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Who are those races in Star Trek?in real politics today

 
Caligulas
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Who are those races in Star Trek?in real politics today
Historical guess:
the Klingon empire-the Japanese Empire
the United Federation of Planets-USA

The first series depict the world war two,conflagration between americans and japanese,(with the proper comical cultural aspects),then they become allies

the Cardassian Union-Soviet Union,new enemy of the Federation,they are quikly ran over by the Dominion(red dominion-communism) ,who occupies a larger portion of the map(delta quadrant) than the Federation.Ferengi are the smallest "country" ,followed by Romulans and Klingons.
However,after the Cardassians are ransacked by communism ,the Federation does not consider them a threat ,much like Russia after 1989.

the Ferengi Alliance-the Jewish alliance,seek to profit from all trades and wars between civilisations

and finally....ready?
The Romulan Star Empire-The Romanian Star Empire,cloaking device,cultural aspects,;language,secret police,military,the Senate ,the Praetor,the secrecy ,it all fills in.

BTW:I only play the Romulans in ST:BOTF
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you know why they werent arabs on star trek?cause it was the future
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How about the vulcans? What are they? Freemasons?
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you know why they werent arabs on star trek?cause it was the future
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I guess you missed Doctor Bashir.
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the vulcans are the Japanese
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the klingons are chinese and the arabs are the borg
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

C. S. Lewis
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riiiiiight...the arabs or so borg like....

:blind as a bat:
:dumb as W:
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Caligulas (OP)
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Re: Who are those races in Star Trek?in real politics today
The Vulcans are the same people as the Romulans,who have rejected emotion for pure logic...seems like people of Transylvania ...compared with brutes from the old kingdom,we are superior ,more calm and quiet.

The Borg are the aliens,I believe,maybe the Annunaki

the arabs..well..semites are jews and arabs and arabs have the same profit desires.

Trill..now that's interesting ,I don't know,maybe EU or..somebody in EU
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07/07/2006 10:43 PM
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Ferengi = Usa, UK (money is god)
Cardassian = Israeli (keep entire race prisoner)
Bajoran = Palestinian (prisoners for over 30yrs)
Vulcan = China (self contained,
Romulan = Japan
Klingons = Vikings (Nordic races)
Borg = Countries controlled by religion (USA could slip into this category soon)
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07/08/2006 12:32 AM
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Ferengi and Vulcans = good and bad aspects of Jews
Romulans = Roman Catholics, Italians
Betazed/Bajoran (Diana Troy) = Greek
Borg = Grey aliens, real ETs, humans from the future
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And of course,

Jem Hadar - the African Americans forced to be slaves by the Dominion (White Americans) by getting them addicted to the White (Crack/Cocaine).
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Yakub wants his idea back a**hole.

My younger brother says that blacks built the pyramids for crack cocaine. I said not even an army of could do that for a lifetime supply.
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what about Tribbles?
remember, they're trouble!

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Commander Data = primitive A.I.
Q Continuum = Omega point godlike A.I.
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What about "Q"?
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What about "Q"?
 Quoting: shortcord nli 112404

Q = Bush
all powerful yet, inept
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The characteristcs of the races do not match those of countries on Earth.
If Vulcan philosophy may be associated with Japanese,surely China is not a democracy!Having a Senate,a Praetor,libertarian people who keep all matters secret..(romulans)
Yes,Bajor seems to be Greece.
Also,Mintakans are Moldovans,only good at agriculture,nice people..
More political character:

The Romulans:have an all-powerfull secret service,called Tal-Shiar which often eneters conflict with the Army.
The Ferengi are ruled by the Rules of Aquisition and are too,a democracy.
The Federation is composed of many different worlds and is ruled by Starfleet Council,much like an army council.They have a President.
The Cardassians evolved on a planet ravaged by war and famine and only military dictatorship saved them.Their secret service is seond to Romulans
The Klingons are ruled by the High Chancellor ,Martok or Goron,they have muck like a dictatorial government,are warriors led by honour and are very savage(much like Chinese or Japanese).Their outfit suggests the Japanese Samurai

The Federation is in a cold conflict with the Romulans and a warm one (previous) with the Cardassians
The Romulans hate Ferengi and the Federation,of course
the Cardassians hate Klingons(have been at war for a very long time) and the Federation.
the Klingons hate Ferengi(dishonourable) and the Cardassians
the Ferengi hate Romulans(no trade in their territory )and Klingons

so..little trasposition:
USA-Romania and Russia
Romania-Israel and USA
Russia-Japan(war since 1945) and USA
Japan-Israel and Russia
Israel-Romania and Japan

oh yeah,let's see it it fits:
cold war between USA and Russia
war between Japan and Russia
strained relations because of WW2 between Romania and Israel(400000 Jews masacred)
Japan's economy trying to dominate the world (Klingons manuf are the best in BOTF) ,but suffers a terrible loss in 1997 as a result of international (rich) jewish transactions
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07/08/2006 06:23 AM
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U.S = Borg
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The characteristcs of the races do not match those of countries on Earth.
If Vulcan philosophy may be associated with Japanese,surely China is not a democracy!Having a Senate,a Praetor,libertarian people who keep all matters secret..(romulans)
Yes,Bajor seems to be Greece.
Also,Mintakans are Moldovans,only good at agriculture,nice people..
More political character:

The Romulans:have an all-powerfull secret service,called Tal-Shiar which often eneters conflict with the Army.
The Ferengi are ruled by the Rules of Aquisition and are too,a democracy.
The Federation is composed of many different worlds and is ruled by Starfleet Council,much like an army council.They have a President.
The Cardassians evolved on a planet ravaged by war and famine and only military dictatorship saved them.Their secret service is seond to Romulans
The Klingons are ruled by the High Chancellor ,Martok or Goron,they have muck like a dictatorial government,are warriors led by honour and are very savage(much like Chinese or Japanese).Their outfit suggests the Japanese Samurai

The Federation is in a cold conflict with the Romulans and a warm one (previous) with the Cardassians
The Romulans hate Ferengi and the Federation,of course
the Cardassians hate Klingons(have been at war for a very long time) and the Federation.
the Klingons hate Ferengi(dishonourable) and the Cardassians
the Ferengi hate Romulans(no trade in their territory )and Klingons

so..little trasposition:
USA-Romania and Russia
Romania-Israel and USA
Russia-Japan(war since 1945) and USA
Japan-Israel and Russia
Israel-Romania and Japan

oh yeah,let's see it it fits:
cold war between USA and Russia
war between Japan and Russia
strained relations because of WW2 between Romania and Israel(400000 Jews masacred)
Japan's economy trying to dominate the world (Klingons manuf are the best in BOTF) ,but suffers a terrible loss in 1997 as a result of international (rich) jewish transactions
 Quoting: Caligulas 113502


How can a person such a wise-about-startrek be such dark about real life? Romulans and Romania... And how do you dare to say transylvanians escaped from us and wanted to belong to you? You dream about your nation being big, strong and famous but your Romania will ever be a piece of crap just like my Hungary. The difference is that I dare to be aware of that.

I feel like cardassia is like nazi germany, bajor is like Poland, 'cos they are very religious, Russia-Klingons for their barbarity (fix something with hammer, AK-47 just like Bat'let, but the communist thing desn't match) Romulans-Vulcans could be like north and south korea. But the China-Japan is also a good thing. But we have to think about that in Federation there's communism. It also can be a copy of EU with different people having their own identity and new incomers.
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Who knows, a few folks with the attributes of Jean-Luc Picard might make a difference in this world.

A hundred incarnated souls like Picard all working together could lead to positive world change...

Of course it's all conjecture...


This possibility would be similar to Einstein, Von Braun, Tesla, And Leedskalnin all working together for over twenty years.

Amazing possibilities...
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I've always thought of it like this:

federation= u.s./ united kingdom. I think earth is supposed to be the u.s. Actually.
vulcans= great Britain. Their society is based on democracy and they're a major power in our "world war" and allied with the u.s.
Klingon= Russia. Russia and japan's empires were both on common soil. The Klingons had nonagression with cardassians until they just went at it, like Russia and japan.
Cardassians= japan. Also, Klingons have a dictatorship. Kinda like Russia. And their leader doesn't lose his place until he dies or gets assassinated, which there are many atempts. (joseoph Stalin)
romulans= Germany. They have cloaking devices like u-boats and look similar to the vulcans, meaning they must be from the same continent, and humans only differ by our nonpointy ears.
Orions= Italy. They have a government (which is corrupted) but they're known for stealing. And being sexy. Like an Italiana. Mmmm. Plus they look like olives.

As for the rest of the federation, they're all a part of the uk, and I don't feel like analyzing them. After the war, America and Russia became the two superpowers of the world. They fought over the destroyed Germany (Romulus blew up, by the way) and then a cold war began between them. The former countries owned by japan were attacked by Russia, and japan became known for it's productivity and blah blah blah. Ring any bells to our startrek world?

Ferengi= short greedy people. You guys are antisemites. :) but for real, they probably are the Hebrews, as much as I don't wanna say it. I'm just thinking of the writers at startrek coming up with them and making them greedy little buggers. Haha
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you know why they werent arabs on star trek?cause it was the future
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ahahahahahah
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Great question.

I believe the writers took the characteristics from nations and transformed them into races making a totally new thing, so every race from the show is a combination from more than one real nation and one real nation might contribute in more than one star trek race.

It is wrong to think that the Kligons are this or that, they have been made from more than on race and so it is a new race in it's own form. I salute them for making it this way cause it serves the show with infinite ways.

One last thing, the Borg are not really a race but an idea to show that emotions are not inferior and should be cherished to make us a high beings. peace
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WE (the US) are the Borg. Assimilate or die. The Klingons were the Soviets, as Russians are viewed as rowdy, heavy drinkers, the Romulans and Vulcans are the Chinese and Japanese, as Asians are viewed as cool, aloof. Caradassians are Israelis, Bajorans are Palestinians. I doubt Gene Rodenberry was anti semitic, so I doubt Ferrengis were meant to be Jews, but instead a sad devolution of capitalists. The Dominion is the shadow rulers of our world, unelected, not reported on.
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Lets keep this simple: Getting too complicated

Ferengi- Jews (no doubts about it)
Federation-USA (Of course)
Romulan - Russian (why not)
Klingong- Muslims ( makes perfect sense)
Vulcan -Japanese (From savages comes Logic)
Cardassians- Chinese
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you know why they werent arabs on star trek?cause it was the future
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Dr. Bashir on Deep Space 9 was an Arab.
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you know why they werent arabs on star trek?cause it was the future
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I guess you missed Doctor Bashir.
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Doctor Bashir was Indian.
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Federation - Nato/Commonwealth
Klingon-Empire - Soviet Union (cf Whorf lived with Russians)
Romulans - People's Republic of China
Vulcans - Japanese (same cultural/racial origins as Romulans)
Cardassians - Muslims (Old culture warlike recently weakened)
Bajorans - India (Deeply religious, ancient, cont by Cardassia

All of these races share essential "human" charactersitics. Not that when STO was on, the Klingons though very competitive with the Federation still shared many pricniples and cooperation was just possible. The Romulans were isolated/cut off as China was at that time from the west. Japan was an ancient and -post war- pro Western country. Roddenberry was quite familiar with Japan.

I believe Cardassia more or less resonates with the deep resentment felt by the Middle East in the '80's and '90's and onward. There was a new enemy - also ancient in culture - that did not exist for the West during STO (and had not existed since the Turks fell)

That the Bajorans can be identified with the people of India is suggested by their extensive temple and monastery culture, their reverence of spiritual leaders concurrent with a strong sense of modernity and their ancient caste system.

Beyond that it is over speculation. To make the two "universes" (ours and the fictional one) match very broadly inspires interest and allows a little soap boxing on current issues. To make the two match excessively would ruin the story.

Dominion/Borg - Out of the picture. Creative innovation.
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in next gen star trek money does not exist they run the world on a resource based economy , its mentioned in an episode and a next gen movie
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Federation-Nato
Klingon-Empire-Japanese
Romulans-Americans
Vulcans-Chinese
Cardassians-Germans Nazi era
Ferengi-Jews

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