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Holy shit there is a lot of stupid going on in this thread. There are cases of TB every year. Labeling it with "OBAMA" and "IMMIGRANTS" is uninformed and ignorant. You people aren't free thinking freedom fighters - - - you are all a bunch of right wing tea party patsies. Learn how to think for yourself and stop getting your information from news article headlines. READ some shit for Christ's sake.

This country is so fucked if you people don't get with the program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Here's what the CDC says about it:
"Tuberculosis (TB) is a major threat. The CDC cites foreign-born persons as one of the groups at high-risk for tuberculosis (TB). In 2003, says the agency, foreign-born persons accounted for 94 percent of TB cases among Asians and 74 percent of cases among Hispanics, and six states (California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, and Texas) collectively accounted for 57 percent of the national total number of TB cases.

Moreover, reports the agency, low socioeconomic status--measured by crowding, education, income, poverty, public assistance, and unemployment (with crowding having the greatest impact)--is associated with an increased risk for TB.

The CDC reports that persons born outside the United States accounted for 53 percent of reported TB cases in 2003, and of the five countries of origin that accounted for the greatest number of foreign-born persons with TB, Mexico had the most (26 percent).

The CDC reports that during 1992-2002, an estimated 380,000-536,000 persons entered the U.S. each year as legal immigrants, refugees, or asylees. "In 2002, among the estimated 516,000 persons in those categories, 86.6 percent were from countries with high incidence of TB."
"
[link to www.emergencyemail.org]

***
We can apply some multipliers to those figures, as illegal immigration swells to unheard of numbers.


OK, let's take a look at the stats from the CDC now:
[link to www.cdc.gov]

How do the TB rates compare between U.S.-born persons and foreign-born persons living in the United States?

In 2012, a total of 63% of reported TB cases in the United States occurred among foreign-born persons. The case rate among foreign-born persons (15.9 cases per 100,000) in 2012 was approximately 11 times higher than among U.S.-born persons (1.4 cases per 100,000).


How many people died from TB in the United States?

There were 569 deaths from TB in 2010, the most recent year for which these data are available. Compared to 2000 data, when 776 deaths from TB occurred, this represents a 27% decrease in TB deaths over a decade.

What are the rates of TB for different racial and ethnic populations†?

American Indians or Alaska Natives: 6.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Asians: 18.9 cases per 100,000 persons
Blacks or African Americans: 5.8 cases per 100,000 persons
Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders: 12.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Hispanics or Latinos: 5.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Whites: 0.8 cases per 100,000 persons

† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.
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Patient Zero, is that not code for no documentation?

Patient One is any Caucasian (documented)

Patient Two is anyone beside Caucasian (documented)


Someone else here SHOULD be able to confirm this ranking system
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Your a tard..... Patient Zero is the originator of the outbreak...
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hope so.
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>>† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.


I am talking irrefutable facts, which you are attempting to refute with sticky sentimentalism and socialist swill.

The case is clear.

You will have a lot of time to think about the HUMAN RACE as you sit feebly in your wheelchair, unable to do much of anything but cough up bloody bits of lung.

I hope you come to some good conclusions about just where you fit in to this grand scheme of things. That will really be some handy information when you finally cough out the last chunk.
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Executive summary

Sacramento, Cali., Grant Union High School. Patient Zero active TB confirmed.
450 contacts tested. 9 cases of Active TB confirmed.
116 cases of latent TB "which is dormant and doesn't produce symptoms."

1rof1

Those with latent TB will have to take powerful drugs and have chest X-rays and monitoring for the rest of their lives, and 10% will go on to full blown TB, the shit will just wait till you're weak enough to consume you, literally. This is a fucking nightmare. Welcome to the third world people.




Link to Source:

[link to www.sacbee.com]

Link to Wiki TB

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: TrashTrawler


Thats vaccine provided outbreak DPT vaccine.
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"Come get your TB vaccines here! Now with more mercury for extra potency."
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Executive summary

Sacramento, Cali., Grant Union High School. Patient Zero active TB confirmed.
450 contacts tested. 9 cases of Active TB confirmed.
116 cases of latent TB "which is dormant and doesn't produce symptoms."

1rof1

Those with latent TB will have to take powerful drugs and have chest X-rays and monitoring for the rest of their lives, and 10% will go on to full blown TB, the shit will just wait till you're weak enough to consume you, literally. This is a fucking nightmare. Welcome to the third world people.




Link to Source:

[link to www.sacbee.com]

Link to Wiki TB

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: TrashTrawler


Thats vaccine provided outbreak DPT vaccine.
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Everybody has TB. Its in the chemtrails. See your doc for your diagnosis, mega-rad-dose chest x-rays, and lifetime $crip$.
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It's war by the usual means.

The Catholic Church knew what it was doing when it sent a herd of pigs through North America, when it was still highly populated by Indians.

And I suspect the outbreak of plagues in every one of five cities that the Philistines attempted to store the captured ark were helped along by diseased mice planted by the Jews.

Humanity has employed biological warfare for a long time.

This time our enemies choose to exploit an American weakness for being PC with the children.
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>>† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.


I am talking irrefutable facts, which you are attempting to refute with sticky sentimentalism and socialist swill.

The case is clear.

You will have a lot of time to think about the HUMAN RACE as you sit feebly in your wheelchair, unable to do much of anything but cough up bloody bits of lung.

I hope you come to some good conclusions about just where you fit in to this grand scheme of things. That will really be some handy information when you finally cough out the last chunk.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


WHOA! Now you're awake! If you are calling me on my "sticky sentimentalism" then I will raise you with your fear mongering and exageration. "coughing up bloody bits of lung"? Thats pretty intense for this argument I would think. As far as my "socialist will" - - - what would you then propose? A wall around the whole country? Genocide? Race wars? Totalitarian regimes to benefit the rich, white class?....Oh. I am I being to harsh? If you are going to post up straw men and ride slippery slopes, then I will face the mirror back at you with the same rhetorical misteps that you commit.

Now back to the point - - - closing the border doesn't solve the problem. If you think it does, then you are ignorant and unimaginative. It's people like you who gum-up the legislative process so that actual change can not occur. It is ridiculous to me that immigration reform is just as much of a political puzzle as the death penalty or abortion. Those, at least, require some deep contemplation and research. This is a no-brainer. The United States IS an immigrant nation. There is NO fact or figure that will refute that. Let's figure out how to do it better by having a non-partisan, holistic goal. I'm not saying we can't protect our country from disease and crime - - - I'm just saying that labeling it as "Obama" and "Immigration" does NOTHING to solve the problem. If that's the case, then the next person you vote for better have a campaign slogan that reads, "I hate Mexicans. Build a wall." Don't mince words. Claim what you think and stand by it. Disguising racist and bigoted agenda behind un-biased facts and figures is cowardly.

We are all human. We can ALL carry disease, whether we are migrants or whether we are vacationers to Cabo. Think before you speak. Then act.
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Holy shit there is a lot of stupid going on in this thread. There are cases of TB every year. Labeling it with "OBAMA" and "IMMIGRANTS" is uninformed and ignorant. You people aren't free thinking freedom fighters - - - you are all a bunch of right wing tea party patsies. Learn how to think for yourself and stop getting your information from news article headlines. READ some shit for Christ's sake.

This country is so fucked if you people don't get with the program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Here's what the CDC says about it:
"Tuberculosis (TB) is a major threat. The CDC cites foreign-born persons as one of the groups at high-risk for tuberculosis (TB). In 2003, says the agency, foreign-born persons accounted for 94 percent of TB cases among Asians and 74 percent of cases among Hispanics, and six states (California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, and Texas) collectively accounted for 57 percent of the national total number of TB cases.

Moreover, reports the agency, low socioeconomic status--measured by crowding, education, income, poverty, public assistance, and unemployment (with crowding having the greatest impact)--is associated with an increased risk for TB.

The CDC reports that persons born outside the United States accounted for 53 percent of reported TB cases in 2003, and of the five countries of origin that accounted for the greatest number of foreign-born persons with TB, Mexico had the most (26 percent).

The CDC reports that during 1992-2002, an estimated 380,000-536,000 persons entered the U.S. each year as legal immigrants, refugees, or asylees. "In 2002, among the estimated 516,000 persons in those categories, 86.6 percent were from countries with high incidence of TB."
"
[link to www.emergencyemail.org]

***
We can apply some multipliers to those figures, as illegal immigration swells to unheard of numbers.


OK, let's take a look at the stats from the CDC now:
[link to www.cdc.gov]

How do the TB rates compare between U.S.-born persons and foreign-born persons living in the United States?

In 2012, a total of 63% of reported TB cases in the United States occurred among foreign-born persons. The case rate among foreign-born persons (15.9 cases per 100,000) in 2012 was approximately 11 times higher than among U.S.-born persons (1.4 cases per 100,000).


How many people died from TB in the United States?

There were 569 deaths from TB in 2010, the most recent year for which these data are available. Compared to 2000 data, when 776 deaths from TB occurred, this represents a 27% decrease in TB deaths over a decade.

What are the rates of TB for different racial and ethnic populations†?

American Indians or Alaska Natives: 6.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Asians: 18.9 cases per 100,000 persons
Blacks or African Americans: 5.8 cases per 100,000 persons
Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders: 12.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Hispanics or Latinos: 5.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Whites: 0.8 cases per 100,000 persons

† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Amen. We as people are the cause of most major problems because of greed. We build all weapons from chemicals to Haarp. We are the ones who need to stop developing something that will destroy our race. We could take the money used to destroy and spend it on using the current technology we have to better this world. Right now the air, water and food is contaminated and most want to bitch about foreign people because the do not want to address the real problems. Right now humans are still living in their created paradigms where no one else matters as long as my ego is satisfied. We have been put against each other and we are divided by system that is designed to keep us divided. Peace
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Holy shit there is a lot of stupid going on in this thread. There are cases of TB every year. Labeling it with "OBAMA" and "IMMIGRANTS" is uninformed and ignorant. You people aren't free thinking freedom fighters - - - you are all a bunch of right wing tea party patsies. Learn how to think for yourself and stop getting your information from news article headlines. READ some shit for Christ's sake.

This country is so fucked if you people don't get with the program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Here's what the CDC says about it:
"Tuberculosis (TB) is a major threat. The CDC cites foreign-born persons as one of the groups at high-risk for tuberculosis (TB). In 2003, says the agency, foreign-born persons accounted for 94 percent of TB cases among Asians and 74 percent of cases among Hispanics, and six states (California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, and Texas) collectively accounted for 57 percent of the national total number of TB cases.

Moreover, reports the agency, low socioeconomic status--measured by crowding, education, income, poverty, public assistance, and unemployment (with crowding having the greatest impact)--is associated with an increased risk for TB.

The CDC reports that persons born outside the United States accounted for 53 percent of reported TB cases in 2003, and of the five countries of origin that accounted for the greatest number of foreign-born persons with TB, Mexico had the most (26 percent).

The CDC reports that during 1992-2002, an estimated 380,000-536,000 persons entered the U.S. each year as legal immigrants, refugees, or asylees. "In 2002, among the estimated 516,000 persons in those categories, 86.6 percent were from countries with high incidence of TB."
"
[link to www.emergencyemail.org]

***
We can apply some multipliers to those figures, as illegal immigration swells to unheard of numbers.


OK, let's take a look at the stats from the CDC now:
[link to www.cdc.gov]

How do the TB rates compare between U.S.-born persons and foreign-born persons living in the United States?

In 2012, a total of 63% of reported TB cases in the United States occurred among foreign-born persons. The case rate among foreign-born persons (15.9 cases per 100,000) in 2012 was approximately 11 times higher than among U.S.-born persons (1.4 cases per 100,000).


How many people died from TB in the United States?

There were 569 deaths from TB in 2010, the most recent year for which these data are available. Compared to 2000 data, when 776 deaths from TB occurred, this represents a 27% decrease in TB deaths over a decade.

What are the rates of TB for different racial and ethnic populations†?

American Indians or Alaska Natives: 6.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Asians: 18.9 cases per 100,000 persons
Blacks or African Americans: 5.8 cases per 100,000 persons
Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders: 12.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Hispanics or Latinos: 5.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Whites: 0.8 cases per 100,000 persons

† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Amen. We as people are the cause of most major problems because of greed. We build all weapons from chemicals to Haarp. We are the ones who need to stop developing something that will destroy our race. We could take the money used to destroy and spend it on using the current technology we have to better this world. Right now the air, water and food is contaminated and most want to bitch about foreign people because the do not want to address the real problems. Right now humans are still living in their created paradigms where no one else matters as long as my ego is satisfied. We have been put against each other and we are divided by system that is designed to keep us divided. Peace
 Quoting: Learningtofly


rockon Well said.
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Holy shit there is a lot of stupid going on in this thread. There are cases of TB every year. Labeling it with "OBAMA" and "IMMIGRANTS" is uninformed and ignorant. You people aren't free thinking freedom fighters - - - you are all a bunch of right wing tea party patsies. Learn how to think for yourself and stop getting your information from news article headlines. READ some shit for Christ's sake.

This country is so fucked if you people don't get with the program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Here's what the CDC says about it:
"Tuberculosis (TB) is a major threat. The CDC cites foreign-born persons as one of the groups at high-risk for tuberculosis (TB). In 2003, says the agency, foreign-born persons accounted for 94 percent of TB cases among Asians and 74 percent of cases among Hispanics, and six states (California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, and Texas) collectively accounted for 57 percent of the national total number of TB cases.

Moreover, reports the agency, low socioeconomic status--measured by crowding, education, income, poverty, public assistance, and unemployment (with crowding having the greatest impact)--is associated with an increased risk for TB.

The CDC reports that persons born outside the United States accounted for 53 percent of reported TB cases in 2003, and of the five countries of origin that accounted for the greatest number of foreign-born persons with TB, Mexico had the most (26 percent).

The CDC reports that during 1992-2002, an estimated 380,000-536,000 persons entered the U.S. each year as legal immigrants, refugees, or asylees. "In 2002, among the estimated 516,000 persons in those categories, 86.6 percent were from countries with high incidence of TB."
"
[link to www.emergencyemail.org]

***
We can apply some multipliers to those figures, as illegal immigration swells to unheard of numbers.


OK, let's take a look at the stats from the CDC now:
[link to www.cdc.gov]

How do the TB rates compare between U.S.-born persons and foreign-born persons living in the United States?

In 2012, a total of 63% of reported TB cases in the United States occurred among foreign-born persons. The case rate among foreign-born persons (15.9 cases per 100,000) in 2012 was approximately 11 times higher than among U.S.-born persons (1.4 cases per 100,000).


How many people died from TB in the United States?

There were 569 deaths from TB in 2010, the most recent year for which these data are available. Compared to 2000 data, when 776 deaths from TB occurred, this represents a 27% decrease in TB deaths over a decade.

What are the rates of TB for different racial and ethnic populations†?

American Indians or Alaska Natives: 6.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Asians: 18.9 cases per 100,000 persons
Blacks or African Americans: 5.8 cases per 100,000 persons
Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders: 12.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Hispanics or Latinos: 5.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Whites: 0.8 cases per 100,000 persons

† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Amen. We as people are the cause of most major problems because of greed. We build all weapons from chemicals to Haarp. We are the ones who need to stop developing something that will destroy our race. We could take the money used to destroy and spend it on using the current technology we have to better this world. Right now the air, water and food is contaminated and most want to bitch about foreign people because the do not want to address the real problems. Right now humans are still living in their created paradigms where no one else matters as long as my ego is satisfied. We have been put against each other and we are divided by system that is designed to keep us divided. Peace
 Quoting: Learningtofly


So, according to your paradigm, what specific, concrete, and easily understood steps should the citizens of the towns who are over run with diseased, illegal, non-citizens take?

What will you do to address this specific problem.

I head a lot of theory, now, how about some practical application of those theories and sermons?

What are your ideas for dealing with this situation?
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CRAP! Your title got me hopeful...OBAMA doesn't have TB!!!bsflag
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It would be mean to wish that Obama contracts TB.

So don't do it.

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Here's what the CDC says about it:
"Tuberculosis (TB) is a major threat. The CDC cites foreign-born persons as one of the groups at high-risk for tuberculosis (TB). In 2003, says the agency, foreign-born persons accounted for 94 percent of TB cases among Asians and 74 percent of cases among Hispanics, and six states (California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, and Texas) collectively accounted for 57 percent of the national total number of TB cases.

Moreover, reports the agency, low socioeconomic status--measured by crowding, education, income, poverty, public assistance, and unemployment (with crowding having the greatest impact)--is associated with an increased risk for TB.

The CDC reports that persons born outside the United States accounted for 53 percent of reported TB cases in 2003, and of the five countries of origin that accounted for the greatest number of foreign-born persons with TB, Mexico had the most (26 percent).

The CDC reports that during 1992-2002, an estimated 380,000-536,000 persons entered the U.S. each year as legal immigrants, refugees, or asylees. "In 2002, among the estimated 516,000 persons in those categories, 86.6 percent were from countries with high incidence of TB."
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[link to www.emergencyemail.org]

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We can apply some multipliers to those figures, as illegal immigration swells to unheard of numbers.


OK, let's take a look at the stats from the CDC now:
[link to www.cdc.gov]

How do the TB rates compare between U.S.-born persons and foreign-born persons living in the United States?

In 2012, a total of 63% of reported TB cases in the United States occurred among foreign-born persons. The case rate among foreign-born persons (15.9 cases per 100,000) in 2012 was approximately 11 times higher than among U.S.-born persons (1.4 cases per 100,000).


How many people died from TB in the United States?

There were 569 deaths from TB in 2010, the most recent year for which these data are available. Compared to 2000 data, when 776 deaths from TB occurred, this represents a 27% decrease in TB deaths over a decade.

What are the rates of TB for different racial and ethnic populations†?

American Indians or Alaska Natives: 6.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Asians: 18.9 cases per 100,000 persons
Blacks or African Americans: 5.8 cases per 100,000 persons
Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders: 12.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Hispanics or Latinos: 5.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Whites: 0.8 cases per 100,000 persons

† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Amen. We as people are the cause of most major problems because of greed. We build all weapons from chemicals to Haarp. We are the ones who need to stop developing something that will destroy our race. We could take the money used to destroy and spend it on using the current technology we have to better this world. Right now the air, water and food is contaminated and most want to bitch about foreign people because the do not want to address the real problems. Right now humans are still living in their created paradigms where no one else matters as long as my ego is satisfied. We have been put against each other and we are divided by system that is designed to keep us divided. Peace
 Quoting: Learningtofly


So, according to your paradigm, what specific, concrete, and easily understood steps should the citizens of the towns who are over run with diseased, illegal, non-citizens take?

What will you do to address this specific problem.

I head a lot of theory, now, how about some practical application of those theories and sermons?

What are your ideas for dealing with this situation?
 Quoting: Lil Sis


Hmmm. I see. You find it necessary to answer MY question with another question. Awesome. Then the terms of this argument are set. So, withou further ado, my answer to your question:

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

God I'm good.
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First steps toward censoring studies showing that undocumented persons are more likely to transmit tuberculosis than are documented foreign-born persons or persons born in the United States?

From the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases
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50% rule observed

Ethical Considerations about Reporting Research Results with Potential for Further Stigmatization of Undocumented Immigrants

Jacqueline M. Achkar1 and
Ruth Macklin2

Abstract

A broad spectrum of infectious diseases is studied in vulnerable populations. However, ethical considerations of reporting research results that could increase stigmatization of socially marginalized and vulnerable populations are not often discussed in the medical literature, particularly not in the context of transmissible diseases. This article addresses ethical considerations that arose when one of us (J.M.A.) recently published the results of a study in Clinical Infectious Diseases that imply that undocumented persons are more likely to transmit tuberculosis than are documented foreign-born persons or persons born in the United States. These study results have the potential to further fuel the often fierce debate regarding undocumented immigrants in the United States. To our knowledge, such ethical considerations have not been discussed previously in the medical literature.



Immigration and Tuberculosis in the United States

The highly politicized topic of illegal immigration continues to attract national attention. Among the 37.9 million immigrants living in the United States, nearly 1 of 3 is undocumented, and it was estimated that more than one-half of the 10.3 million immigrants who arrived in the United States from 2000 through 2007 were undocumented [1]. Barriers to health care services for such a large and socially marginalized population could have a significant negative impact on cost and public health in general [2, 3].

A study published by one of us (J.M.A.) was, to our knowledge, the first to evaluate the impact of place of birth and documentation status on the clinical presentation of pulmonary tuberculosis (TB) in patients [4]. In this retrospective study, 194 patients with culture-proven pulmonary TB who were admitted to a large public hospital in New York City over a period of 5 years were categorized into 3 groups (US-born, documented foreign-born, and undocumented foreign-born persons), and the clinical findings and symptoms at the time of initial hospital evaluation were compared among the groups. The results revealed that undocumented foreign-born persons with TB, compared with US-born persons with TB, presented with significantly higher frequencies of cough and hemoptysis and had a significantly longer median duration of symptoms. In contrast, no statistically significant differences were observed between documented foreign-born persons and US-born persons. Furthermore, in multivariate analysis, being an undocumented relative to a US-born person remained independently associated with prolonged symptom duration (⩾8 weeks). On the one hand, publication of such findings could lead to improved access to health care services for persons at risk of active TB, regardless of their immigration status [2]. On the other hand, such findings could cause a public health alarm, because previous studies have revealed that a delayed diagnosis of TB is associated with higher rates of transmission to close contacts [5, 6].

Despite the decreasing number of cases, TB is far from eliminated (<1 case per 1 million persons) in the United States; the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention set 2010 as the goal year for elimination of TB [7]. In 2006, nearly 14,000 cases of active TB were diagnosed in the United States, and the majority (57%) of these cases were detected in foreign-born persons, who have an almost 10-times higher case rate than do those born in the United States (22.0 cases per 100,000 persons vs. 2.3 cases per 100,000 persons) [8]. A recent publication by Cain et al. [9] that addressed the growing problem of TB in foreign-born populations has attracted the attention of the media and has raised public concerns in the United States [10]. Although most molecular epidemiology studies do not indicate that TB in immigrants is associated with increased transmission to native-born persons [11–15], a study published in Clinical Infectious Diseases a few months ago found evidence of recent TB transmission between the immigrant and native populations of Spain [16]. Taking the publication of these latest studies into consideration, we examined the potential short-term and long-term effects (in both legal and nonlegal contexts) of the publication of results that imply that undocumented foreign-born persons may be more likely than documented foreign-born persons or US-born persons to transmit TB.
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hahaha!! yall are funny!! and i bet yall hate muslims, chinese, koreans, russians etc.. just because the gov hates them. yall might even say yall hate obama and the gov but are quick to stand behing the gov and hate whoever they brainwashed yall to hate........
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[link to data.worldbank.org]

Mexicants have a rising rate of TB that is five times higher then the US.
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And where are they being sent...

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TB is curable
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its not my people that are coming from Mexico that are bringing this. shit there is illegals coming in from everywhere not just Mexico. for some reason everyone wants to point at Mexico. there is canadians that cross the border too not to mention the chinese,europeans, etc that are always coming here.
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dude

Canadians, Chinese and Europeans get
TB vaccinations early in life

Mexicans do not

you're bringing death across the border dude

stop it
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Dude: Check out the facts about TB vaccinations. They are not very effective & they are only slightly effective in a few for less than 15 years. Dude each country use to require a passport with your immunization record documentation for everyone, including Americans, but today they appear to just overlook these immunizations.

Just had a couple from Japan, who has been here at least 5 years, the INS (Immigration & Naturalization Services) just sent them a letter, out of the blue, requiring they show proof of all their vaccinations.

We felt compassion for them. They had no real records here in the USA. They had to have lab tests for titers & booster shots. They were threatened with deportation if they didn't present the required documentation within a few weeks. He works in upper management for one the Japanese companies that manufactures parts for Toyota. He's here for 7-10 years.

My point Dude? The INS should have required all documentation BEFORE they were allowed to enter the US. Don't you think?
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If you like your TB, you can keep your TB, PERIOD
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TB was curable
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Fixed:

[link to www.livescience.com]

Medical experts are alarmed that strains of tuberculosis, or TB, have emerged that are so virulent they're being called "virtually untreatable," even with the most powerful drugs available
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Here's what the CDC says about it:
"Tuberculosis (TB) is a major threat. The CDC cites foreign-born persons as one of the groups at high-risk for tuberculosis (TB). In 2003, says the agency, foreign-born persons accounted for 94 percent of TB cases among Asians and 74 percent of cases among Hispanics, and six states (California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, and Texas) collectively accounted for 57 percent of the national total number of TB cases.

Moreover, reports the agency, low socioeconomic status--measured by crowding, education, income, poverty, public assistance, and unemployment (with crowding having the greatest impact)--is associated with an increased risk for TB.

The CDC reports that persons born outside the United States accounted for 53 percent of reported TB cases in 2003, and of the five countries of origin that accounted for the greatest number of foreign-born persons with TB, Mexico had the most (26 percent).

The CDC reports that during 1992-2002, an estimated 380,000-536,000 persons entered the U.S. each year as legal immigrants, refugees, or asylees. "In 2002, among the estimated 516,000 persons in those categories, 86.6 percent were from countries with high incidence of TB."
"
[link to www.emergencyemail.org]

***
We can apply some multipliers to those figures, as illegal immigration swells to unheard of numbers.


OK, let's take a look at the stats from the CDC now:
[link to www.cdc.gov]

How do the TB rates compare between U.S.-born persons and foreign-born persons living in the United States?

In 2012, a total of 63% of reported TB cases in the United States occurred among foreign-born persons. The case rate among foreign-born persons (15.9 cases per 100,000) in 2012 was approximately 11 times higher than among U.S.-born persons (1.4 cases per 100,000).


How many people died from TB in the United States?

There were 569 deaths from TB in 2010, the most recent year for which these data are available. Compared to 2000 data, when 776 deaths from TB occurred, this represents a 27% decrease in TB deaths over a decade.

What are the rates of TB for different racial and ethnic populations†?

American Indians or Alaska Natives: 6.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Asians: 18.9 cases per 100,000 persons
Blacks or African Americans: 5.8 cases per 100,000 persons
Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders: 12.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Hispanics or Latinos: 5.3 cases per 100,000 persons
Whites: 0.8 cases per 100,000 persons

† For this report, persons identified as white, black, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, or of multiple races are all non-Hispanic. Persons identified as Hispanic may be of any race.

You can go to CDCs detail report and see that conclusively, white Americans have the lowest TB rate by far. Though cases have been decreasing across the board, look for those stats to change with the push to bring in more and more people from countries where the TB rates are high.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

Draw your own conclusions.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I appreciate that you listed this information. There are valuable figures indicated, even ones pointing to links with migrant peoples. It is important; however, to remember that correlation and causation are drastically different principles. There are even studies indicating that there may be more people LEAVING this country on any given day, month, or year than are arriving. The point of my reply was to recognize the fear mongering and poorly-placed blame. If this is to be attributed to "Obama" and "Immigration" (which I think is ignorant) , then we ALL are to blame for the problem. How is it that our little country is the one who gets to have the proper vaccination rates and public education on pathogens, while 90+% of the rest of the world is cast aside - - - only to be blamed for illness because they weren't "rich enough". There is a bigger problem here. Its not about America, or guns, or Obama Care, or Nancy Pelosi - - - Its about human lives. I think during this 4th of July, I'm gonna think about where I fit as a member of the HUMAN RACE instead of how many American flags are staked in my front yard. The world is getting smaller and smaller and if we don't wise up, we are extinct - - - and the universe won't give 2 shits. It's up to us now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4079090


Amen. We as people are the cause of most major problems because of greed. We build all weapons from chemicals to Haarp. We are the ones who need to stop developing something that will destroy our race. We could take the money used to destroy and spend it on using the current technology we have to better this world. Right now the air, water and food is contaminated and most want to bitch about foreign people because the do not want to address the real problems. Right now humans are still living in their created paradigms where no one else matters as long as my ego is satisfied. We have been put against each other and we are divided by system that is designed to keep us divided. Peace
 Quoting: Learningtofly


So, according to your paradigm, what specific, concrete, and easily understood steps should the citizens of the towns who are over run with diseased, illegal, non-citizens take?

What will you do to address this specific problem.

I head a lot of theory, now, how about some practical application of those theories and sermons?

What are your ideas for dealing with this situation?
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I think were just supposed to bitch,moan and whine about it for a while until were given a new "Its obomas fault" thread.
I'm sure there's some contributors that have great ideas but there drowned out by whiners And deleaters.

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so chest ex rays for the rest of their life

so it means an elevated risk of lung cancer for these people?
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TB is curable
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Not the newer drug resistant strains which are very scary
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I live in Sacramento. In the past month I have had to step away from several different people who were obviously illegals and who had 'horrible' coughs. I'm not positive what a tuberculosis cough sounds like, but I DID have the thought, "OMG, I wonder if she has TB?" and had the strong instinct to remove myself immediately from the area.

We have a LOT of illegals in this area. For the most part they seem to be okay and well behaved. But if we now have a tuberculosis epidemic, well that's just great. Can't wait to get to the office tomorrow and breathe everyone else's air....
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Maybe start wearing a dust mask. Greetings from yolo county.
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Get hand sanitizer and carry it with you. I like D. Broners, it doesn't have harmful endocrine disruptors.
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