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US 'kidnaps' Russian MP's son to exchange him for Snowden.

 
davvi

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The US “kidnapped” the son of a Russian MP, possibly to exchange him for Edward Snowden, the father charged. The man was indicted with computer-related crimes by a Washington DC court and snatched from the Maldives.

Roman Seleznyov was detained on Saturday at Male international airport as he was returning to Russia, the Russian foreign ministry said on Tuesday in a statement. He was forced by agents of the US Secret Service to board a private plane to Guam to be later arrested, a move which the ministry called “a de-facto kidnapping.”

“We consider this incident as a new hostile move by Washington,” the statement said, accusing the American authorities of ignoring proper procedure in dealing with foreign nationals suspected of crimes.

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 Quoting: Mundus


If this is true, I am embarrassed by this government.

:2-28 Putin:

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Someday our extremely foul and corrupt gov is going to piss off entirely too many nations.
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Well, it already has, in my opinion. So far, we have been lucky that those nations aren't pissed off enough to ignore their squabbles and join together against the USA... yet.
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Duma deputy Seleznyov, whose son has been apprehended by U.S., ready to fly to U.S.
[link to interfax.com]

Now they are offering him a free trip in US? Why American taxpayers have to pay his plane ticket to US?
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...


Who said it was Obama? He might be just finding this out when he wakes up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998


Nah.

I don't think he's pulling the strings but I also don't think they'd do something this aggressive without keeping him in the loop.

Then again, they might want him to have plausible deniability in case shit hits the fan.

Who knows?
 Quoting: Em18966


The CIA, think tanks headed by the Kagans and the neocons all want Obama out of office and a warmonger to replace him. Obama has been the only thing that stands between the US bombing Syria and iran. Kerry wants it, Clinton wanted it, Biden wants it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998


Don't buy it.

Obama doesn't have that kind of power.

He's their puppet.

If they wanted him out he'd be out already.

The idea that there are really two sides is silly. The people pulling the strings would be doing precisely what they're doing regardless of who was in office.

Whatever Obama's doing, whatever front he's putting up, he's doing what he's told. He's doing exactly what Mitt Romney would be doing at this point had he been elected.

The presidents have no real power, they are nothing but front men, actors playing a role.
 Quoting: Em18966


Indeed they do.
The first term they control them threw the need for Wallstreet re-election funds. The second term by scandal or assassination.
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Putin has been three steps ahead of Barak since day one.

If you seriously think he'll give up Snowden over this, I'd recommend institutionalization.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Snowden is not who you think he is.
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This is getting interesting. Let's see what Putin does next. He should kidnap Reggie Love.
 Quoting: Munsoned


If I was Putin I would kidnap the Kardashians and the US would fall to shit!
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That is hardcore. Wo.

The US should not be kidnapping.
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“Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as
reported on Kol Yisrael radio:
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.""
[link to us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com]
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If I were Putin I would start a World campaign to boycott every American product until the U.S is totally bankrupt and can't even afford to have an Army or Police.

Start a world campaign Putin. The rest of the world is with you. Lets take down the World's Bullie for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60002153


We will always have more money for an army. The Iron Bank is cool like that ;)
davvi

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Putin has been three steps ahead of Barak since day one.

If you seriously think he'll give up Snowden over this, I'd recommend institutionalization.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Snowden is not who you think he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998


Perhaps, perhaps not, but BO is definitely the cretin I think he is...
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Why don't the KGB just go to Ukraine and kidnap Bidens son who is running the Ukrainian National Gas Company? Tit for tat. Unless Biden and/or his son are worthless/useless.
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Putin has been three steps ahead of Barak since day one.

If you seriously think he'll give up Snowden over this, I'd recommend institutionalization.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Snowden is not who you think he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998


Perhaps, perhaps not, but BO is definitely the cretin I think he is...
 Quoting: davvi

Haha, agreed.

Whoever Snowden is, he's not enough of a fulcrum to get this kind of leverage.
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If I were Putin I would start a World campaign to boycott every American product until the U.S is totally bankrupt and can't even afford to have an Army or Police.

Start a world campaign Putin. The rest of the world is with you. Lets take down the World's Bullie for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60002153


We will always have more money for an army. The Iron Bank is cool like that ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60040675


Yea not to mention that when the US economy collapses, so does the rest of the world. Except north Korea. They only have a cup of rice a day anyway. That would be like teaching your worst enemy a lesson by torching your own wealth. Central bank and IMF. Everyone is in bed together and the walls are covered in butt lube.
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If I were Putin I would start a World campaign to boycott every American product until the U.S is totally bankrupt and can't even afford to have an Army or Police.

Start a world campaign Putin. The rest of the world is with you. Lets take down the World's Bullie for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60002153


HA! Shows what you know. America doesnt make shit anymore. We just print worthless fiat money and put the rest of the world to work. Shoot 50% of this country quit looking for jobs because flipping burgers is beneath them. Sound sustainable right?
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If I were Putin I would start a World campaign to boycott every American product until the U.S is totally bankrupt and can't even afford to have an Army or Police.

Start a world campaign Putin. The rest of the world is with you. Lets take down the World's Bullie for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60002153


HA! Shows what you know. America doesnt make shit anymore. We just print worthless fiat money and put the rest of the world to work. Shoot 50% of this country quit looking for jobs because flipping burgers is beneath them. Sound sustainable right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49311670


hmm

youknow
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obama is hell bent on destroying us, and this just might be the trigger. This is an act of war against another country, who is not afraid of the pos in the White House.
Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!!
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This is silly.

First the US Treasury was abolished as part of the US Government in 1913. THe current Treasury is part of the World Bank, a liason with the Fed.

The Treasury is an independent corporation of Delaware, for profit. The owners and board of directors is a closely-guarded secret.

Thus, the Secret Service works not for the US Government per se, but an independent corporation.

This isn't USA business, actually. Treasury is a wholly-owned Israeli/City of London Banker subsidiary, both legally and de jure.

[link to ppjg.me]

Here is a starter for those who are interested in the way the world is really organized, not the funny bedtime stories we are told by the media, designed for those of 80 IQ.

This is a major cloth, with many threads. Warning for those to start to look - you will end up in a very different world when you see by whom and how the world is run. ... you've been warned.

Snowdon must be a bankers/mossad asset, or he'd have outed some of the 911 stuff that the Russians have been pouring out. He's just a little distraction....give the crowds a thrill and they think they've learned something. Limited hangout.
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Jesus H. Christ, you Putin tards are a fucking trip. All because he's mean to the gays .........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59564876


Stopped reading right there - if you want to be taken serious and want to present facts, then please don't start your posts with infantile homo jokes. We know you're "butthurt" (literally) but it won't bring your point across, if you have one.
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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So they arrested dude and they are stretching calling it a kidnapping because they were a little sneaky in how they cornered him and the snowden link is nothing but speculation from some other dude.

OK. check.

You ppl "playing along" with the games being played and choosing sides in this melodramatic bullshit are idiots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59193308


Fair - however, can I ask you and everyone else? Lets reverse the tables a second. An American citizen on holiday in (lets say Finland, assume it has a extradition agreement with Russia just as an example) and gets whisked away by Russian FSB agents and is being held on charges of computer crimes and financial fraud in a Siberian Military base.

What will be the US response? GO!
 Quoting: Bes Maat


If the guy 'kidnapped' was someone like this dude, most Americans wouldn't give a fuck what Russia did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37417027


Obviously, and I bet most Russian won't give a damn about this guy either. However, my question was to imagine what the US State Department blondy and red head would say, and can you imagine what CNN would look like? That's what I was talking about. Lets kick it up, lets say "Iran" "kidnapped" a US citizens, whoops...happened before, they arrested hikers that crossed illegally across their borders. That was a media circus for a while, and only because Iran, unlike the USA, actually enforces immigration laws. chuckle
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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Great.

I've been waiting for a bogus "Archduke Franz Ferdinand" type excuse to be manufactured that will touch off the open warfare phase of WWIII.

Maybe this is it.
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If I were Putin I would start a World campaign to boycott every American product until the U.S is totally bankrupt and can't even afford to have an Army or Police.

Start a world campaign Putin. The rest of the world is with you. Lets take down the World's Bullie for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60002153


HA! Shows what you know. America doesnt make shit anymore. We just print worthless fiat money and put the rest of the world to work. Shoot 50% of this country quit looking for jobs because flipping burgers is beneath them. Sound sustainable right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49311670


hmm

youknow
 Quoting: Franz Joseph 47069856


You want to boycott anything? Stop using Petro Dollar for trade, stop using visa and master cards, stop using Barclay's HSBC Bank of America - you know what I'm getting at. It's corporations and banks we need to boycott not products.

Oh and, stop watching CNN, BBC, Sky etc.
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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That is hardcore. Wo.

The US should not be kidnapping.
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I get ur point yet to tptb it's just semantics. Obama, Putin, international banksters, they can justify anything.
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putin goes missing many people worry

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I owe Snowden an apology for my earlier comments.

Turns out he did reveal much more, including re the NSA being an instrument of Israel (WSWS website, September 13, 2013). Israel has been spying on our president, congress and judiciary, including the Supreme Court and filtering the information before sharing it with the USA. Clear as can be.

It was the media folk to whom he gave this information who deep-sixed it.

Hope he remains safe and sound, and doesn't cut any deals with Hilary or her neocon associates.

I hereby apologize and extend warm regards to Mr. Snowden.

CH

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I owe Snowden an apology for my earlier comments.

Turns out he did reveal much more, including re the NSA being an instrument of Israel (WSWS website, September 13, 2013). Israel has been spying on our president, congress and judiciary, including the Supreme Court and filtering the information before sharing it with the USA. Clear as can be.

It was the media folk to whom he gave this information who deep-sixed it.

Hope he remains safe and sound, and doesn't cut any deals with Hilary or her neocon associates.

I hereby apologize and extend warm regards to Mr. Snowden.

CH
 Quoting: Crazy Harriet

oops
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USA is desperate for all out war.. too bad russia & china is smart enough not to fall for the trap or else..deaddead
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USA is desperate for all out war.. too bad russia & china is smart enough not to fall for the trap or else..deaddead
 Quoting: Truth_Is_a_Menace4Sure


I don't think you really understand what Snowden is saying:

I owe Snowden an apology ... Turns out he did reveal much more, including re the NSA being an instrument of Israel (WSWS website, September 13, 2013). Israel has been spying on our president, congress and judiciary, including the Supreme Court and filtering the information before sharing it with the USA...
 Quoting: Crazy Harriet


This info ^ reveals that it is not US who "is desperate for all out war" but Israel
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Maybe Russia will abduct Obama's husband





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