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Man films Quran shooting and its delivery to local mosque. Is it free speech? | |
| Sam Adams User ID: 98428  United States07/11/2006 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it, this is the same as burning a flag. The guy is sending a warning to those who would do his country harm. Islam and freedom can not co-exist; at least to the fanatical Islam that is attacking our country and countries around the world. A mosque is nothing more than a glorified fortress and the political elitists in this country fail to notice the enemy among us. In fact, they would rather investigate those who would confront this evil than to confront the evil its self.    FBI looking at Web site showing shooting of Quran CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. The F-B-I will look into an online video that shows two men shooting a Quran with a military rifle and then leaving the bullet-riddled holy book at a Chattanooga mosque. F-B-I agent Tim Burke said the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations asked the Justice Department to investigate the incident. He said no one from the Chattanooga Muslim community had complained. Justice Department spokesman Eric Holland said the request would be reviewed carefully. Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Islamic group, said the video may have been recorded in Chattanooga a year ago. The video titled "kill the koran" was posted on MySpace-dot-com last month. It could still be seen on the Web site yesterday. A man on the Web site identifies himself as "mully88" and claims to live in Chattanooga. The author's profile lists as heroes (quote) "anybody that has killed a muslim or at least tried to kill a muslim." The site also contains slurs against Hispanics and blacks. The video shows the man purchasing a Quran at a bookstore, going to a wooded area and shooting the book, then throwing it on the ground outside the door of the Chattanooga Islamic center. Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. [link to www.wreg.com] |
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| Sam Adams User ID: 98418 United States07/11/2006 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....The way I see it, this is the same as burning a flag. Quoting: FatGoldFishGuyHmmm, would you be say that if someone posted a video of a Bible being shot then thrown at the entrance to a church? I think not Yes I would if those people were attacking my country. If they are trying to take away my freedom and impose a their beliefs on me and my country men. You need to look at the whole picture, not try and take it out of context. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 115481  Canada07/11/2006 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| FatGoldFishGuy User ID: 105549 United States07/11/2006 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11475 United States07/11/2006 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe, just like most people who would burn a cross in front of a home of a black person, that this person is a coward who could not follow through with this threat. |
| 4Q User ID: 112785 United States07/11/2006 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For crying out loud - that's not free speech, that is a threat. Just like going in front of a black person's house and burning a cross. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475I believe, just like most people who would burn a cross in front of a home of a black person, that this person is a coward who could not follow through with this threat. Shooting your own belongings (a book) on your own property, is not the same thing as trespassing and burning a cross... THIS SPACE FOR RENT |
| Big Daddy D User ID: 28003 United States07/11/2006 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Kay User ID: 72054 United States07/11/2006 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....The way I see it, this is the same as burning a flag. Quoting: FatGoldFishGuyHmmm, would you be say that if someone posted a video of a Bible being shot then thrown at the entrance to a church? I think not Certainly we would. It is free speech. |
| Merkaba User ID: 109760  Japan07/11/2006 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....The way I see it, this is the same as burning a flag. Quoting: Sam Adams 98418Hmmm, would you be say that if someone posted a video of a Bible being shot then thrown at the entrance to a church? I think not Yes I would if those people were attacking my country. If they are trying to take away my freedom and impose a their beliefs on me and my country men. You need to look at the whole picture, not try and take it out of context. Wake the fuck up moron, your country has been using scapegoats to inflame "patriotic" imbeciles with infantile intelligence. It's called imperialism, fascism, deception, and false flag operations. "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." -- J. Edgar Hoover |
| Kay User ID: 72054 United States07/11/2006 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....The way I see it, this is the same as burning a flag. Quoting: MerkabaHmmm, would you be say that if someone posted a video of a Bible being shot then thrown at the entrance to a church? I think not Yes I would if those people were attacking my country. If they are trying to take away my freedom and impose a their beliefs on me and my country men. You need to look at the whole picture, not try and take it out of context. Wake the fuck up moron, your country has been using scapegoats to inflame "patriotic" imbeciles with infantile intelligence. It's called imperialism, fascism, deception, and false flag operations. You are actually denying the fact that there is Islamic terrorism in the world? I think if you really think about it you will realize that those globalists who want to manipulate events do not have this much power. They can encourage terrorist events that benefit them, do their best to put these evil acts into action, but at the bottom line level, these people agree to carry out these acts for their own reasons. They have their own expansionist agenda. They have free will and they choose to do this violence. |
| salimandr User ID: 115555 United States07/11/2006 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "They can encourage terrorist events that benefit them, do their best to put these evil acts into action, but at the bottom line level, these people agree to carry out these acts for their own reasons. They have their own expansionist agenda. They have free will and they choose to do this violence." you sure do understand bush and company, don't you!? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21 United States07/11/2006 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian, and do NOT think it should be against the law for someone to videotape himself shooting a bible,and then throwing it on the steps of a church. I might think he's evil, or an idiot, but he's not harming anyone in the above instance, and not even threatening to harm anyone. A perceived threat is different than a real threat. Suppose you are a male, walking in a shopping mall, and you are walking towards a woman who is digging through her purse, not paying attention. Just as you happen to get near her, she looks up at you, and screams. A nearby security guard grabs you from behind as the woman shrieks, "that man was trying to steal my purse". Despite being an INNOCENT VICTIM of an unstable ninny of a woman, there is a real possibility you could be arrested, simply because the woman overreacted, and "perceived you as a danger". If you are LUCKY, you will calmly explain what really happened, and the police may let you go for lack of clear "intent".However, innocent though you may be, they will probably WARN you not to return to that shopping mall. It is partly because of scenarios like this, that such a preponderance of jail inmates are males. IF the sexes were reversed in the above scenario, and the male made the complaint, the security guard would laugh, and say,"stop being such a wimp". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72054 United States07/11/2006 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kay, Kay, Kay. Quoting: salimandr 115555"They can encourage terrorist events that benefit them, do their best to put these evil acts into action, but at the bottom line level, these people agree to carry out these acts for their own reasons. They have their own expansionist agenda. They have free will and they choose to do this violence." you sure do understand bush and company, don't you!? Salimandr, have we ever agreed on anything ever???  I understand well enough. But over many years of researching the NWO, the international bankers, the European royalty, I have noticed that they use situations, institutions, they manipulate and contrive, but they don't have complete control. Because Bush and Co are bad doesn't make terrorist organizations good. They still have their own agenda. That they are USED by them is without doubt but it is their choice. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11475 United States07/12/2006 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For crying out loud - that's not free speech, that is a threat. Just like going in front of a black person's house and burning a cross. I believe, just like most people who would burn a cross in front of a home of a black person, that this person is a coward who could not follow through with this threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475 Shooting your own belongings (a book) on your own property, is not the same thing as trespassing and burning a cross... No - but taking that book afterwards and dumping at on someone elses property (trespassing) and then posting the video along with the comments that instead of the book it should be the users of that same property that should be shot is a threat. |
