I have an argument against evolution, Carnivorous Plants. Are there any counter-arguments to my claim?

If you choose to continue to ignore reality and the facts presented to you, and instead rely on your own imagination and ludicrous claims, you have set this thread up from the beginning with a closed mind and heart.

Trust me when I say you need to open both a bit. The Bible teaches us to question everything, which you are doing well; however, you also need to learn to distinguish fact from fiction. You and I share the same ability to extend our faith in terms of the things presented to us in the Bible, but there is a difference between believing that Jesus died and rose again (which would simply, from a scientific point of view, be an outlier in the data of people who didn't rise from the dead) and believing that all of the facts and evidence presented to you about the chemical and biological forces of nature are lies.

Even if the 'theory' of evolution is wrong, you have a very tenuous grasp on the concept at best.

I only agree because he/she ignores most of the posts (and all but one of mine) and only responds to what they've nitpicked out.

They also demonstrate a very, very tenuous grasp on what the theory of evolution actually claims...


Op, if you truly believe your claims about carnivorous plants are correct then you have to respond to all of the facts presented against your claims. Carnivorous plants are a perfect example of how evolution works, yet somehow you think the opposite. I'm calling you out on your shit: respond to the facts presented to you over the course of this thread or go back to school and learn what 'evolution' actually means instead of what your pastor told you it means.

I agree with you except when you start talking about god. I am Christian too but not at all religious because I understand the bible is a story that was written to fulfill by the same people that control the world today. It is blueprint not prophecy.

This is a simulation. There is a higher power that created us but its not some imaginary god from the bible that we like to believe.

The traps on carnivorous plants are extremely advanced. Carnivorous plants could not have survived for millions of years to evolve these traps. They cant survive in nutrient rich soil , only waterlogged bogs.

This is a perfect example of a person giving almost zero information about science or our discussion on science and biology, and making claims that they aren't even supporting. You claim that carnivorous plants are a perfect example of evolution. Why are they a perfect example of evolution? You never say. You also have to resort to name calling and jumping the bandwagon to team up against me. For the record ive responded to almost all the claims, but very few have responded to any of my claims. So keep on resorting to slinging insults when you cant even back up your claim with evidence or reasoning, you're only embarrasing yourself.

I don't mean to sound rude but god I was feeling down in the dumps but creationists always find a way to cheer me up with their hilarious ignorant posts about evolution! Thank you! Laughter really is the best medicine.

Who cares who wins. I bet both theories are wrong but if it makes you feel safe; YOU WIN!

celebrate appropriately.

I have no respect for anyone who chooses to believe in some magical sky wizard rather than facts.

You deserve to be put in a mental asylum because only mad people like you OP would continue to believe in this creationist rubbish when it has been proven that evolution is a known fact.

When you die you will cease to exist. Just because you're scared shitless that about dying means you are trying your best to con yourself that god exists. He/she/it doesn't. get over it and just enjoy your life, such as it is.

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Disregard I posted wrong link.
I agree with you OP.
The 'facts' that evolutionists talk about simply do not exist.

The answer is, they do, they just get different nutrients from soil, there are many plants that will die in perfect soil conditions, those plants thrive on poor soil and usually actually create a better condition in soil for other plants.

A carnivorous plants doesnt eat a large amount of insects a day to sustain themselves, they can last a long time without doing that so, even through they do 'eat' to get nutrients, even in very poor conditions they probably would last a long time too.

Then there is the fact that we messed with the whole ecosystem by artificial planting, cutting trees down etc etc. So where the soil is now supercrappy, in the time before these plants evolved they may not have needed to eat insects.

that they cant survive in nutrient rich soil now doesnt mean they never could.
Pretty sure Jesus couldnt ride a bicicle, or any other person a long long time ago, but hey guess what, a lot of us can now!