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Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane

 
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You think Putin is anymore truthful? wtf That is hilarious if true. I believe Neither nor the Dutch all 3 leave a bad taste in the mouth.
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The dutch are loyal to the Empire.

Putin has morals which your destructive leaders lack
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Hmmm Dutch, morals.....???

You sound like a well traveled intelligent bloke....not.

Anyway, I am not here to debate which asshole in charge is more fucked up than another.

I wear my flag for my people not the assholes in charge and I'd like to know who is taking pot shots at civilians for all our sakes.
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Like Iran Air Flight 655 AND TWA Flight 800???
Like Iran Air Flight 655
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Hey Dutch...look back on this thread and you will see I posted the piece about flight twa 800 exterior entry holes being similar to this one; along with the speculation of it being a missile.

As for the other...I do believe the US tyrants fessed up to that one...no?

I am not against you. cool2
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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
In the photos we see damage to the skin, characteristic for fragmentation rod warhead, high-explosive look different.

R-27 Axe, or R-73 which can be equipped with the MiG-29 and su-27

Источник: [link to translate.yandex.net]
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it was the CIA in ukraine that shot down their stolen plane, filled with dead bodies....probably from iraq, or wherever else the CIA operates their killing agenda...

soon the CIA operation will be ended....no more government money paying this lame operation.....you cia agents, find another job, the unemployment line awaits you///why? Bush Sr's criminal Central Intelligence Agency is about to be abolished, Sr is about to be arrested if he is still alive, some say he died aweek ago of a stroke/heart attack...but they don't want anyone to know....the criminal money trail is OVER
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How can a body falling from that height land on a paved road and there is almost no blood?

That is what the one man said and as you can see from the video...there is no blood around the body on the street.

And he said there was a horrible smell!

How does a body start to smell that bad in 2 min.?

Odd.

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07/19/2014 12:53 PM
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How can a body falling from that height land on a paved road and there is almost no blood?

That is what the one man said and as you can see from the video...there is no blood around the body on the street.

And he said there was a horrible smell!

How does a body start to smell that bad in 2 min.?

Odd.


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Decompression at that height and speed can cause blood to go to areas like legs and build up until it bursts...the blood was in mist, atomized. Sucked out.
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How can a body falling from that height land on a paved road and there is almost no blood?

That is what the one man said and as you can see from the video...there is no blood around the body on the street.

And he said there was a horrible smell!

How does a body start to smell that bad in 2 min.?

Odd.


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"How does a body start to smell that bad in 2 min.?"


Burst intestines.
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07/19/2014 12:55 PM
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+ airplane meal

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07/19/2014 12:56 PM
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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
This was on GLP last night, seems to be gone now...

[link to www.activistpost.com]
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Where is the timezone information?

This guy doesn't even mention that.

People need to realize that it is not the same time of day everywhere on the planet.

How hard would it be for this guy to change his youtube timezone settings for the other side of the planet just to get his screenshot so he can make bullshit conspiracy claims for youtube hits... this dudes name is familiar. I believe he has a record of falsifying shit like this... makse me wonder what youtube comments he was getting that made him turn them off...

I am willing to be the actual time is 7:10pm Ukrainian time... incident occurred at 4:20pm(ya, I know Hitler's B-day! figures ...fucking fascists!!).
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This guy has some pretty good video's with both sides weighing in on the matter. The video's show the Malaysian plane and the Ukraine cargo plane that was shot down with eyewitness accounts.

[link to news.vice.com (secure)]
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A view of what is believed to be a BUK surface-to-air missile battery being driven along a path on July 17 in Torez, Ukraine
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Launch site? The BUK missile system photographed in Torez hours before MH17 was downed
[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
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haha, what bullshit!

They're supposedly sneaking out the buk missile launcher in daylight and don't even throw a tarp over it.

.
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Supposedly?

Did you even bother watching the video or like most idiots on this thread you make stupid idiotic comments without even looking at the material posted?

Why the fuck would they throw a tarp over it? You seriously think that would fool anyone tracking equipment movements in this area?

Beside it's obvious they didn't because they didn't... they say a picture is worth a thousand words ...how many words do you think a video is worth?

...oh maybe you thought this was afterwards? Nope, they aren't sneaking it out ...they are moving it from a nearby town.
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So they have nothing to hide then? we can rule out the BUK theory.

They're not stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58213666


The BUK "theory" has basically been proven at this point.

Nothing more really to discuss about it... video/pictures, leaked communication intercepts, witnesses. Tweets bragging about capturing such equipment... Claims Russia has started to supply heavy artillery...

Even evidence of the radar system of the BUK being used before the plane went down.

You simply do not have much of the information or you are mentally impaired like so many others here.
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How can a body falling from that height land on a paved road and there is almost no blood?

That is what the one man said and as you can see from the video...there is no blood around the body on the street.

And he said there was a horrible smell!

How does a body start to smell that bad in 2 min.?

Odd.


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Decompression at that height and speed can cause blood to go to areas like legs and build up until it bursts...the blood was in mist, atomized. Sucked out.
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Thanks... I thought it was something like that.

Glad there is someone else here that knows a thing or two!

...the smell could have been singed flesh and hair from the missile impact? and/or evacuated bowel? People just assuming he is referring to a rotting smell. He actually say he can't describe it so probably a combination of smells.
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How can a body falling from that height land on a paved road and there is almost no blood?

That is what the one man said and as you can see from the video...there is no blood around the body on the street.

And he said there was a horrible smell!

How does a body start to smell that bad in 2 min.?

Odd.


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"How does a body start to smell that bad in 2 min.?"


Burst intestines.
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or that! :)
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+ airplane meal

burnit
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lmao
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haha, what bullshit!

They're supposedly sneaking out the buk missile launcher in daylight and don't even throw a tarp over it.

.
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Supposedly?

Did you even bother watching the video or like most idiots on this thread you make stupid idiotic comments without even looking at the material posted?

Why the fuck would they throw a tarp over it? You seriously think that would fool anyone tracking equipment movements in this area?

Beside it's obvious they didn't because they didn't... they say a picture is worth a thousand words ...how many words do you think a video is worth?

...oh maybe you thought this was afterwards? Nope, they aren't sneaking it out ...they are moving it from a nearby town.
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So they have nothing to hide then? we can rule out the BUK theory.

They're not stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58213666


The BUK "theory" has basically been proven at this point.

Nothing more really to discuss about it... video/pictures, leaked communication intercepts, witnesses. Tweets bragging about capturing such equipment... Claims Russia has started to supply heavy artillery...

Even evidence of the radar system of the BUK being used before the plane went down.

You simply do not have much of the information or you are mentally impaired like so many others here.
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Actually, nothing has been proven at this point. Nice try.
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OSCE @OSCE
LISTEN: LATEST UPDATE from the #MH17 crash site from .@osce_smm spox Michael Bociurkiw via .@uacrisis

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ALL THESE STORIES PROVE WHAT DIDN"T HAPPEN… THIS WAS AIR TO AIR.
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For you maybe.
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Or a bomb on board the aircraft after all it is a Boeing 777 and the same airline as the missing MH370 coincidence no.

Are all the people on board who they say they are?
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yep, that's a possibility I thought too.

the Ukrainian fighters may of been escorting
it to the site as a false flag against the
Russians.
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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
This guy has some pretty good video's with both sides weighing in on the matter. The video's show the Malaysian plane and the Ukraine cargo plane that was shot down with eyewitness accounts.

[link to news.vice.com (secure)]
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Excellent coverage with accounts of the situation from civilians that live there... I particularly like the one at 3:14

...and all this "looting" and "contamination" of the scene ...and the moving of bodies that the media is being extremely critical of in their reports ...is the local people simply trying to respect the dead... instead of leaving them to rot.
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Supposedly?

Did you even bother watching the video or like most idiots on this thread you make stupid idiotic comments without even looking at the material posted?

Why the fuck would they throw a tarp over it? You seriously think that would fool anyone tracking equipment movements in this area?

Beside it's obvious they didn't because they didn't... they say a picture is worth a thousand words ...how many words do you think a video is worth?

...oh maybe you thought this was afterwards? Nope, they aren't sneaking it out ...they are moving it from a nearby town.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9668958


So they have nothing to hide then? we can rule out the BUK theory.

They're not stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58213666


The BUK "theory" has basically been proven at this point.

Nothing more really to discuss about it... video/pictures, leaked communication intercepts, witnesses. Tweets bragging about capturing such equipment... Claims Russia has started to supply heavy artillery...

Even evidence of the radar system of the BUK being used before the plane went down.

You simply do not have much of the information or you are mentally impaired like so many others here.
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Actually, nothing has been proven at this point. Nice try.
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Hence the word "basically".

Evolution hasn't been proven either...
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" . . . Dashcam footage
[link to www.youtube.com]




peace
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The dutch are loyal to the Empire.

Putin has morals which your destructive leaders lack
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Are you insane....or even Dutch..my granpa must be rolling in his grave right now, in Groesbeek.
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He must be rolling in his grave, probably because of the NAZI resurrection in the Empire
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Take a step back and watch carefully. RIP to all Dutch victims.

EU's anti-Americanism shows what a great job leftists have done there.

Enjoy.
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No sweety Canadian, not 'leftists' but that same imperialistic 'americanism', that influented the world, making it sick.
Ordinary American people are great and not different than any other people anywhere in world, but that blood and oil thursty politic is simply unacceptable and disgusting!

Have a nice day under canadian sun hf
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haha, what bullshit!

They're supposedly sneaking out the buk missile launcher in daylight and don't even throw a tarp over it.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58213666


Supposedly?

Did you even bother watching the video or like most idiots on this thread you make stupid idiotic comments without even looking at the material posted?

Why the fuck would they throw a tarp over it? You seriously think that would fool anyone tracking equipment movements in this area?

Beside it's obvious they didn't because they didn't... they say a picture is worth a thousand words ...how many words do you think a video is worth?

...oh maybe you thought this was afterwards? Nope, they aren't sneaking it out ...they are moving it from a nearby town.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9668958


So they have nothing to hide then? we can rule out the BUK theory.

They're not stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58213666


The BUK "theory" has basically been proven at this point.

Nothing more really to discuss about it... video/pictures, leaked communication intercepts, witnesses. Tweets bragging about capturing such equipment... Claims Russia has started to supply heavy artillery...

Even evidence of the radar system of the BUK being used before the plane went down.

You simply do not have much of the information or you are mentally impaired like so many others here.
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the stench of shilling operatives on this thread
is overwelming. I bet you saw both planes hit
the WTC towers too. Are you still wearing that same
Hard Rock Cafe shirt ???


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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
So in this article:

[link to www.smh.com.au]

It makes a specific reference to:

"“There is no doubt that terrorists knew that they launched a missile against a plane that was higher then 10,000m,” he said."

What's so special about 10,000 meters? Is that the cutoff point between civilian and military cruise altitudes?
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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
So in this article:

[link to www.smh.com.au]

It makes a specific reference to:

"“There is no doubt that terrorists knew that they launched a missile against a plane that was higher then 10,000m,” he said."

What's so special about 10,000 meters? Is that the cutoff point between civilian and military cruise altitudes?
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Pravy Sector Terrorists?
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Ok, this is starting to irritate me...

So many people are quoting the Daily Mail, one of the most screwed up newspapers in the UK, one known for doing NO verifying of their stories whatsoever, and one which appears to be drawing some of their stories from this very site. Their sole purpose seems to be to incite hatred of whatever they can as quickly as possible

They have no integrity and will spout any BS they come across as long as it will draw traffic to their site and make them money, they are as inflammatory as the Ukrainian Govt.

PLEASE stop using the Daily Fail as if it provides proof of something (other than proof that you read such an offensive pile of BS)

What I find interesting is that up until today I couldn't access this site without a VPN, now the Daily Fail runs their "conspiracy theory" story and all of a sudden I can access the site normally. What gives?
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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
So in this article:

[link to www.smh.com.au]

It makes a specific reference to:

"“There is no doubt that terrorists knew that they launched a missile against a plane that was higher then 10,000m,” he said."

What's so special about 10,000 meters? Is that the cutoff point between civilian and military cruise altitudes?
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range limit of Manpads
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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
skip to 2:20.. this is pretty accurate as to how it works.

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Ok, this is starting to irritate me...

So many people are quoting the Daily Mail, one of the most screwed up newspapers in the UK, one known for doing NO verifying of their stories whatsoever, and one which appears to be drawing some of their stories from this very site. Their sole purpose seems to be to incite hatred of whatever they can as quickly as possible

They have no integrity and will spout any BS they come across as long as it will draw traffic to their site and make them money, they are as inflammatory as the Ukrainian Govt.

PLEASE stop using the Daily Fail as if it provides proof of something (other than proof that you read such an offensive pile of BS)

What I find interesting is that up until today I couldn't access this site without a VPN, now the Daily Fail runs their "conspiracy theory" story and all of a sudden I can access the site normally. What gives?
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Most accurate and comprehensive collection of information I have come across so far regarding this incident ...even if some of their details and facts are wrong. They also are providing different angles to what happened instead of just reporting one.
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The doomed aircraft had been tracked by a surface-to-air missile system right before it went down, a senior US official told CNN.
[link to nypost.com]


Ukrainian Buk battery radar was operational when Malaysian plane downed - Moscow

[link to rt.com]
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Re: Air to air fragmentation missile got the plane
Ok, this is starting to irritate me...

So many people are quoting the Daily Mail, one of the most screwed up newspapers in the UK, one known for doing NO verifying of their stories whatsoever, and one which appears to be drawing some of their stories from this very site. Their sole purpose seems to be to incite hatred of whatever they can as quickly as possible

They have no integrity and will spout any BS they come across as long as it will draw traffic to their site and make them money, they are as inflammatory as the Ukrainian Govt.

PLEASE stop using the Daily Fail as if it provides proof of something (other than proof that you read such an offensive pile of BS)

What I find interesting is that up until today I couldn't access this site without a VPN, now the Daily Fail runs their "conspiracy theory" story and all of a sudden I can access the site normally. What gives?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60391671


Most accurate and comprehensive collection of information I have come across so far regarding this incident ...even if some of their details and facts are wrong. They also are providing different angles to what happened instead of just reporting one.
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Why? because they are pulling a bunch of theories from a conspiracy site and printing them because they want to make free money by exploiting a bunch of idiots (which, funnily enough, is what they do every... single... day...)

What you have written doesn't even make sense, how can something be "accurate and comprehensive" even if "some of their details and facts are wrong"?





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