Phenibut

I ordered it for insomnia, LOL.

I take it daily for SA.

? Does it eventually help insomnia? I sleep 5 hours a week.

Thanks for the bump. Most nights, I don't sleep at all. Got any suggestions, smartass?

This stupid vid convinced me, I could sleep.

Works for my insomnia and social anxiety.

I take 1G every morning of bulk powder in my juice of choice.

Phenibut kicks in subtly about three hours after I take my morning dose and tapers off five hours after it kicks in - that's my experience. The 'chill-like' effect lingers for the remainder of the day, night and into the following morning. Emphasis on subtle, but that's all I am looking for. I still have my 'edge' during waking hours.

I sleep through the night, a full seven or more hours straight, and wake feeling refreshed in a neutral mood (it has been years of insomnia-wrecked nights and high anxiety days, so these are huge gains of taking Phenibut, for me). With Phenibut I feel an increased sense of calm and centered focus and am more relaxed around people. No jitters, no 'high', just the best of my 'normal' self.

I have been using the same dose, daily for a month. I have gotten consistent, daily results, which is a first, for me. I could never bring myself to try sleeping pills or ask for Rx meds, but tried every herb, alcohol and form of meditation, which would work, but not on a daily basis, eventually growing tired of spending money and inconsistent results. My research led me to GABA receptors, which led me to nootropics and Phenibut.

My expectation is to use daily, without increasing the dose, as long results are consistent. At the very least, I would like to run Phenibut for six months, to normalize my sleep and social patterns. It is so nice to hit REM sleep and remember my dreams again!

The one side effect I have is low alcohol tolerance (one drink is equal to three drinks; great for a lazy weekend excuse to take a nap!). Caffeine does counteract this side effect, as needed or desired, for me, without experiencing a caffeine crash afterwards.

Ciao!

Hi op. Have you tried magnesium?

Yep, does not work.

I have a huge can of it and I'm afraid to use it.

:-(

Why? Did you watch the Vid, I posted?

I will now. Thanks.

Just be careful with it. I'm battling a drinking problem, obviously the 2 don't mix. I have an addictive personality which hopefully you don't.

Im trying half a gram in the morning.

Its hiding in my closet, I don't know why I'm afraid of it.

I'll do the 3 days on 3 days off and see what happens. I don't drink. O:-)

i use noopep, choline, some racetams, and oxford commas.

gonna have to checkout phenibut since I keephearing aboutit

I'm curious, why do you have it? Why did you order it? I ordered it for insomnia.

I'm a nervous wreck. Have been since I gave birth.
I never had the desire to harm my kids or anyone, thank the lawwwwd, but it was a direct result of childbirth.

here is another vid about it, just be careful.
I did not order from his recommended place, but another
[link to www.youtube.com]

Sounds like it will work out great for you.

I'd be very wary of taking it more often than once or twice a week. I did quite a bit of research on it to see if it could be used instead of a benzo for anxiety, which it can, but has slow onset, taking as much as two hours or more to kick in. It's probably great for people that use them once or twice a week as opposed to daily.

It upregulates dopamine, and has its effects on GABA B. So basically you feel good and have less anxiety and tend to have great sleep. It has a long half life for what it does, about 5 hours. It supposedly helps up HGH which is why a lot of body builders seem to use it.

It's good for what it does, but should be approached cautiously for many of the above reasons. Bear in mind this is a prescription drug in some countries for things like Alcohol Withdrawl and Anxiety. It builds tolerance fast. Additionally a lot of people seem to think it isn't working and redose. This stuff can produce pretty much a similar hangover to alcohol.

It's probably less addictive than short acting Benzos but people end up using it daily at greater amounts and end up just as addicted. Additionally the fact that is works on GABA B is a problem because Benzos work primarily on GABA A, so if you are in. Phenibut Withdrawl a benzo won't alleviate all the symptoms.

Just because this is legal OTC doesn't mean it is safe.

If you want to read some horror stories of people who took this stuff you can read some on this site:

[link to www.mindandmuscle.net]

Personally I think it would be pretty safe if used sparingly and not in large amounts. I'd never use more than maybe 2 grams unless you're a pretty big person. I'd probably use it no more than twice a week and not on consecutive days.

how big a dose? I take 1 gram once or twice a week. I feel great on those days, but it seems to be making my anxiety worse on the days I'm not on it ...

It shouldn't "agitate" you when you are on it, I find it very relaxing. Gives you kind of an "ooooooh yeah ... " feeling ...

However, I do seem more agitated than normal on the days I'm off it. Don't know if that's just my imagination for what ...

If you are more agitated feeling on days not taking it but only taking it twice a week it probably isn't rebound anxiety from lack of use, but it is the feeling that sets up the repeated use. You feel less stressed. You don't have bad effects, you use again. This stuff is cheap too comparatively. 1kg might set you back $185. If you took two grams a day that is nearly a two year supply. I think that is why people run into issues with it.

+ paradoxical symptoms

lef.org has the best affordable Melatonin out there abd it works great.

BTW, I got a new trick to put you to sleep and it works better than doing a yoga type mantra while laying down

Go to bed
Make sure the room is pitch black and close your eyes.
Now concentrate on looking with your eyes and let nithing else enter your mind. You see nothing and will quickly nod off out of I guess boredom. Works great every time.

any other Phenibut users on here? or know of something better ?

Would be nice.

how about L-theanine .. or inositol ?