Remember the corrupted poor are just as evil as the corrupted rich.

The current problem is corrupted rich using the poor to corrupt the entire system. The poor whi realize it but "get mine" anyways are not necessarily evil, but are practicing pretty hard.

yes. they're called psychopathic criminals.

You're making a lot of assumptions about evil and it's relationship to money that don't seem to be rather narrow. A gun is not a good anology for money - a gun if far too limited in it's scope, it's simply an inanimate material object, money, or Mammon, is a far more complex creature, about which most of us know very little. It's certainly not simply an innanimate material object and it has profound and as of yet not even remotely explored effects, largely negative, on those who have vast amounts. It, money, seems to have a powerful amplyfying effect both qualitatively and quanitatively on evil. And yes, make a poor man rich, and you're likely back to square one, that's obvious - the why is not so obvious.

"I'll say it again--it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!" Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25

"Go to now, you rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come on you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver is corroded; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. You have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the laborers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, cries: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. You have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; you have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and killed the just; and he does not resist you." James 5:1-6


Food for thought.

Trying to compare a Rockefeller evil (and it's far reaching scope) to a trailer park pot smoker, makes you look like a real idiot, OP.

make a corrupt poor person rich and he will piss away his life on fast cars women drugs and alcohol... the born rich have all that so they tend to lean toward world domination population control centralised power and wealth assurance at any cost ..


your wrong

everybody is evil. Man is born that way.

my wife has got a mean streak.

Nah it's a good analogy. You're twisting and stretching it unnecessarily. People are ignoring the message or maybe they just can't see it. They read one thing and see another.

Hopefully someone understood my words. The above poster has not. He disagrees with me by arguing against a point that I did not make. If I see something else I can add, I will. Otherwise I'm just being obnoxious by repeating myself for those ignoring my words.

Good luck.

Well we better make sure you never become rich...doing you a favor then.

No way, the actions are not on par. The rich have significantly more power in their individual actions.

Not at all. So you're saying all that the "Rockefeller" does, is a solo mission...he/she single handedly does all that which you think makes him/her evil or corrupted? That's where the line is drawn that an action of a corrupted poor person is the same as the action of a corrupted rich person.

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Ive never been given a job by the poor. Never given a loan by the poor. I dont know what the rich have taken from me other than taxes, that they themselves pay as well. My bank has never robbed me.

I don't know...the "robbed" thing is still up for grabs.

Look at what rates they give you and then look at their loan rates. I have been with Navy Federal Credit Union for a few years now and I'll never go back to the bank.

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Corrupted by elite filling their heads with ideas of Utopia, only to fill their bellies with a reality of tyranny...

There is no utopia, only humanity doing what it does best, fucking over their fellow human. This is why Socialism and Communism and variations thereof are all doomed to failure from the beginning.

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i just knew you were some kind of militardy masondustrial mental complex shithead

the navy wants a new fleet of nuke subs even though the cold war is long dead

wonder how many years of foodstamps that evil shit would buy

Have you ever been genuinely poor, OP? If you are rich you are only seeing one side.

Poor get corrupt because they are desperate. Rich get corrupt because they are greedy. Big difference.

Money helps. Who listens to a poor person? Not many

the eye of the needle.
The needle was a hole in the city wall.

CIA is watching you!

With proper checks and balances and not allowing for exceptions (with just a simple "exceptions list" not going 2+deep) its possible.

Both are actions or choices of the individual. The circumstances very but the end result is the same.

There are a ton more leeching bastards and they contribute nothing, unlike the rich. The poor leeches are just useless locusts.

But they have far far less power. I don't know of any poor men who outsourced all our jobs, stole all the money through a banking system they set up, formed oil cartels, made drugs illegal to create a black market, or started ANY wars.

To those to whom much is given, much is expected. They wield great power and to often just use it gain more for themselves. The poor are just trying to survive.

No comparison.

Keep it up and someone might throw you a dime.

The poor soldiers who bleed out on the battlefield are just as good as the rich ones who order the poor to their death, huh?

Seems to me that the rich soldiers would risk the same as the poor ones do if being rich or poor was not an equitable way to quantify the relative value of a soldier's life.

in the poor_evil vs rich_evil debate:

the rich_evil has no ability to coerce the poor.

The poor_evil who took the bribe is even more despicable than the rich_evil
and that's why we are in this shit

read this:

By CHARLEY REESE

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don’t have the constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don’t write the tax code. The Congress does.

You and I don’t set fiscal policy. The Congress does. You and I don’t control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices — 545 human beings out of 238 million — are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Bank because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

I exclude all of the special interest and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it.

No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

Don’t you see how the con game is played on the people by the politicians?

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of Tip O’Neill, who stood up and criticized Ronald Reagan for creating deficits.

The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept. it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating appropriations and taxes. O’Neill is speaker of the House. He is the leader of the majority party. He and his fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto.

Just 545 Americans have fouled up this great nation.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 235 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted - by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility.

I can’t think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those people.

When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise complete power over the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

If the Marines are in Lebanon, it’s because they want them in Lebanon.

There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take it.

Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical force like “the economy,” “inflation” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people and they alone are responsible. They and they alone have the power. they and they alone should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided they have the gumption to manage their own employees.

Of course. It seems in Colombia a murder will cost you not more than 15 US$.

Each of theirs own and never judge any book by it cover. If you were not dense then you'll sense the burden for what they had done wrongly in previous lifetime, and for that they must repay the karma roundabout.

Many who are carrying burden was rich in theirs previous lifetime. Perhaps that give an idea and a little nudges from those who knows how the spirit work.