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Can statistic be manipulated?

 
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Can statistic be manipulated?
I don't know math,I was never that good at the set ways in which math is taught, so my question is...can statistics be manipulated? Does that even make sense?
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It is easy to manipulate statistics. Whatever your input is influences your answers. If your input is not based on an adequate sample your answers will be different than if using a large population.
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I don't know math,I was never that good at the set ways in which math is taught, so my question is...can statistics be manipulated? Does that even make sense?
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If in hospital bed keep your shoes on. Ststistically all who die in hospital are in a bed and have no shoes on.
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You can prove any point with statistics, and then disprove it again with more statistics. depending on the angle you view it. statistics are useless. Just a tool used on the weak minded.
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Statistics are by definition a manipulation. You manipulate data to produce an "average/mean," or when you want to understand the confidence interval of a certain set of data. Graphs are visual manipulations of said data, as well, so you can manipulate statistical data by creating a graph or chart.
Numbers don't lie, if that's what you're asking. They can be used to misrepresent, to mislead. If I told you that (regardless of your views)a certain gas composed 1% of the total atmosphere, this might perhaps mislead you into thinking, "1% that isn't much..."
But what if I told you that gas was a deadly neurotoxin that would be effective at a composition of 0.5% of the total atmosphere? Big change in how you perceive things...
That's the power of misusing statistics. You need to have a firm understanding of what the material is that the data is discussing. You need to be able to understand the method that derives the numbers, or else the numbers have no meaning.
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It's very difficult to get a straight answer from a statistician. One I hired asked me point blank what answer I wanted. When I said "the truth" he rolled his eyes and laughed and said he's see what he could do.
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How to Lie with Statistics [Paperback]
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Statistics are content. Context is what gives meaning to content. Content by it's self means nothing.

Example: Headline reads, "Burn Ban". From one point of view this could be seen as an infringement of our rights. But in the context of a severe drought it could be seen as a protection for us.
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95% of the statistics you read on the internet are made up.
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they can be presented in ways to persuade opinion.... like look at these #s....

Thread: States using most welfare are red states

a quote:
"a statician uses statistics like a drunk man uses a lamp post, for support rather than illumination"
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Is that a real question OP?

Ask your minister of finance who that kind of guy in your country.
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no of course not
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no of course not
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Statistic - poll - survey ?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

Yeah they all can be manipulated...
The truth can't be told, it has to be realized.

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Ofcourse statistics can be manipulated!

But it's EASY to catch, if you just listen...

Statistic 1- Roughly 50% of the earths population is female.

Statistic 2- Roughly 97% of white republicans, who are registered to vote, say "XXXXXXX".

Which statistic is true and which is manipulated???
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I don't know math,I was never that good at the set ways in which math is taught, so my question is...can statistics be manipulated? Does that even make sense?
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you just have to look at US unemployment statistics to figure out the answer to your question lol.
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So we can't rely on statistics!?
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A statistic is whatever someone says it is.
Look at Barrys' job numbers, there's a real laugh.
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That's why they were invented. Most people are intimidated by numbers, so it's an easy way to get people to shut off a big part of their brain and blindly accept whatever they are being told.

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Easily
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I don't know math,I was never that good at the set ways in which math is taught, so my question is...can statistics be manipulated? Does that even make sense?
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Hey dummy, who invented statistic...anyway, it was not invented by an inorganic computer...know what I mean.
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Have you never heard of the saying: Little lie, big lie, statistics.
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statistically speaking,……..Yes spock
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I don't know math,I was never that good at the set ways in which math is taught, so my question is...can statistics be manipulated? Does that even make sense?
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in our college statistics classes they taught us that the first thing in statistics you need to know is you can make statistics say anything you want. Just leave something out, and you will get you results. Besides the obvious scams of internet polling. Statistic cpscams. Anytime they say statistics say this's or that. They are lying





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