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Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ?
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Paradise
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7/10/2006 12:38 PM
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. . . put up a name and see what others think . . .
personally i can't think of anyone right now but maybe you can
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Mister Obvious  
Senior Forum Moderator
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7/10/2006 12:39 PM
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Wise, Master Yoda is...
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 110667
7/10/2006 12:42 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
If you are a fool, how do you expect to recognize someone wise? Perhaps someone truly wise, given that you are yourself a fool, would appear to you a fool. |
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Gods Brother
User ID: 105835
7/10/2006 12:44 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
There are quite a few wise people on this planet. Most don't advertise, however, because they're not selling anything.
In a more commercial sense, I think the Dalai Lama has much wisdom to offer. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 115098
7/10/2006 1:03 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
R.G. Stair
overcomerministry.org |
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c.f.
User ID: 73918
7/10/2006 1:21 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Bodman...one of the good guys, believe it or not.
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Caligulas
User ID: 113502
7/10/2006 1:21 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Clearly,I'm not wise,my girlfriend is pregnant |
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Lucifer
User ID: 113854
7/10/2006 1:29 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Well, all of us can say "Me"... that's a given, especially in these last days;) but personally I don't see anyone sticking out like Einstein, Marley, Lennon etc. hmmm... sad. |
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Lucifer
User ID: 113854
7/10/2006 1:34 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Personally I'm quite happy with their work... funny enough it's all "Anonymous Coward"s putting them down... That comes with the territorry of revealing truth in a world not yet overcome with good - people will use it for evil... doesn't make the source evil. "Don't look at them teachings, look at them teacher" as Bob Marley put it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2529
7/10/2006 1:35 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
John the Beloved. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2529
7/10/2006 1:38 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
There are more than six billion human beings upon the earth at this time. Less than one percent (sixty million) of these holds the rest in chains of slavery and inequality from which there is no escape. The promise of becoming one of the elite—one of this blessed one percent, assures the efficacy of the rationale for the chains—work hard enough in the fields of slavery, and one day, you might become a master...
Here is that truth:
For every one person who can claim success in reaching the standard of accepted self-awareness and prosperity, nine others suffer from the means used to achieve this prosperity without the ability to attain it for themselves. In the race to be counted of worth in a world of values and standards set to benefit those who set them, no notice is given to the devastating effects of the contest.
“Freedom” is an abstract idea perpetuated by those in power over others. Evident forced slavery has simply been replaced with tacit slavery. Rising to the sound of a rooster’s crow to harness the mule to the plow, has been replaced with the obtrusive sound of an alarm clock that signals the beginning of another enslaved day. In both types of slavery, the wise ones are forced to work or they will die. The former was provided food, clothing and shelter; the latter is given a piece of paper that must be exchanged for commodities owned by another slave owner.
The slave’s desire to live enriches the landowner for whom he works, and also the merchant from whom he must purchase life. The former was forced into chains if work and rules were not completed as established by the master; the latter is locked in a jail cell for the same reasons. Neither chose to be born into slavery; each would have rather been born the child of a slave owner, who never saw the butt end of a mule pulling a harrow or who will never hear the sound of a time punch.
Though modern owners do not outwardly display their employees as personal human property, the slave trade has transformed itself into a shared commodity of the corporations and wealthy of the world. Within the commercial organizations that buy and sell goods, make products, and provide services, there exists a proprietary implication that if a slave refuses to work for one business, in order to remain alive, the rebellious runaway must submit to another. By running away from one plantation, the need to eat, be clothed and housed necessitates the acceptance of another...
...Money has become the determining value by which others are appreciated or depreciated among the wise ones. A brain surgeon spends his time studying and gaining experience to save lives. These doctors allow slaves to remain well enough to continue working in the fields where they pick the strawberries and milk the cows from which these scarlet fruits are covered with white delight to satisfy the surgeon’s palate.
Without something to eat, from where would the doctor get the energy to save lives? How many lives does he save in comparison to how many are saved by the produce of the hardworking fieldworkers? It takes only one doctor to operate on a brain, but ninety-nine migrant workers to assure the harvest doesn’t spoil in the countryside fields.
The “ones” worth is augmented, not only by the values they have placed upon their own abilities, but also by the prospect that by the sweat of the brows of unseen others of lesser means, their worth can be increased. Appalling to a sense of human decency, corporations and capitalistic business enterprises offer stock in their companies to the “ones,” promising that by paying low wages, few benefits, and keeping the ninety-nine percent in slavery, a healthy dividend will be paid for doing absolutely nothing! These stocks are more precious to the holder than the lives of the oppressed needed to create their value.
To avoid personal accountability for actions deemed necessary in pursuing profit, the wise ones found a way to detach themselves from the stigma of greed and merchant despotism. The introduction of the “corporation” and “charitable foundations” created entities as abstract as the values placed upon them.
Corporations are groups of wise ones acting as a single entity with one purpose only—profit. Charitable organizations are set up to bring value to the “ones” who set them up, or donate to them, with attempts to hide profits and deceive themselves and the rest of the “ninety-nine” that by what they are doing, they are solving the world’s problems. Without taking away the purpose for which they are established, corporations and charitable foundations cannot acknowledge that the real problem is slavery—and they do absolutely nothing about this!
"Profit" is the monetary worth that remains after the value of the “ninety-nine” has been subtracted from the value of the “one.” To increase the sum of this insensitive equation, the value of either the “one” or the “ninety-nine” must be decreased proportionally to obtain the desired amount of profit. Since corporations and foundations have replaced the “one;” or better, the “ones” have become the corporations and foundations, and most business laws protect and secure the value of the person against these entities; only one determinant can be lowered to increase the overall profit. The equation is: (corporate/foundation value) – (human value) = (profit). These entities will not by choice devalue themselves; therefore the only determinant left to be reduced is human value."
Logic and reason will convince the public. It has to be presented unlike it has ever been presented before. It must come from one who knows and has witnessed hundreds of years of human existence, witnessing every attempt by the "wise ones" (Homo sapiens) to bring peace to their world. |
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Lucifer
User ID: 113854
7/10/2006 1:39 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
John the Beloved is actually Mary Magdalene. True True. I have a short piece on it on my home page.
[link to www.soulearthforce.info] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103782
7/10/2006 1:39 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Dalai Lama |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2529
7/10/2006 1:40 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Mary is dead and gone. John is here now.
Big difference. |
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Man 2.0
User ID: 74224
7/10/2006 1:46 PM
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yes |
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prophet
User ID: 76553
7/10/2006 1:47 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
whoever is led by the Holy Spirit is wise in spiritual matters
though the world calls them a fool Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114312
Very wise words. Those words you should all adhere to and follow in the Messiahs footsteps. |
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Lucifer
User ID: 113854
7/10/2006 1:50 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Man there are many messiahas here |
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prophet
User ID: 76553
7/10/2006 1:54 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Man there are many messiahas here Quoting: Lucifer 113854
Yes but only one real Messiaha. You lack confidence in your decisions and you need to move forward and renounce all evil which in turn will make you a better person and one which the Messiaha will be proud.
Good luck with the job. |
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Mr. Nirum
User ID: 771
7/10/2006 1:58 PM
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Gary Null is very wise!!!
[link to www.garynull.com] |
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Lucifer
User ID: 113854
7/10/2006 2:01 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
And to the one that is an Anonymous Coward. I don't care about what I look like from the dark. I'd be surprised if you said anything else. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103782
7/10/2006 2:03 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Yay. My guy wins. No one objects |
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Chaiyah
User ID: 112924
7/10/2006 2:04 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
There's no way to be wise when the Truth is hidden.
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Phasesphere
Captain Trypps
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7/10/2006 2:05 PM
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Wisdom is something I have prayed for over the years. Not Money (The Mark of the Beast), popularity, power, material possessions or any other man-made desire. Wisdom is ellusive. It is a continual struggle to maintain. I do not claim to be a Wise-Man, but I pray for wisdom every day. One "Key" to obtaining wisdom lies in the first 9 chapters of Proverbs. Read it yourself. It explains how wisdom was here even before the universe was created. Then read at least one proverb every day and try to live with the knowledge that you have aquired about being WISE. Peace to everyone even our enemies, even if we are the enemy. Later 
All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players, performers and portrayers. Each anothers audience, outside the gilded cage, -Neal Peart
Face your fear, accept your role, It is what it is.-Phasesphere
Time is a face on the water. -Stephen KIng |
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Charlane
User ID: 115111
7/10/2006 2:13 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
2529, that's a good synopsis. We know what the problem is.
Solutions? AND on an individual basis? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74891
7/10/2006 2:13 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
a wiseman certainly acknowledgeany attempts atbeing placed on a pedestal. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103782
7/10/2006 2:18 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
 <---this guy has got it goin on! |
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Zaphod Beeblbrox
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7/10/2006 2:19 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
I think Bill Maher is the epitomy of wisdom in the world today! Followed closely by John Stewart.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 115114
7/10/2006 2:20 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
I can, but no one wants to listen to them... |
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Lucifer
User ID: 113854
7/10/2006 2:25 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
Oh yeah, Jon and Bill... almost forgot... I like Alex Jones and David Icke too, but I also laugh at them. Hmmmm... Nelson Mandela, Kofi Annan are good too but I'm a bit disappointed they keep too quiet. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/10/2006 2:28 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
The all powerful Oprah.
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Paradise
User ID: 112939 (OP)
7/10/2006 3:17 PM | | Re: Even the Wise Are Foolish In These Later Days, Can You Name One Person Among Us Who Is Truly Wise ? | Quote |
. . . still looking . . .
maybe the wise are waiting for us to be ready
to accept their presence here and to pay attention
i'm worried that they may stay in hiding
because we will pester them ceaselessly
with tests and trials instead of learning
what we need to learn
or UNlearning what we need to UNlearn
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