Vegan Mother Refuses Pediatrician's Advice....Arrested, Child in State Custody

Yes, extreme vegans believe breastfeeding is bad. They refuse to breastfeed their own babies because the milk is coming from a live being. By extreme vegan I mean they refuse eggs, dairy, and even honey.

It still is America, that's why the jewish medical establishment took this woman's child away. She wasn't interested in using the jewish-made formula from the jewish-owned pharmacy.

What "Nazis" have to do with it, outside of cartoon imagery you have in your head and must reinforce in others for your world view to make sense [i.e. constantly looking for the "next, next, next Hitler!!!!11], isn't particularly clear.

You are the stereo typical blind fool.

That isn't an "extreme vegan", it's a perfectly normal vegan. Vegan means no animal products.

There's nothing inherently needed about honey, dairy, or eggs.

They just have to get their nutrition from other sources.

Whatever you say OH wise one.
NAZI is a shortened version of national socialist.

No, it isn't a shortened version of anything. It's a made up jewish perjorative coined in the now-bankrupt and failing Jewnited Snakes of America.

It is National Socialism or nothing.

Oh my, you just made yourself appear foolish.

If the term wasn't used by the NSDAP, it isn't genuine or relevant.

And some actually half the formula, because others give her that advice, listening to peers and endangering baby, instead of following directions.

There are many reasons why a child is losing weight.

I wonder why she wasn't nursing?

Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 06/26/2014 07:32 AM

Being vegan is a crime but feeding children mcdonalds burgers that don't rot after one year of being left in the sun is okay? Potato chips, Trix cereal,and donuts for breakfast is okay? But a.mother who cares about their child's health is committing a crime ? That is very f...ked up!

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How is it that we give out billions in food stamp money that is turned over to meglo retailers for cheap processed poison foods? Do we take their kids away for being obese and diabetic at age 4? Learning Disabilities from the chemicals? No we just throw more money and housing at them. Throw some more pills at them.

I have a new grandbaby. I am about to ring the peds neck. If they told me the things they are telling the babies mother when my kids were babies? Um NO. Last visit they had to bring in two doctors to "counsel" her because the baby prefers to sleep on his stomach. Baby is going to die they tell her if she keeps letting him sleep that way. If that were the case? My kids would not be here today. Babies sleep how a baby sleeps. It will lie in the position it is most comfortable in.

Could it be because at 3 months they already have him on 3 prescribed medications? Worried he is so dazed out he won't be able to lift his head? Why is he already on 3 medications? Because the doctor prescribed formula is wreaking havoc on his system. She has asked to change formulas. Because she is on WIC doc would need to literally prescribe the non-corn syrup one. They won't because well that would mean less money for them. If the baby is healthy the doctor is needed less.

Please somebody tell me why my grand baby is suffering just to eat and the doctors refuse to help in a merciful way and keep telling the parents that it is normal for babies to suffer this much just trying to eat?

My kids did not suffer. I breast fed and supplemented as needed. They did not suffer to eat. No baby should have to be in pain to eat. It is the ingredients in the formulas themselves causing it.

I wholeheartedly agree! Don't soy beans have to be acid washed before being processed? Plus they are GMO.

In residency, I was a part of a team that took care of a ~ 12 month old girl that had been fed a vegan diet by her mother. She was weak and listless and ill. Her immune system was shot. She was very under weight. The worse thing was that she was developmentally delayed (in other words she likely would grow up to be "mentally retarded").

This is not necessary. Look at all the Hindu mothers that raise their children to be brilliant researchers, doctors, etc. But there must be thought and care with their diet. It must be balanced with necessary amino acids and minerals.

Many adult vegans do not realize that infants have additional needs. The should be educated by nutritionists with experience in this field.

I hope that this child was caught in time.

I also don't agree with the ingredients in baby formula - why is maltodextran added to a child's food, EVER???

But if you won't breast feed your child until 1 year of age, then something other than a strict vegan diet is necessary in most cases.

Sudden infant death has been decreased by 50% with the simple change of putting an infant to sleep on their back. Will all infants that sleep on their stomachs die of SIDS? No. Were you lucky? Yes.

We cannot know which child in likely to suffer from SIDS when they sleep prone. We just have to look at the big picture, and the big picture shows that the "Back to Sleep" campaign has been a big success in the prevention of SIDS.

The tummy ache from formula could be due to lactose intolerance.

Breast is best for digestion, but if you must feed formula, then a lactose reduced or lactose free one may help. Ask you provider for a change on WIC and if they don't do this, ask for another provider.

Doctors do not receive money for WIC prescriptions or lack thereof.

We also, do not get our kicks from making kids sick, and trust me, we would love to work ourselves out of a job!

Mom should have breast fed - then it would be a moot point all around.

Let me get this straight...

This is a newborn and it was dehydrated?

I don't suppose anyone ever told that vegan twat what her tits were for???

yes, babies die on vegan diet, or vegan nursing mom. for once, i feel for the docs. no tribe of successful, healthy people was ever vegan. animal foods are necessary. vegetarian can do. but not vegan. especially during the preg/lactation/growth years

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Did we ever have any rights when it came to our kids?

I realized when I was pregnant about 20 years ago that we didn't. The doctors and hospitals had the control. I was pregnant with twins so I couldn't even chose to have a mid wife. Hospitals policy's have to be taken, no chose.

When my mom had kids in the 50's they didn't have a choice either. No fathers in the delivery room and mother's were unconscious for delivery. Things changed somewhat in the 60's. Father's were allowed in in the 70's.

Maybe in the 50's it was still easier to have the chose to deliver your kids at home, but not many would really want to go that way.

In the middle ages people had midwives too and their advice was taken VERY seriously.

So vegans wouldn't breast feed because their milk was from an animal?

Seems strange.

They don't eat anything that comes from a living creature, or a dead one for that matter

they only eat plants and anything derived from plants

It's just strange. You think of vegans as being closer to nature (hippie like) and breast feeding is very natural.

It's also obviously made for the baby.

the best choice is breast milk from a non-vegan mother.

vegan breast milk won't be sufficient.

the second best choice would be donated breast milk.

the third best choice would be home-made formula, there are two recipes in the book Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon--THEY ARE NOT VEGAN

the forth best choice would be your typical milk based formula

and avoid soy at all costs.

I think veganism is a mental disease and raising a child
as a vegan is child abuse study after study has shown
what a growing child need and if a vegan wants to deprive them of this because of some wacko belief then they are abusing that child.

If you are a non extreme vegan then you are a vegetarion
nothing wrong with that at all

agreed

I know what you mean but, an adult should be able to make decisions on their own orientation, a child should not be imposed such stupidity as veganism.

That can't be true.

This seems to be an extreme case. According to the other linked article a baby died because vegan mother who still breastfed the baby. The article stated B12 and Vitamin A deficiency.

I checked out a few items that I prefer over animal products and found that silk almond milk contains 50% RDI in one serving of Vit B12, and 10% RDI of Vitamin A. I just checked my clif bar from this morning: 30% RDI Vitamin A and 15% RDI B12.

Fortunately there are a few 'vegan' options for B12 unless you also refuse to consume a byproduct of bacteria (which is what B12 is).

For vitamin A your body can convert carotenoids (which some plants have plenty of) by consuming fats. Some vegetables with good amount of fats include Avocado, Almonds, Brazilian nuts, etc.

I've researched into the vegan option as I've completely modified my diet to eliminate processed foods and have about 2-3 vegetarian days a week, 2-3 days only consuming fish for meat, and 1-2 cheat days.

There are so many myths surrounding vegan/vegetarian diets, and the worst myth is the protein / amino acid myth. You can do the research yourself, and find that nuts, seeds, beans, etc ARE complete sources of protein and you can get all 9 essential amino acids from those sources in high enough amounts to provide 100% of your RDI. I found a website:

[link to nutritiondata.self.com]

which allows you to lookup various foods, and you can open a breakdown menu in the protein area, and it'll show you the approximate mg amounts in different servings of foods including produce and nuts, beans, etc.

Soy = Monsanto = big lobby/bribe $ = Gov loves them.

They would never arrest a woman for feeding her baby soy, aspertame, high fructose corn syrup or antibiotic/hormone ridden meat with lax oversight of conditions it's raised in.

But a vegan diet? Criminal

Don't you know people hate breastfeeders too? It's apparently disgusting to see a woman feed publicly...but a woman can wear a stick on thong and pasties on her nipples and men would cheer.

A lot of you need to educate yourselves. Certified organic soy is GMO FREE. Whole foods brand soy is certified organic, and they sell many GMO FREE soy products.

When people say 90% of soy products in the USA are GMO soy...just look at half of the processed crap you eat, it's f'ing everywhere from mayonnaise to ketchup to bbq sauce to frozen burritos, etc. This is why I have removed processed foods out of my diet by 99%.