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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24523590 United States 06/26/2014 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to a retired FXX agent specializing in Israeli counter intel: The type of nuclear devices used on 911 were a modified version of the W-54 nuclear artillery shells that were covertly provided to the Israelis between 1988 and 1998 from US surplus stockpiles illegally exported during the Bush/Clinton era. Quoting: train Chemical analysis done by DOE Sandi was able to identify the chemical/radiation footprint or fingerprint of the warheads based on samples taken after 911 of the fallout at ground zero. (Editor’s note: Nuclear weapon use at ground zero is confirmed from multiple sources) snip: [link to www.pakalertpress.com] And of course, we'll do absolutely nothing like good little Goyems. Your globalist controlled government did it to get us in to wars of profit and create the Islamic boogie man. This was done to take away our right through more security and eventually usher in the one world order symbolized by the two divided building coming down and one going back up as the one world trade center. This was planned years ago as requested by David Rockefeller. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 204556 United States 06/26/2014 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | US secretly selling nukes worldwide via Israel Posted on May 23, 2014 by Jolly Roger Press TV In 2008, Houston police pulled over CIA agent Roland Carnaby on what appeared to be a routine traffic stop. A few seconds later, Carnaby was dead. It is illegal to detain a CIA agent under any circumstances. They may carry any weapon, anywhere, anytime, and request assistance from any law enforcement official with more than certainty. Why then would this incident be part of a highly classified Russian intelligence report? Could it, perhaps, be that Carnaby, answering directly to former President and CIA Director, George H.W. Bush, was murdered to silence his participation in the theft and sale of American nuclear warheads? Carnaby was holding a trove of documents outlining the theft and transfer of hundreds of nuclear warheads from the Pantex Plant near Amarillo, Texas. Weapons sent there for disassembly were transshipped to Israel and, from there, refurbished, their cores remachined and then sold around the world or stored in Israeli embassies and consulates around the world. The Russian report outlines a very different view of the past 30 years, a “view” that “fits like a glove.” DIMONA OUT OF ACTION The report not only confirms Israel’s nuclear weapon inventory but outlines the program of subterfuge and piracy required to keep Israel as a nuclear power after their facility at Dimona suffered a critical “event” in 1988. “Dimona is a standard 75-megawatt thermal open top reactor as used in France for their plutonium weapons production program, their version of Stanford (Editor’s note: Probably “Hanford”). Due to overuse as a fast breeder reactor by the Israelis, Dimona suffered a “steam explosion” IE a flash over indecent due to neutron criticality back in the late 1980′s under Bush 1. This shut down its operation for many years until repairs could be made. It know only operates at very low power levels due to neutron absorption damage to the containment vessel. Now mainly use for isotope production. This forced the Israelis to turn to stolen nuclear stockpiles from the US for the continuation of their nuclear program.” The highly classified Russian report, released, experts believe, to demonstrate American hypocrisy over recent events in the Ukraine, is a litany of horror stories. If this is a “first shot over the bow” by Russian intelligence, American officials can only dread what may be to come. BACKGROUND 48 hours ago, the retired chief of Russia’s counter-intelligence effort for the Middle East released a highly classified report designed to embarrass the United States and demonstrate their servitude to Israel and complicity in broad acts of nuclear proliferation. The report, loaded with “shock value” intelligence and backed by reams of supporting documents including classified nuclear weapons plans demonstrated that Russia has been able to maintain a high level of penetration of not just American nuclear weapons labs but security agencies as well. ROUND ONE, 9/11 The report, carefully structured for maximum shock value, begins with 9/11, the watershed event of our era: “The type of nuclear devices used on 911 were a modified version of the W-54 nuclear artillery shells that were covertly provided to the Israelis between 1988 and 1998 from US surplus stockpiles illegally exported during the Bush/Clinton era. Chemical analysis done by DOE Sandi was able to identify the chemical/radiation footprint or fingerprint of the warheads based on samples taken after 911 of the fallout at ground zero.” According to the report, 911 was an Israeli operation facilitated by blackmail of Bush 41 and 43, threatening them with “outing” for their personal financial involvement in the sale of 350 primarily w54 nuclear artillery rounds, sold through Israel but distributed to a number of nations. The Russian report further outlines that NATO partners, particularly Britain and France, were involved every step of the way. 911 was cover for stolen gold, stock fraud and the looting of the American economy. The “wars for profit” were the Bush boys cashing in on their own. THE “HOW” OF 911 A number of theories have been introduced to explain the mysterious effects seen at ground zero on 9/11. In an article on the Press TV website, evidence of a widespread cover-up of an epidemic of radiation exposure-related cancers tied to 9/11, was presented. Not only has Russia confirmed the Press TV findings, they present evidence of nuclear weapons use, evidence from a suppressed report based on findings by the Department of Energy’s Sandia Laboratories. “Only a 2 kiloton device was needed to drop the buildings. A 2 kiloton device will produce a fireball of apx 150 to 200 feet in diameter at over 4000 degrees Centigrade. Just large enough to melt the I beams of the central core of the building and drop them in place. The light flash would last less than 1 second and primarily be in the UV light range. Overpressure would only be at 60PSI max and directed upwards with the blast. Fallout would be minimal and located to within ground zero range only. Radiation would drop to acceptable levels within 72 hrs. after the blast. Most fall out was trapped in the cement dust thus causing all of the recent cancer deaths that we are now seeing in NYC amongst first responders.” The report continues with details that close the door on speculation about 9/11, putting an end to conspiracy theories and, in particular, the wildest one of all, the pseudo-science fairy tale broadly rejected by the 9/11 Commission but allowed to stand as America descended into an Islamophobic frenzy. “Fallout would be minimal and located to within ground zero range only. Radiation would drop to acceptable levels within 72 hrs. after the blast. Most fall out was trapped in the cement dust thus causing all of the recent cancer deaths that we are now seeing in NYC amongst first responders. Melted steel and iron oxide or “nano thermite” is a byproduct of the very high gamma ray / Neutron flux induced into the central steel core. The radiation dissolves the steel into iron oxide consuming the carbon and silicone in the steel.” This explains the missing steel columns and the very important clue of the “vaporized” 20 ton antenna tower atop the south tower. The upward blast of radiation literally vaporized it. Video evidence proves this to be true. The total (redacted) data file from DOE Sandia on the 911 event is well over 72 MB. “P.S. Snowden didn’t have a Q clearance so he missed this one.” The scope of the Bush/Cheney/Israeli nuclear proliferation operation, according to the report, is well beyond anything imagined. Here, Russia places the blame, naming not only Vice President Dick Cheney and former White House Chief of Staff Ram Emanuel but Tom Countryman, tasked, according to Russian sources, with actually managing the program that spread nuclear weapons to Brazil, North and South Korea, Saudi Arabia and a number of other nations. “Illegal distribution of US nuclear material to foreign allies was not limited to Israel. Virtually all NATO allies were in on this scam too. Dick Cheney was the bad guy on this one. Bush2/Cheney traded nuclear pits to foreign country as IOU’s in order to get what they wanted. Tom Countryman a well-known Israeli operative is curiously now in charge of N.N.P. at the State Department under Obama. He was put there by Ram Emanuel.” REACTIVATING “DEAD NUKES” Only nuclear weapons that had deteriorated but could be recommissioned were of use to Israel. The Russian report outlines the basis for selecting the W-54 warhead and exacting details on how weapons were created out of America’s “nuclear scrap heap.” “A total of over 350 pits were transferred to the Israelis over a 10 to 20 year period of time. The W-54 type of pit design were the most desirable due to the 2 point implosion pit design. This is the easiest to re manufacture and modify as compared to other circular pit designs. The pill shaped design of the W-54 type weapon contains over 1.5 times more plutonium than a standard pit. This would allow enough Plutonium to be recovered that was still of weapons grade use even after 32 plus years of age. Americium build up in the pit over time eventually makes the Pit unusable as a weapon so they have a limited shelf life based on how fast or slow the Plutonium was produce in the reactor at Stanford. Usually it was about 150 days max. Irradiation time in the reactor during production determines the shelf life of the pit as weapons grade material. All of the micro nukes used by the Israelis are re-manufactured W-54 type series devices.” CONCLUSION According to the Russian report, Israel used remanufactured W-54 warheads, reconfigured as micro-nukes, for terror bombings in Bali, London and to destroy the Fukashima nuclear reaction site in Japan. With weapons around the world, stored in embassies and consulates, and their powerful friends in the American “right,” Israel has managed to maintain nuclear superpower status without a real production facility, using only pirates and traitors, something America, according to our Russian sources, seems to have no shortage of. NN [link to www.presstv.ir] |
Inhiding User ID: 1281769 United States 06/26/2014 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] A similar theory. There was a nuke underneath the trade center for decades as a means of demolishing it. Nuclear demolition is a thing that's occurred plenty of times in history, nukes have even been used for fraking in the past. It's outlandish, but it's the only theory that explains how the towers were simply pulverized. Last Edited by Save The Sears Tower on 06/26/2014 05:41 PM |
Interdimensional*Warrior User ID: 59647831 United States 06/26/2014 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jew whirled odor....i told you here on glp on 9/11/01 that jews did 911. it is possible that a nuclear device was used to create a creator for the building materiel to fall into. it was an extremely difficult controlled demolition to plan and could not have been fr9m aircraft impact or res6lting fires. 4he planes were used only for theater, so it could be blamed on muslims. to illustrate how successful the psy-op was, one only look at the anti-muslim sentiment it created. people who know Israeli did 911 hate muslims because of 911. dumbasses all |
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Silence Dogooder User ID: 56158829 United States 06/26/2014 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The area would glow and be radioactive for some time, even now. The structure was weakened from within the box beam structural supports until it just accordioned, it wasnt blown apart it was made to collapse. There is no evidence of anything nearly as powerful as a nuclear explosion. Anyone that knows anything knows that explosion wasnt a feature of the collapse, it was a generalized top down softening of the major structural supports. Several researchers have proven that there is evidence in the dust that a specialized military grade of Nano thermites were used to take down all three buildings. I once also believed in Santa Claus so it is OK if you still believe that there in "no evidence". vita, libertà e felicità |
Guess Who2 User ID: 36652742 United States 06/26/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The area would glow and be radioactive for some time, even now. The structure was weakened from within the box beam structural supports until it just accordioned, it wasnt blown apart it was made to collapse. There is no evidence of anything nearly as powerful as a nuclear explosion. Anyone that knows anything knows that explosion wasnt a feature of the collapse, it was a generalized top down softening of the major structural supports. Then how do explain that metal or steel spire turning to dust before your eyes and then just blowing in the wind and then poof it was gone???!! Something strange was used that day thats for sure... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 06/26/2014 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if that huge post holds any truth? Quoting: Heed I'm curious if nano thermite is in any way related to a nuclear explosion. I didn't know the full story about the guys stopped on the bridge until now. I listened to the interview with the cop that spotted the van. Some but not on most the technical details about what would happen if detonated in place. Explosions expand in all directions and not just up. There is not one single identifiable characteristic of a nuc explosion in any videos of the event. The bullshit about the building turned to dust is just bullshit, there is very little actual structural concrete used outside of the facade and the floors which only use a few inches over steel sheet and some in the various elevator shafts but much less than you'd think. You have to keep in mind that the device being described still generates 600 TONS equivalent of TNT each which would literally make the building disappear in a huge sun like flash. It's pretty hard to hide a second sun approximately a half kilometer sized ball from the news cameras. If you watch the videos the so called explosions are the symmetrical pancaking of one floor smacking into the one beneath it as each section of the central support column grid collapse from being superheated from within and then running down the inside of the box beams to repeat the process over and over and over all the way down. You can watch the antenna tower ride down with the top of the building that falls as terminal velocity from the very beginning. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 06/26/2014 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The area would glow and be radioactive for some time, even now. The structure was weakened from within the box beam structural supports until it just accordioned, it wasnt blown apart it was made to collapse. There is no evidence of anything nearly as powerful as a nuclear explosion. Anyone that knows anything knows that explosion wasnt a feature of the collapse, it was a generalized top down softening of the major structural supports. Then how do explain that metal or steel spire turning to dust before your eyes and then just blowing in the wind and then poof it was gone???!! Something strange was used that day thats for sure... Simple It didnt and you are misrepresenting a lie as fact because you know most wont look at it for themselves. I watched the tower ride its way down, it didnt vaporize. You realize that towers are essentially made as light as possible from the lightest metal possible dont you? |
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sararyan User ID: 41174631 Lithuania 06/26/2014 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The minimum yield of a so called mini nuc is about 600 TONS of TNT, not something that can be contained in a basement. The blind sheiks truck bomb was maybe a ton of inferior low to moderate explosive and that was instantly evident and weakened the building and poured smoke out of the building.\ So the real question is how do you hide a 600 to 2000 TON TNT equivalent device in a basement closet while first responders run in and out? The obvious answer is you CANT. It's all disinfo to take the eyes off of the only people who had the opportunity to benefit from the event individually and as a tribe and country. He does not say who did it, because it's obvious who benefited from this event. By the way what is your experience with nuclear devices that you have credibility to deny his explanations? usa used many such nuclear tipped missiles in Afghanistan and ira since 9/11...I have seen medical reports that show 100 times more incidents of birth defects and cancers in Afghanistan and Iraqi areas bombed by uranium laced shells....the reports were on net also.but may have vanished by now Bullshit, if there was any evidence your kind would be waving it around. Anyone with any sophistication can detect atmospheric detonations and fingerprint them to the country of origin. Your kind practices incest and that's why you have so many congenital idiots and defectives not to mention poor diet and poor hygiene. Most of you dont even have basic sanitation. Nice try. You have plenty of idiots and it's because you earned each and every one of them. Nice try You can not be more obvious. Is there air conditioning in the room where you sit right know? Look it up. By the way what does a professional and trained for decades engineer in these highly delicate subjects as you mentioned before do on lunatics forum? You just attack others and deny facts. Could you prove your nuclear engineer background, or at least name agencies you worked for? I thought so. Last Edited by sararyan on 06/26/2014 06:15 PM |
Heed User ID: 57482000 United States 06/26/2014 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if that huge post holds any truth? Quoting: Heed I'm curious if nano thermite is in any way related to a nuclear explosion. I didn't know the full story about the guys stopped on the bridge until now. I listened to the interview with the cop that spotted the van. Some but not on most the technical details about what would happen if detonated in place. Explosions expand in all directions and not just up. There is not one single identifiable characteristic of a nuc explosion in any videos of the event. The bullshit about the building turned to dust is just bullshit, there is very little actual structural concrete used outside of the facade and the floors which only use a few inches over steel sheet and some in the various elevator shafts but much less than you'd think. You have to keep in mind that the device being described still generates 600 TONS equivalent of TNT each which would literally make the building disappear in a huge sun like flash. It's pretty hard to hide a second sun approximately a half kilometer sized ball from the news cameras. If you watch the videos the so called explosions are the symmetrical pancaking of one floor smacking into the one beneath it as each section of the central support column grid collapse from being superheated from within and then running down the inside of the box beams to repeat the process over and over and over all the way down. You can watch the antenna tower ride down with the top of the building that falls as terminal velocity from the very beginning. I did a lot of research years ago. I know there were demolition squibs and there was molten metal pouring out of the building. I was just entertaining the possibility of a combiantion. I have no idea how nuclear tech has evolved nor does anyone here most likely. I agree there's no way to direct a nuclear blast in a structure like that, so I guess that completely disproves the idea. One thing that stood out for me was that I use an oxy acetylene torch to melt steel, I don't go the to air port and buy jet fuel. Also someone did a test at their home posting results of thermite on steel columns. I believe it was speculated that thermate was used solely or in conjunction with thermite. There was a picture of a firefighter with a column behind his head the angle and slag on the sides of it told the story. Last Edited by Heed on 06/26/2014 06:17 PM |
Interdimensional*Warrior User ID: 59647831 United States 06/26/2014 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if that huge post holds any truth? Quoting: Heed I'm curious if nano thermite is in any way related to a nuclear explosion. I didn't know the full story about the guys stopped on the bridge until now. I listened to the interview with the cop that spotted the van. Some but not on most the technical details about what would happen if detonated in place. Explosions expand in all directions and not just up. There is not one single identifiable characteristic of a nuc explosion in any videos of the event. The bullshit about the building turned to dust is just bullshit, there is very little actual structural concrete used outside of the facade and the floors which only use a few inches over steel sheet and some in the various elevator shafts but much less than you'd think. You have to keep in mind that the device being described still generates 600 TONS equivalent of TNT each which would literally make the building disappear in a huge sun like flash. It's pretty hard to hide a second sun approximately a half kilometer sized ball from the news cameras. If you watch the videos the so called explosions are the symmetrical pancaking of one floor smacking into the one beneath it as each section of the central support column grid collapse from being superheated from within and then running down the inside of the box beams to repeat the process over and over and over all the way down. You can watch the antenna tower ride down with the top of the building that falls as terminal velocity from the very beginning. there are 'exotic' nukes that could be a very low explosive yield that cause damage by releasing high velocity neutrons. this can cause heating as well as disintegration |
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sararyan User ID: 41174631 Lithuania 06/26/2014 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The area would glow and be radioactive for some time, even now. The structure was weakened from within the box beam structural supports until it just accordioned, it wasnt blown apart it was made to collapse. There is no evidence of anything nearly as powerful as a nuclear explosion. Anyone that knows anything knows that explosion wasnt a feature of the collapse, it was a generalized top down softening of the major structural supports. Then how do explain that metal or steel spire turning to dust before your eyes and then just blowing in the wind and then poof it was gone???!! Something strange was used that day thats for sure... Simple It didnt and you are misrepresenting a lie as fact because you know most wont look at it for themselves. I watched the tower ride its way down, it didnt vaporize. You realize that towers are essentially made as light as possible from the lightest metal possible dont you? That metal was few times thicker than a tank armor, it doesn't vaporize to dust on it's own my dear friend. Last Edited by sararyan on 06/26/2014 06:18 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 06/26/2014 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: sararyan He does not say who did it, because it's obvious who benefited from this event. By the way what is your experience with nuclear devices that you have credibility to deny his explanations? usa used many such nuclear tipped missiles in Afghanistan and ira since 9/11...I have seen medical reports that show 100 times more incidents of birth defects and cancers in Afghanistan and Iraqi areas bombed by uranium laced shells....the reports were on net also.but may have vanished by now Bullshit, if there was any evidence your kind would be waving it around. Anyone with any sophistication can detect atmospheric detonations and fingerprint them to the country of origin. Your kind practices incest and that's why you have so many congenital idiots and defectives not to mention poor diet and poor hygiene. Most of you dont even have basic sanitation. Nice try. You have plenty of idiots and it's because you earned each and every one of them. Nice try You can not be more obvious. Is there air conditioning in the room where you sit right know? Look it up. By the way what does a professional and trained for decades engineer in these highly delicate subjects as you mentioned before do on lunatics forum? You just attack others and deny facts. Could you prove your nuclear engineer background, or at least name agencies you worked for? I thought so. Why do I do this? I'm an old cripple, I have all the time in the world to try and counter Marxists, Putanists and other similar professional liars while I wait to die. I don't get out much so I do this to keep my mind in better places. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 06/26/2014 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The area would glow and be radioactive for some time, even now. The structure was weakened from within the box beam structural supports until it just accordioned, it wasnt blown apart it was made to collapse. There is no evidence of anything nearly as powerful as a nuclear explosion. Anyone that knows anything knows that explosion wasnt a feature of the collapse, it was a generalized top down softening of the major structural supports. Then how do explain that metal or steel spire turning to dust before your eyes and then just blowing in the wind and then poof it was gone???!! Something strange was used that day thats for sure... Simple It didnt and you are misrepresenting a lie as fact because you know most wont look at it for themselves. I watched the tower ride its way down, it didnt vaporize. You realize that towers are essentially made as light as possible from the lightest metal possible dont you? That metal was few times thicker than a tank armor, it doesn't vaporize to dust on it's own my dear friend. So, fool, you think an antenna on top of a building is made of metal thicker than tank armor? What kind armor HRA, reactive armor, 6Al4V titanuim armor? What kind armor do you make radioantenna towers out of? |
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sararyan User ID: 41174631 Lithuania 06/26/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Guess Who2 Then how do explain that metal or steel spire turning to dust before your eyes and then just blowing in the wind and then poof it was gone???!! Something strange was used that day thats for sure... Simple It didnt and you are misrepresenting a lie as fact because you know most wont look at it for themselves. I watched the tower ride its way down, it didnt vaporize. You realize that towers are essentially made as light as possible from the lightest metal possible dont you? That metal was few times thicker than a tank armor, it doesn't vaporize to dust on it's own my dear friend. So, fool, you think an antenna on top of a building is made of metal thicker than tank armor? What kind armor HRA, reactive armor, 6Al4V titanuim armor? What kind armor do you make radioantenna towers out of? My english is quite bad, but what the f are you talking about? radioantenna? jeeez .... obvious. |
Interdimensional*Warrior User ID: 59647831 United States 06/26/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59661232 usa used many such nuclear tipped missiles in Afghanistan and ira since 9/11...I have seen medical reports that show 100 times more incidents of birth defects and cancers in Afghanistan and Iraqi areas bombed by uranium laced shells....the reports were on net also.but may have vanished by now Bullshit, if there was any evidence your kind would be waving it around. Anyone with any sophistication can detect atmospheric detonations and fingerprint them to the country of origin. Your kind practices incest and that's why you have so many congenital idiots and defectives not to mention poor diet and poor hygiene. Most of you dont even have basic sanitation. Nice try. You have plenty of idiots and it's because you earned each and every one of them. Nice try You can not be more obvious. Is there air conditioning in the room where you sit right know? Look it up. By the way what does a professional and trained for decades engineer in these highly delicate subjects as you mentioned before do on lunatics forum? You just attack others and deny facts. Could you prove your nuclear engineer background, or at least name agencies you worked for? I thought so. Why do I do this? I'm an old cripple, I have all the time in the world to try and counter Marxists, Putanists and other similar professional liars while I wait to die. I don't get out much so I do this to keep my mind in better places. what is a neutron weapon and how does it work? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46660317 United States 06/26/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The area would glow and be radioactive for some time, even now. The structure was weakened from within the box beam structural supports until it just accordioned, it wasnt blown apart it was made to collapse. There is no evidence of anything nearly as powerful as a nuclear explosion. Anyone that knows anything knows that explosion wasnt a feature of the collapse, it was a generalized top down softening of the major structural supports. Holy shill. Funny how they act like they're speaking facts while saying nothing but bullshit. This might be the most laughable disinfo attempt I've seen in years. "It would still be glowing," "anyone that knows anything knows.... softening of the structural supports." Hahaha wtf? You sound like NIST. Get a life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59674455 Malaysia 06/26/2014 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israeli nukes on 9/11 ... nah. I see more and better evidence for Yanks using neutron bomb in '03 when their special forces were taking significant causalities at, and could not take, Baghdad Airport. They burned all the dead on both sides, trucked in massive amounts of dirt and gravel not from the region. Very weird. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 06/26/2014 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if that huge post holds any truth? Quoting: Heed I'm curious if nano thermite is in any way related to a nuclear explosion. I didn't know the full story about the guys stopped on the bridge until now. I listened to the interview with the cop that spotted the van. Some but not on most the technical details about what would happen if detonated in place. Explosions expand in all directions and not just up. There is not one single identifiable characteristic of a nuc explosion in any videos of the event. The bullshit about the building turned to dust is just bullshit, there is very little actual structural concrete used outside of the facade and the floors which only use a few inches over steel sheet and some in the various elevator shafts but much less than you'd think. You have to keep in mind that the device being described still generates 600 TONS equivalent of TNT each which would literally make the building disappear in a huge sun like flash. It's pretty hard to hide a second sun approximately a half kilometer sized ball from the news cameras. If you watch the videos the so called explosions are the symmetrical pancaking of one floor smacking into the one beneath it as each section of the central support column grid collapse from being superheated from within and then running down the inside of the box beams to repeat the process over and over and over all the way down. You can watch the antenna tower ride down with the top of the building that falls as terminal velocity from the very beginning. there are 'exotic' nukes that could be a very low explosive yield that cause damage by releasing high velocity neutrons. this can cause heating as well as disintegration Not so. They arent designed to damage structures, they are expensive and expensive. I dont have to prove a negative and I can prove every aspect of Thermite without resorting to magic or unknown technology. You disinformationalists cannot prove your points, you cannot identify your materials, you cannot even honestly describe the conditions, you cannot account for the real time images that show a building collapsing from the top down. None of you claims can match the obvious visible facts. Thats why you lie and misrepresent every aspect and resort to obviously ridiculous claims to discredit the entire truther movement. Knowing what I know I started out to disprove the truthers and instead learned I was wrong in believing any part of the official story. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28984039 United States 06/26/2014 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | some rare info out of my stash collected over the years following 9/11 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55743029 from [link to portland.indymedia.org] ... Quoting: ISRAELIS were 9-11 short sale stock buyers, betting on WTC terror strikes, story killed...Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars. ... Bush, Sr. had a fortune in bonds due for redemption that day or the day after. The stock exchange closed for a few days during which these bonds secretly cleared. A lot of strange stuff coincided with that date. I don't remember the reason they wanted no one to know about the bonds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59569017 Canada 06/26/2014 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59569017 The area would glow and be radioactive for some time, even now. The structure was weakened from within the box beam structural supports until it just accordioned, it wasnt blown apart it was made to collapse. There is no evidence of anything nearly as powerful as a nuclear explosion. Anyone that knows anything knows that explosion wasnt a feature of the collapse, it was a generalized top down softening of the major structural supports. Holy shill. Funny how they act like they're speaking facts while saying nothing but bullshit. This might be the most laughable disinfo attempt I've seen in years. "It would still be glowing," "anyone that knows anything knows.... softening of the structural supports." Hahaha wtf? You sound like NIST. Get a life. the glowing was a reference to remaining radioactive, not visibly glowing. The actual heat generated is dissipated in a very short period of time, it really doesnt last long enough to be absorbed except in a relatively thin layer. Anywhere you see ground detonations you get only a little amount of glass, no glowing lakes of lava, For glowing lakes of magma needing weeks to cool thats what would happen with a few dozen tons of thermite generated molten iron in the basement covered up and effectively insulated with rubble. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8674541 United States 06/26/2014 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was a combined effort, so can't put all the blame on Israel... though they were definitely involved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54001054 Tactical nuke used in the basement. Nano-thermite to cut through the rest of the sections. Seriously, now that some more people are speaking about 'tactical nukes' in the basement.. what about deeper underground than just the basement levels.. but more like something 100-150 meters under the bathtub.. and not tactical but more like 150Kt each. Think more in terms of underground nuclear explosions like were used at Resilon and Rifle Colorado used for nuclear fracting of natural gas fields. |
Interdimensional*Warrior User ID: 59647831 United States 06/26/2014 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if that huge post holds any truth? Quoting: Heed I'm curious if nano thermite is in any way related to a nuclear explosion. I didn't know the full story about the guys stopped on the bridge until now. I listened to the interview with the cop that spotted the van. Some but not on most the technical details about what would happen if detonated in place. Explosions expand in all directions and not just up. There is not one single identifiable characteristic of a nuc explosion in any videos of the event. The bullshit about the building turned to dust is just bullshit, there is very little actual structural concrete used outside of the facade and the floors which only use a few inches over steel sheet and some in the various elevator shafts but much less than you'd think. You have to keep in mind that the device being described still generates 600 TONS equivalent of TNT each which would literally make the building disappear in a huge sun like flash. It's pretty hard to hide a second sun approximately a half kilometer sized ball from the news cameras. If you watch the videos the so called explosions are the symmetrical pancaking of one floor smacking into the one beneath it as each section of the central support column grid collapse from being superheated from within and then running down the inside of the box beams to repeat the process over and over and over all the way down. You can watch the antenna tower ride down with the top of the building that falls as terminal velocity from the very beginning. there are 'exotic' nukes that could be a very low explosive yield that cause damage by releasing high velocity neutrons. this can cause heating as well as disintegration Not so. They arent designed to damage structures, they are expensive and expensive. I dont have to prove a negative and I can prove every aspect of Thermite without resorting to magic or unknown technology. You disinformationalists cannot prove your points, you cannot identify your materials, you cannot even honestly describe the conditions, you cannot account for the real time images that show a building collapsing from the top down. None of you claims can match the obvious visible facts. Thats why you lie and misrepresent every aspect and resort to obviously ridiculous claims to discredit the entire truther movement. Knowing what I know I started out to disprove the truthers and instead learned I was wrong in believing any part of the official story. . l believe thermite was used. i also believe demolition explosives were used. there were some observations that cannot be explained by either, such as melting of metal objects over a block away and the crater that swallowed up the demolished buildings. were it not for this, half of lower Manhattan wo6ld have been destroyed |
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