First pictures from inside the 'crater at the end of the world' | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079795 United States 07/18/2014 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe there is a methane hydrate layer down below (which looks like ice). And some melted (forming methane gas) and the ground "burped" and made a polite hole in the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079795 Good point! Thread: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun. Except; Quoting: El Quisqueyano Methane hydrates have been found in the subsurface in permafrost regions, but most occur in oceanic sediments hundreds of meters below the sea floor where water depths are greater than about 500 meters Thanks! I was just supposing based on things I've read, and really had no factual evidence that methane hydrate could be found in permafrost regions, thanks for information. Seems like a gas bubble rose from below, based on viewing photos and pictures, so it reminded me of methane hydrate trying to escape, instead of water, earth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10044600 United States 07/18/2014 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe there is a methane hydrate layer down below (which looks like ice). And some melted (forming methane gas) and the ground "burped" and made a polite hole in the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079795 Good point! Thread: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun. Except; Quoting: El Quisqueyano Methane hydrates have been found in the subsurface in permafrost regions, but most occur in oceanic sediments hundreds of meters below the sea floor where water depths are greater than about 500 meters Thanks! I was just supposing based on things I've read, and really had no factual evidence that methane hydrate could be found in permafrost regions, thanks for information. Seems like a gas bubble rose from below, based on viewing photos and pictures, so it reminded me of methane hydrate trying to escape, instead of water, earth. It does, back after the gulf oil spill happened there were lots of threads about methane hydrates and I remember seeing something once that shows how it rises thru the earth slowly enough to make it appear as if something "bored" it's way up thru the ground nice and neat...I'll try and find the visuals to show that...but it makes sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30235183 Romania 07/18/2014 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31673003 [link to siberiantimes.com] The first expedition to the scene - the scientists have just returned - took these epic pictures of the hole, including the darkening pattern on the inner rim. They found the crater - around up to 70 metres deep - has an icy lake at its bottom, and water is cascading down its eroding permafrost walls. The darkening pattern on the inner rim tells that there was a high temperature that caused burning and produced ash. This is also consistent with the 7th photo showing a vitrified shiny inner wall! Maybe it's a meteorite crash site. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30235183 Romania 07/18/2014 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31673003 [link to siberiantimes.com] The first expedition to the scene - the scientists have just returned - took these epic pictures of the hole, including the darkening pattern on the inner rim. They found the crater - around up to 70 metres deep - has an icy lake at its bottom, and water is cascading down its eroding permafrost walls. The darkening pattern on the inner rim tells that there was a high temperature that caused burning and produced ash. This is also consistent with the 7th photo showing a vitrified shiny inner wall! Maybe it's a meteorite crash site. It could be also the result of an underground methane hydrate deposit that exploded being ignited by a lightning. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31673003 United States 07/18/2014 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe there is a methane hydrate layer down below (which looks like ice). And some melted (forming methane gas) and the ground "burped" and made a polite hole in the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079795 Good point! Thread: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun. Except; Quoting: El Quisqueyano Methane hydrates have been found in the subsurface in permafrost regions, but most occur in oceanic sediments hundreds of meters below the sea floor where water depths are greater than about 500 meters Thanks! I was just supposing based on things I've read, and really had no factual evidence that methane hydrate could be found in permafrost regions, thanks for information. Seems like a gas bubble rose from below, based on viewing photos and pictures, so it reminded me of methane hydrate trying to escape, instead of water, earth. Plenty of info to back the claims. Nov 30, 2013 Off Siberia’s Arctic coast, the seafloor belches methane [link to arstechnica.com] Jan 19, 2012 Arctic Methane Outgassing On The East Siberian Shelf: A Primer Plus an Interview with Dr. Natalia Shakhova [link to thinkprogress.org] April 17, 2008 Melting Methane: A Storehouse of Greenhouse Gases Is Opening in Siberia [link to www.spiegel.de] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48348855 United States 07/18/2014 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kerbal Space Program - Rods From The Gods [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10044600 United States 07/18/2014 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31673003 [link to siberiantimes.com] The first expedition to the scene - the scientists have just returned - took these epic pictures of the hole, including the darkening pattern on the inner rim. They found the crater - around up to 70 metres deep - has an icy lake at its bottom, and water is cascading down its eroding permafrost walls. The darkening pattern on the inner rim tells that there was a high temperature that caused burning and produced ash. This is also consistent with the 7th photo showing a vitrified shiny inner wall! Maybe it's a meteorite crash site. It could be also the result of an underground methane hydrate deposit that exploded being ignited by a lightning. This is always what makes me think of the term "thunderbolts of the gods" when related to earth changes like this that could possibly coincide with a binary planet or some such galatic traveling companion that is seen very rarely in this scope. I think humanity has witnessed stuff like this before and when you look around at how many people are going completely off their rockers, it's gotta make one wonder, what's triggering the energies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30235183 Romania 07/18/2014 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31673003 [link to siberiantimes.com] The first expedition to the scene - the scientists have just returned - took these epic pictures of the hole, including the darkening pattern on the inner rim. They found the crater - around up to 70 metres deep - has an icy lake at its bottom, and water is cascading down its eroding permafrost walls. The darkening pattern on the inner rim tells that there was a high temperature that caused burning and produced ash. This is also consistent with the 7th photo showing a vitrified shiny inner wall! Maybe it's a meteorite crash site. It could be also the result of an underground methane hydrate deposit that exploded being ignited by a lightning. This is always what makes me think of the term "thunderbolts of the gods" when related to earth changes like this that could possibly coincide with a binary planet or some such galatic traveling companion that is seen very rarely in this scope. I think humanity has witnessed stuff like this before and when you look around at how many people are going completely off their rockers, it's gotta make one wonder, what's triggering the energies. TPTB blamed global warming on CO2, while turning a blind eye to the massive releases of methane from the seabed and now from permafrost. The fact is that the warming was noticed much more in the temperature of the oceanic water than in the air, so the source of warming is inside earth, this is why the permafrost is melting. |
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Lil Sis User ID: 60165397 United States 07/18/2014 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe there is a methane hydrate layer down below (which looks like ice). And some melted (forming methane gas) and the ground "burped" and made a polite hole in the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079795 Usually a burp would leave a messier hole. ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50990894 Canada 07/18/2014 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tend to agree. Keep this subject short, bigger fish to work on this morning! or the hole is the real story and they downed a plane to keep us from paying attention to it everything is relevant in this moment- dont be so quick to write anything off. have we learned nothing on glp yet?! |
Lil Sis User ID: 60165397 United States 07/18/2014 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The very straight verticle striations would indicate that a material harder than methane "machined" the hole in the permafrost. Like metal. You can see them in the last two photos. ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10044600 United States 07/18/2014 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30235183 The darkening pattern on the inner rim tells that there was a high temperature that caused burning and produced ash. This is also consistent with the 7th photo showing a vitrified shiny inner wall! Maybe it's a meteorite crash site. It could be also the result of an underground methane hydrate deposit that exploded being ignited by a lightning. This is always what makes me think of the term "thunderbolts of the gods" when related to earth changes like this that could possibly coincide with a binary planet or some such galatic traveling companion that is seen very rarely in this scope. I think humanity has witnessed stuff like this before and when you look around at how many people are going completely off their rockers, it's gotta make one wonder, what's triggering the energies. TPTB blamed global warming on CO2, while turning a blind eye to the massive releases of methane from the seabed and now from permafrost. The fact is that the warming was noticed much more in the temperature of the oceanic water than in the air, so the source of warming is inside earth, this is why the permafrost is melting. [link to www.planetextinction.com] And it's kinda silly to think any change in human behavior can stop a natural process like that, seems it's a cycle earth goes thru. More than us "killing the planet" |
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TEOTWAIKI User ID: 60105347 United States 07/18/2014 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the pics, OP. 5 stars! We needed a diversion from all the chaos... (When I first saw the photos of the hole a week or so ago, the first thing I said to my wife was, "Why didn't they lower a camera into the hole to see what's at the bottom?") I am a bit confused why a scientific expedition couldn't measure the exact depth of the hole. All they could report was that it's 50-70 meters deep; guess they didn't bring a long enough ball of twine :) |
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BG-Fan User ID: 59478464 United States 07/18/2014 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speaking of expedition... Kinda looks like an ALIENS v PREDATOR bore hole (Antarctica version) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10044600 United States 07/18/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's that mars "impact" from March 2012 also that was found recently...I'm still not really sure it was an IMPACT or rather something similar to a geologic release, but to me it's potentially related...similar planetary effects. Article from May 22 2014 Thread: Brand New Crater on Mars Revealed by Before-and-After Pictures Here’s your “holy frak!” moment for today: the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took an image of a 50-meter wide crater on the Red Planet on March 28, 2012 … but the crater wasn’t there in an image taken on March 27! Quoting: Face Palmer In other words, this crater was spotted less than a day after the impact that formed it! JPL put together a video explaining the particulars: Watch it @ [link to www.slate.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079795 United States 07/18/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe there is a methane hydrate layer down below (which looks like ice). And some melted (forming methane gas) and the ground "burped" and made a polite hole in the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079795 Good point! Thread: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun. Except; Quoting: El Quisqueyano Methane hydrates have been found in the subsurface in permafrost regions, but most occur in oceanic sediments hundreds of meters below the sea floor where water depths are greater than about 500 meters Thanks! I was just supposing based on things I've read, and really had no factual evidence that methane hydrate could be found in permafrost regions, thanks for information. Seems like a gas bubble rose from below, based on viewing photos and pictures, so it reminded me of methane hydrate trying to escape, instead of water, earth. It does, back after the gulf oil spill happened there were lots of threads about methane hydrates and I remember seeing something once that shows how it rises thru the earth slowly enough to make it appear as if something "bored" it's way up thru the ground nice and neat...I'll try and find the visuals to show that...but it makes sense. Sort of like a gas volcano. Maybe some of the craters on this and other planets and moons were, in part, caused by gas bubbles from beneath instead of things hitting from above? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30235183 Romania 07/18/2014 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30235183 It could be also the result of an underground methane hydrate deposit that exploded being ignited by a lightning. This is always what makes me think of the term "thunderbolts of the gods" when related to earth changes like this that could possibly coincide with a binary planet or some such galatic traveling companion that is seen very rarely in this scope. I think humanity has witnessed stuff like this before and when you look around at how many people are going completely off their rockers, it's gotta make one wonder, what's triggering the energies. TPTB blamed global warming on CO2, while turning a blind eye to the massive releases of methane from the seabed and now from permafrost. The fact is that the warming was noticed much more in the temperature of the oceanic water than in the air, so the source of warming is inside earth, this is why the permafrost is melting. [link to www.planetextinction.com] And it's kinda silly to think any change in human behavior can stop a natural process like that, seems it's a cycle earth goes thru. More than us "killing the planet" Yes, the planet has its way of is getting rid of us and looks like it's starting with Russia. Here's from your link: Over the past forty years most of the heat gain has gone into the oceans. Relatively little has been taken up by the land, by trees or by glaciers. The increase in the oceans has been hardly noticed, yet the amount of heat the oceans have absorbed is equivalent to having exploded FOUR Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs every SECOND. The global methane level today is 1,815 ppb. It is more than twice as high as it has been throughout human history. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079795 United States 07/18/2014 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe there is a methane hydrate layer down below (which looks like ice). And some melted (forming methane gas) and the ground "burped" and made a polite hole in the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079795 Good point! Thread: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun. Except; Quoting: El Quisqueyano Methane hydrates have been found in the subsurface in permafrost regions, but most occur in oceanic sediments hundreds of meters below the sea floor where water depths are greater than about 500 meters Thanks! I was just supposing based on things I've read, and really had no factual evidence that methane hydrate could be found in permafrost regions, thanks for information. Seems like a gas bubble rose from below, based on viewing photos and pictures, so it reminded me of methane hydrate trying to escape, instead of water, earth. Plenty of info to back the claims. Nov 30, 2013 Off Siberia’s Arctic coast, the seafloor belches methane [link to arstechnica.com] Jan 19, 2012 Arctic Methane Outgassing On The East Siberian Shelf: A Primer Plus an Interview with Dr. Natalia Shakhova [link to thinkprogress.org] April 17, 2008 Melting Methane: A Storehouse of Greenhouse Gases Is Opening in Siberia [link to www.spiegel.de] Thanks! Interesting to think and wonder about. How could one ever be sure there isn't a methane hydrate layer under them? Maybe sinkholes are due, in part, to something similar? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079795 United States 07/18/2014 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31673003 [link to siberiantimes.com] The first expedition to the scene - the scientists have just returned - took these epic pictures of the hole, including the darkening pattern on the inner rim. They found the crater - around up to 70 metres deep - has an icy lake at its bottom, and water is cascading down its eroding permafrost walls. The darkening pattern on the inner rim tells that there was a high temperature that caused burning and produced ash. This is also consistent with the 7th photo showing a vitrified shiny inner wall! Maybe it's a meteorite crash site. It could be also the result of an underground methane hydrate deposit that exploded being ignited by a lightning. This is always what makes me think of the term "thunderbolts of the gods" when related to earth changes like this that could possibly coincide with a binary planet or some such galatic traveling companion that is seen very rarely in this scope. I think humanity has witnessed stuff like this before and when you look around at how many people are going completely off their rockers, it's gotta make one wonder, what's triggering the energies. Fascinating to go there! I wish I had neighbors with whom I could have similar conversations! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10044600 United States 07/18/2014 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sort of like a gas volcano. Maybe some of the craters on this and other planets and moons were, in part, caused by gas bubbles from beneath instead of things hitting from above? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079795 Interesting timing on your question... This has been a pondering for a while, along the lines of the whole expanding earth theory, atmospheric changes predating significant landscape changes and changes to entire continental boundaries and massive crustal displacement events...it is all connected. The earth isn't a singular organism in and of itself, it's like a cell in the cosmos that is affected by other "cells" in the cosmos, possibly even a potential for mitosis event. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59245951 United States 07/18/2014 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Yamal, a large peninsula jutting into Arctic waters, is Russia's main production area for gas supplied to Europe." Hey.....Isn't there a war or something that hinges on the fact that Russia is supplying Europe with a large amount of gas? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10044600 United States 07/18/2014 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, the planet has its way of is getting rid of us and looks like it's starting with Russia. Here's from your link: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30235183 Over the past forty years most of the heat gain has gone into the oceans. Relatively little has been taken up by the land, by trees or by glaciers. The increase in the oceans has been hardly noticed, yet the amount of heat the oceans have absorbed is equivalent to having exploded FOUR Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs every SECOND. The global methane level today is 1,815 ppb. It is more than twice as high as it has been throughout human history. Well humanity itself grows in a cycle of evolving much like our planet I assume. We utilize everything within our environment at our disposal to replicate and reproduce for a purpose, somewhat like species perfection, eventually throughout many cycle of species it reaches a threshold where it faces an extinction event which enables the INSUFFICIENT parts to extinct and the EFFICIENT parts to evolve or change form to something better utilized by it's "host", in our case the Earth. Part of humanities pattern is the all time battle between good and evil (inside ones own self) the ultimate showdown for a species, learning to live for the best of all instead of a unique perspective, not hive minded rather a step above as it surpasses that kind of PTB versus COMMAN MAN struggle. Larger scale dynamics when you apply SELF responsibility concepts. This is why humans form "energy entities" Tulpas, egregores, things like that, our capacity to surpass the anniahilation of an event our host needs to go thru, it's something we tap into after to ensure a species survival. Possibly... |