Israel only fires when fired at.

You are "spiritual" now?

In May of 2013 Israel bombed Syria. And for what reason?
How many Israelis have died, and how many Muslims have died since 1949?
Take..... your time.

Only one side is "bloodthirsty," and THAT is the side you support and defend.


One side wants to live.

The other side wants them all dead.

Norman Finkelstein is a righteous thorn in the side of Israel.

Blood on the proud hands of the blood thirsty.

[link to www.think-israel.org]

Palestine has shrunk over 90% since 1949. Israel continues to build on land it is not supposed too.

Lavon Affair
USS Liberty
& God knows how many others that got away.

The Fogel Family Massacre

Do some of you also celebrate by yelling and giving candy to each other?

[link to pamelageller.com]

Israel is a lunatic state. We reap what we have sown.
God eXtortion.
Christ haters.

Lie.

Don't pretend you care about Christ or good or evil. You do not.

Who STILL have a right to live there and not be targeted for destruction by Islamic evil fanatics.

Repetition does not make your point any more salient. It just makes you appear like a histrionic fool. I have studied many spiritual traditions and have posted under a variety of user names and ac acounts over many years at this website. I have never condoned violence or hatred toward any group ever. I have always advocated for non-violent resolution of crises.

I do not parade my spiritual beliefs but I do speak out for tolerance of differences and appeal to the core of values that form the essence of spiritual aspiration that unites all humankind.

I do not believe the modern state of Israel is functioning under some kind of divine sanction and I do not believe they have been fair in their dealings with the Palestinian peoples. Do I think this justifies violence towards them? No I do not. But, I do understand that people under the yoke of injustice and oppression tend to lash out in their attempts to throw off that oppression. A just and negotiated peace has always been possible in this region but it seems the ambitions of the zionist state, fortified as it is by American dollars and technology, means they will not treat the Palestinian areas as anything but conquered and subject peoples.

I believe this area of the world, as it is considered holy by many groups, should be as inclusive as possible to the many faith groups that have at one time or another called this area home. Finding a way forward in peace will not be achieved with bullets and bombs, but with good will and friendship which is yearned for and believed in by many on all sides of this tormented region.

Oh realllllly. What is it then there smarty pants? 80%? 89%? Let's here it it lad.

"One of the controversial subjects that comes out of the 6 day war is the
Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.

There is speculation about this , especially as the US and Israel are meant
to be allies, right at least on paper.

The Liberty was not just a floating radio set snooping on the progress of
the war. Its more complexe than that. Because the US embassy in beirut could
mounder all the traffic, even tape Israeli pilots talking back and forth
when they hit the Liberty. But for that matter, the Egyptian embassy in
Jordan could listen to the radio traffic, and it was much closer than the
Liberty. So what the US ship doing there ?

Well it turns out, that it was one of the most sophisticated spy ships of
its time making a war map.

Everytime any Israeli, anywhere transmitted, whether walkie-talkie,
aircraft, tank radio, ship, the ship recorders voice and indexed it with the
direction and strenght of the signal. The ship swept up everything in the
airwaves while noting, the location of every speck of electronic dust, that
you might call it in Israel. And since it didnt have computers on board. It
compressed everything electronically and did high speed transmission to a
land station on Cyprus where the British had one of the largest electronic
listening posts in the world. There computers would decode the traffic,
plotting military transmissions and telephone calls, etc. And then the
nature of the calls were sorted. Locations of major Israeli headquarters,
small regiments, battalions, individual units, and in this way the british
were making good on their promise to support the Arab case in Palestine,
which they had made at the time of the Suez debacle in 1956.

Now with all this electronic screening and all this stuff, it was possible
to produce an electronic, an accurate electronic map of every Israeli troop
movement and position practically down to the man, and with this information
which the US and British were sending to the Arabs. The Arabs might have
been able to turn the war around.

Now as the Israeli's were pulling their troops of the Sinai, to deal with
the Syrians in the north, the Liberty was able to inform the Egyptians of
the holes in the Israeli line, and this was of course intolerable for the
Israeli's, who were already upset because the US had tipped Jordan off with
important intelligence information.

So they had to do something about it, but they had a PR problem obviously,
and so a plane was sent to map the Liberty's location and shortly after the
plane flew over loaded with electronic information gathering equipment. From
this flight there was no doubt about the battle information being processed
, and that it originated from the ship, and given what had happened on the
field of battle, the Israeli's were faced with a choice of 25,000 dead Jews
or 1 American ship.

They opted for for the ship. Within hours of the incident the Pentagon
released a media statement saying the Liberty had been stationed there to
facilitate communications incase Americans citizens had to be evacuated, and
they obviously couldnt say they had been forwarding information to the
Egyptians.

The press didnt buy that. Then the Pentagon floated the rumour that the ship
was their to spy on Russian installations ostensibly in Egypt, but there
were only 12 miles away from Gaza, and that didnt quite fly either so and by
the way the final Coup de gra was the Liberty was not under the command of
the US Navy, it was under command of guess who, the National Security
Agency. If you know its mission, you understand what thats all about."

[link to lists101.his.com]

You don't care about truth. You just lie.


"hear"

America needs to "Dump the Israeli's". We can't afford this religious schism anymore. Our politicians have been bribed for decades into an oxymoron dubbed "Peace in the Middle East".
There is no such thing as apartheid appears imminent.
My children, nor should the unborn from any land carry this burden any longer.

Fire in Odessa
Since April 17, 2014

Answer this question, then:

Do you believe Israel should have a right to exit----and exist as an autonoms, Perpetual Jewish state?

Wanted you know....
Waited.

What's wrong? Can't answer a simple question?

89% since the terrorist British Mandate.
:o)

You claimed to be fair-minded. Can you point us to a single post you have ever written condemning anything anyone has ever done against Israel?

Please quote what you say makes me "appear like a histrionic fool." I am quite certain that you cannot do this either. The truth does not matter to you. You just lie.

And you shamelessly lie while presuming to be true and spiritual...

I feel no need to go through the bother of providing any documentation to you that will not matter to you anyway. The truth does not matter to you.

Answer this question, then:

Do you believe Israel should have a right to exit----and exist as an autonoms, Perpetual Jewish state?

Wanted you know....
Waited.

Personally, I don't agree with such a notion. My understanding of Hebraic faith is that the concept of Israel is more a spiritual understanding (kind of like the notion of Camelot for instance) and was not intended to be realized as a political entity. They seem to be trying to bring about a messianic age by forcing the situation on the ground.

Still, I am sympathetic to the Jews (most of whom I think are basically just trying to get along like everyone else) and I understand the justification for having a homeland set aside for them given the historical mistreatment and misunderstanding they have endured. And I suppose the area of the Palestine Mandate was as logical as any other. I only wish they acknowledged the right of the Palestinians to a state of their own in the same region.

And I wish that both of these states functioned in a secular manner with respect for religious and ethnic minorities living within their borders.

I think the most logical solution is to make Jerusalem a special city governed by some kind of international ecumenical group that can respect the various groups who all consider it part of their religious heritage.