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moses787 User ID: 63597237 United States 11/20/2014 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, our Supreme Court is suppose to deal with our Constitution 24/7; but even they have been silenced by the new world order Satanist and illuminuttys!! But these devils and Satanist won't be able to get around God and His Holy Bible; as they will have to answer to the Almighty God for the crimes and murders and genocides that they have done for the last 200 plus years. As their scorching's and frying's and agonies will be off the chart, forever and ever and ever!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64737393 United States 11/20/2014 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask any law student and they will tell you that an Executive Order applies only to Federal Government and is trumped by treaties and laws passed by the legislative branch. Quoting: Donkey Jaw My favorite term is "executive action" which has been a new one to me over the last 6 years. It is a completely fictional term unless it means to veto, which is basically his only power. An Executive Order is the President ordering all the people elected or selected to be in the Executive Administration. The President CANNOT execute the will of Congress all by his little own efforts. A president cannot execute the hundreds of thousands of laws Congress passes, not by himself. That is why it is called the Executive Branch or Administration because it is not just the President. The President is an Executive, and not the grunts of that group. Several Million people in the Executive Branch, and any one of them can refuse to do the will of Congress, aka break the Law, go against the Rules and Regs that Congress has set forth. The Executive is tasked with getting the rest of the Executive Branch to properly apply and co-execute the will of Congress. This takes orders to this one or that one or the Cabinet to guide them into fulfilling the will of Congress. Such and Executive has to give Orders to his "troops" in order to faithfully uphold the will of Congress. That is the proper use of and Executive Order. But any Executive Order that goes against the Laws passed by Congress and Signed by the President is a color of law Executive Order, that is not to be obeyed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1254689 United States 11/20/2014 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me get right up fucking scumbags all of a sudden found out the president can use executive order to enact law. You racist pieces of shits never had a problem with it until Obama threatens to use it .fuck all of you pieces of shit. Die already. The earth and humanity are tired of your asses |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38476269 United States 11/20/2014 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me get right up fucking scumbags all of a sudden found out the president can use executive order to enact law. You racist pieces of shits never had a problem with it until Obama threatens to use it .fuck all of you pieces of shit. Die already. The earth and humanity are tired of your asses Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1254689 Ooga la booga la! Welfay-ah an grape drank! Turkwise! RACE-ISSSS! |
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Chrit User ID: 64469348 United States 11/20/2014 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The accumulation of all power, legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." - James Madison I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 11/20/2014 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., says there is 'no question' President Obama's immigration order can be blocked by legislation - @thehill Read more on thehill.com For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40773431 United States 11/20/2014 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless a national security crisis allows them to set in motion their plans for continuity of government which include dictatorship like supreme executive authority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50023508 Bush did it just before he left office. ..coming to a "war theater" near you. I cannot stand Bush 41 but he did go to Congress for approval. |
GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 11/20/2014 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson tells agency employees Obama immigration plan will focus enforcement efforts on immigrants who are serious criminals, those who crossed into the US illegally or were ordered from the country in the last year - @AP For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Chrit User ID: 64469348 United States 11/20/2014 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask any law student and they will tell you that an Executive Order applies only to Federal Government and is trumped by treaties and laws passed by the legislative branch. Quoting: Donkey Jaw My favorite term is "executive action" which has been a new one to me over the last 6 years. It is a completely fictional term unless it means to veto, which is basically his only power. They are doing this all through petition and consensus practices of organized labor. They are trying to make a precedence of public opinion based on lies before it goes to court. Convince enough people there is a “law” saying something is legal and they will believe it, then the protests start en masse and the media spins the protesters opinions as truths. Meanwhile the list of legal immigrants who can enter the country the correct way gets pushed to the back of the pile, they don’t want highly educated immigrants with degrees entering the country because of how they vote. From March; "Relief delayed is relief denied," said Pablo Alvarado, director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which has filed a rule-making petition with the Homeland Security Department seeking changes to deportation policies. "The president has no excuse to continue his unjust deportation policy, and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus should not delay joining what is now a consensus position that the president can and should suspend deportations." [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Consensus is essential in a nation trained and kept in line by a vigorous propaganda machine That is the key to this action. Nothing will acutely change when it comes to their legal standing in the county after the executive order, they will still all be illegal aliens. But it will instill a “negative liberty” or a “negative right” on the population effected. When it is then overturned because it was illegal to do in the first place, the population will attempt to pass off deportation immunity as a passive right they believed they have gained. Snip; "President Obama knows he lacks legal authority to grant executive amnesty to millions of illegal aliens," Brooks said in a statement. "Yet, in response to special interest group pressures, President Obama says he will grant executive amnesty anyway. President Obama should be held to his own words and bound by the United States Constitution." [link to news.yahoo.com] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 11/20/2014 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Editor's note: The Associated Press has reported details of President Obama's immigration overhaul, according to sources briefed on the plan. The report says the plan will protect some parents who are in the U.S. illegally if their children are citizens or lawful permanent residents. It also says the plan will prioritize deportations and shield the deportation of minors brought to the U.S. illegally. Border security will also see more resources, and Custom Enforcement officers will see increased pay, the sources say. Obama will formally announce the overhaul this evening. - Stephanie Read more on bigstory.ap.or For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59196256 United States 11/20/2014 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the key to this action. Nothing will acutely change when it comes to their legal standing in the county after the executive order, they will still all be illegal aliens. Quoting: Chrit Wrong.....what will change is a huge amount of pressure will be put on the congress to act and pass immigration reform, something they want nothing to do with. Unless a Repub POTUS gets in the order will stand indefinitely. The pressure to reform will increase over time while at the same time inflaming every damm GOP crybaby in the country. The meltdown we will see from this by the Repubtards will be EPIC. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65322364 United States 11/20/2014 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me get right up fucking scumbags all of a sudden found out the president can use executive order to enact law. You racist pieces of shits never had a problem with it until Obama threatens to use it .fuck all of you pieces of shit. Die already. The earth and humanity are tired of your asses Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1254689 Law? Yes his to choose and pick what he wants to enforce? That's not how it works dick head. The laws on the books on immigration are good if your chosen one would just fucking enforce them. And tell anyone right next to you fuck you from America too. |
Chrit User ID: 64469348 United States 11/20/2014 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the key to this action. Nothing will acutely change when it comes to their legal standing in the county after the executive order, they will still all be illegal aliens. Quoting: Chrit Wrong.....what will change is a huge amount of pressure will be put on the congress to act and pass immigration reform, something they want nothing to do with. Unless a Repub POTUS gets in the order will stand indefinitely. The pressure to reform will increase over time while at the same time inflaming every damm GOP crybaby in the country. The meltdown we will see from this by the Repubtards will be EPIC. Acutely it will go to court and get over turned, you can't have a person live in the country without equal rights under the law. As it is said to be signed, they will not have equal rights in anyway. So because they will still be 100% illegally in the country and the courts don’t have the authority to make them legal, it will be struck down. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 11/20/2014 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Senate confirms 6 ambassadors, 8 judges, 3 executive branch nominations; Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., says nearly 60 nominees waiting on executive calendar - @thehill For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 11/20/2014 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sen. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind., says he's 'frustrated as anyones on immigration inaction but President Obama 'shouldn't make such significant policy changes on his own' - @seungminkim For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
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Chrit User ID: 64469348 United States 11/20/2014 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let us just use the presidents own words on the matter. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59196256 United States 11/20/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know if anybody has said it through four pages? But this is just a big fuck you for the incoming Congress and Senate. Just defund it all no worries just the fuck you left we can live with that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65322364 You can't defund it dumb ass......the congress does not appropriate their money. Try educating yourself on a subject before posting your nonsense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65338833 United States 11/20/2014 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless a national security crisis allows them to set in motion their plans for continuity of government which include dictatorship like supreme executive authority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50023508 Bush did it just before he left office. ..coming to a "war theater" near you. That's the thing though bro, they don't have the power to give themselves those powers, so stop thinking they do, every judge and politician and reserve bank operative should be immediately arrested and indefinitely detained while the american people get on with their plan to dispense with these vampires |
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Chrit User ID: 60551496 United States 11/20/2014 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sen. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind., says he's 'frustrated as anyones on immigration inaction but President Obama 'shouldn't make such significant policy changes on his own' - @seungminkim Quoting: GodzillaReturns Going to end in full gridlock by design. Last Edited by Chrit on 11/20/2014 05:58 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65342586 Thailand 11/20/2014 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it possible to retroactively impeach presidents for using the unconstitutional executive order? Here is a list of the last ten presidents with the average number per year of executive orders they issued: Obama: 33.57 Bush II: 36.38 Clinton: 45.5 Bush I: 41.5 Reagan: 47.63 Carter: 80 Ford: 68.98 Nixon: 62.34 Johnson: 62.86 Kennedy: 75.35 Interestingly, Obama has the lowest rate of executive orders for the last ten presidents. |
Chrit User ID: 60551496 United States 11/20/2014 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is it possible to retroactively impeach presidents for using the unconstitutional executive order? Here is a list of the last ten presidents with the average number per year of executive orders they issued: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65342586 Obama: 33.57 Bush II: 36.38 Clinton: 45.5 Bush I: 41.5 Reagan: 47.63 Carter: 80 Ford: 68.98 Nixon: 62.34 Johnson: 62.86 Kennedy: 75.35 Interestingly, Obama has the lowest rate of executive orders for the last ten presidents. The orders are allowed because of the "faithfully executed clause" giving the president leeway to make sure the constitution is lawfully upheld. So constitutionally he gets the power of executive order through the line "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" So how is he helping "faithfully execute" the law though executive order by not enforcing the current laws on the books is the question. The EO is saying don't enforce the laws on the books that the legislative branch legally passed, nulling the line in the constitution that gave him the right to sign the EO in the first place. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by Chrit on 11/20/2014 08:56 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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