Advice....Arrested, Child in State Custody
All your children are belong to us!

You are no longer the decision maker concerning your child's health.

Watch the video. They noticeably put down "natural" doctors and make anyone who would not want to give their children the hospital prescribed product, which contains animal by-products, out to be a criminal.

Because this woman did not go to the hospital immediately, police searched her out and took her baby!! Within an hour after leaving the pediatrician!

Have an emergency at home? Call the police? Risk being killed by them. Child isn't feeling well? Take the child to the doctor and risk losing the child to the state.

The police state is in full swing people.
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
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I'm not vegan and neither are my children, but NAZI much?
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
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I'm not vegan and neither are my children, but NAZI much?
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If being against child abuse is Naziism, then yes. I am a Nazi, but that has nothing to do with my opinion on these jokers.
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


I'm not vegan and neither are my children, but NAZI much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38357441


If being against child abuse is Naziism, then yes. I am a Nazi, but that has nothing to do with my opinion on these jokers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


Executed for wanting to have their children on a certain diet, a little extreme.
The state does not take care of children, they neglect and abuse them everyday.
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


I'm not vegan and neither are my children, but NAZI much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38357441


If being against child abuse is Naziism, then yes. I am a Nazi, but that has nothing to do with my opinion on these jokers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


forcing Veganism on your child is extreme, but what is alarming here is the speed at which it happened.

The way the news video makes her sound absolutely looney for wanting to give the baby soy formula and consulting a "natural" doctor.

and that within one hour they had the baby and the mother. We don't even know if the child was in any danger.
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Feeding you child soy anything is child abuse. Period. It is not fit for human consumption.
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this should be pinned for discussion. But instead we have the "how do you wipe your ass" thred. LOL
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


I'm not vegan and neither are my children, but NAZI much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38357441


If being against child abuse is Naziism, then yes. I am a Nazi, but that has nothing to do with my opinion on these jokers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


Choosing what to feed your children is child abuse? Anyone who isn't a clone of you is a joker.
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Feeding you child soy anything is child abuse. Period. It is not fit for human consumption.
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I believe in natural ingredients. I'm not a vegan. I don't see anything wrong with eating any food that is all-natural and chemical free. That is not easy to find these days.

Soy is marketed as a healthy alternative, so I don't think you could blame the mother for that.

People raise their kids on Coca-Cola and sugar coated honey-sweet sugar crisps with extra sugar!

This is about the state taking over parenting of children. Obviously pediatricians are being told to contact police if parents seem uncooperative with their advice. That is scary.
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The doc is a piece of trash scum bag.
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The baby was 12 days old and losing weight and dehydrated. Vegan Mom or not the formula was not agreeing the newborn and sounds like she didn't give a hoot.
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yeah I'm sure that doctor had some hidden agenda when coming to the conclusion the child was dehydrated ...

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besides if she's that -all natural- why not breastfeed? Oh right, its milk so it must be bad .... Vegans ....yeahsure

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yeah I'm sure that doctor had some hidden agenda when coming to the conclusion the child was dehydrated ...

yeahsure
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


I'm not saying the doctor misdiagnosed. Pediatricians these days have obviously been told to notify police if any parent questions their advice, this includes vaccines. The police were at her home within an hour. Apparently the "natural" doctor diagnosed the child as ok, but because she couldn't provide any "info" about the doctor except for his name, she was arrested.

They are trying to make anything "alternative" that is not state-sponsored to look like quackery.
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besides if she's that -all natural- why not breastfeed? Oh right, its milk so it must be bad .... Vegans ....yeahsure
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


Wait, What? They truly believe breastfeeding is bad. I thought they only think milk from cows is bad because they think it's inhumane.
Breastfeeding is the way to go, unless the mom is a crackhead!
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


I'm not vegan and neither are my children, but NAZI much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38357441


If being against child abuse is Naziism, then yes. I am a Nazi, but that has nothing to do with my opinion on these jokers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59342275


Executed for wanting to have their children on a certain diet, a little extreme.
The state does not take care of children, they neglect and abuse them everyday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38357441


some people put ideology above their children's health.
vegan food is not sufficient for growth.

sorry, it reminds me of women whose infants are starving on breastmilk alone.

Not every woman produces enough milk - that is why wet nurses existed, women who breastfed your children for you if needed.

but if a breastfeeding woman today needs to supplement with formula because her 4-month old is losing weight . . .

she is demonized by the breastfeeding dictators.

this sounds like a mother under the sway of vegan dictators.
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
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Kill animals, kill people... Just fucking kill yourself. The world would be a better place.
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besides if she's that -all natural- why not breastfeed? Oh right, its milk so it must be bad .... Vegans ....yeahsure
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


I was a nursing mother counselor for years, and a nurse.

some women WILL starve their own babies rather than admit they cannot produce enough milk.
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yeah I'm sure that doctor had some hidden agenda when coming to the conclusion the child was dehydrated ...

yeahsure
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


I'm not saying the doctor misdiagnosed. Pediatricians these days have obviously been told to notify police if any parent questions their advice, this includes vaccines. The police were at her home within an hour. Apparently the "natural" doctor diagnosed the child as ok, but because she couldn't provide any "info" about the doctor except for his name, she was arrested.

They are trying to make anything "alternative" that is not state-sponsored to look like quackery.
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If a 12 day old baby is losing weight and dehydrated obviously it is not doing well. Alternative my behind. The vegan formula did not agree with the baby whether the Mother wanted it to or not. Breastfeeding is the logical answer but maybe she is ill or on drugs. What kind of a Mother takes a dehydrated newborn home when a pediatrician thinks it needs hospitalization? Have nothing against vegans or alternative medicine but common sense has to be wedged in there.
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You should be fed to the pigs ... do the world a favor , and die.

Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
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yeah I'm sure that doctor had some hidden agenda when coming to the conclusion the child was dehydrated ...

yeahsure
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


I'm not saying the doctor misdiagnosed. Pediatricians these days have obviously been told to notify police if any parent questions their advice, this includes vaccines. The police were at her home within an hour. Apparently the "natural" doctor diagnosed the child as ok, but because she couldn't provide any "info" about the doctor except for his name, she was arrested.

They are trying to make anything "alternative" that is not state-sponsored to look like quackery.
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You are reading what you want to read and believing what you want to believe

ALL doctors have the obligation to report when parents are neglecting medical advise when the child is in danger .. and I'd say dehydration in babies is pretty fucking dangerous won't you agree? Better to be safe than sorry???

And who in their right mind would take some self proclaimed medicine mans advice over your doctors?!
Especially when you only know their name? Its pretty damn irresponsible! What makes you think these self proclaimed medicine men know what they are doing? In fact, what makes you so easy to trust a random stranger that CLAIMS he knows a this or that about natural medicine ... when there is absolutely no way she could confirm it.

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besides if she's that -all natural- why not breastfeed? Oh right, its milk so it must be bad .... Vegans ....yeahsure
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I was a nursing mother counselor for years, and a nurse.

some women WILL starve their own babies rather than admit they cannot produce enough milk.
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Because of vegan diet they don't have enough nutritions in their milk anyway

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Yeah feed the kid 2 big mac's and some greasy fries You dumb asses. Go eat a side of beef morans.
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besides if she's that -all natural- why not breastfeed? Oh right, its milk so it must be bad .... Vegans ....yeahsure
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout

Some vegans are so extreme they will not breastfeed because it is milk being produced by a mammal, they only want a plant based fake milk.
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I think the doctor was right. Forcing your child to be a vegan is child abuse.Child is missing important nutrients and can die. This parent is irresponsible and should be investigated or taught how to keep her baby healthy. I think doctor should have had warned the mother, that in case something won't change, the police will intervene.
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Yeah feed the kid 2 big mac's and some greasy fries You dumb asses. Go eat a side of beef morans.
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Some children may thrive on the vegan formula but others cannot tolerate it.
The baby was not gaining weight and was dehydrated so obviously a change was in order, whether it was breastmilk, a different vegan formula or a meat or dairy based formula. The babies health is the important thing and to stabilize the infant and find the right substance to nourish it at this fragile stage of its life.
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besides if she's that -all natural- why not breastfeed? Oh right, its milk so it must be bad .... Vegans ....yeahsure
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Some vegans are so extreme they will not breastfeed because it is milk being produced by a mammal, they only want a plant based fake milk.
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Good. Dumbshit vegans who try to feed their kids vegan are child abusers and should be executed.
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I'm not vegan and neither are my children, but NAZI much?
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Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian. There is no such thing as a "Nazi" in real life -- that's just some jewish fairy tale you've absorbed through religious adherence to your Talmudvision programming.

It's called National Socialism.
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I agree 306 it's probable breast milk was an answer or possibly another formula, however the Dr. was a Nazi POS. This was America (once upon a time).

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