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ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results

 
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ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
I have a new mission.

Orgonite pisses me off. People go around seeling resin pucks filled with BB's and pennies... claiming they convert cell phone radiation into normal background radiation.

This should be measurable.

A simple EM meter would measure the drop in EM fields around an orgonite puck. I plan on doing this.

Funny thing is... nobody sells an "orgonite detector". One guy claims he built one. I don't see the meter that shows the orgone level on his invention... but you can find his invention on Google.
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For instance, one site sells...

*Orgone Energy Accumulators,

*Orgone Energy Chargers

*Portable Orgone Accumulator

*Orgone Energy Blankets

NEW!!Orgone SportsWrap

*Orgone Energy Vest

*Orgone Belt and Mitts

*Orgone Mini-Shooter

*Orgone Condom


but no Orgone detector. They do sell EM meters though. Seems like a demo would work wonders if this shit actually works. Show me a meter with the needle going down as the puck gets closer.
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This shit is the snake-oilest shit in the world. I plan on making it history.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
I've been saying for years that orgonite hucksters need to demonstrate the alleged EMF blocking or quit slinging B.S.

If you press the matter, my prediction is they will flip-flop and decide it actually just "harmonizes" the EMF.

BTW welz did NOT invent orgonite, google "Franz Bardon" +"fluid condensor" (or maybe "condenser"). It's ac occult item for accumulating "etheric fluids". Welz merely added resin to make it in a solid form. It doesn't "generate" squat. With an actual Reich accumulator you can see the glowing blue "bions". No "chembuster" or other orgonite garbage has ever demonstrated those being emitted.

And it's not "chi sickness from excess chi" that you get from keeping those in your room, it's simple poisoning from the fumes the resin gives off.

Orgonite doesn't generate anything but fumes and apparently schizophrenia.

Who are you anyway OP, do you have a website or yahoo list or anything? I'm not used to seeing anyone else share my viewpoint on this.
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07/11/2006 04:01 PM
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
I have a new mission.

Orgonite pisses me off. People go around seeling resin pucks filled with BB's and pennies... claiming they convert cell phone radiation into normal background radiation.

This should be measurable.

A simple EM meter would measure the drop in EM fields around an orgonite puck. I plan on doing this.

Funny thing is... nobody sells an "orgonite detector". One guy claims he built one. I don't see the meter that shows the orgone level on his invention... but you can find his invention on Google.
 Quoting: Quayletard 74215

GO BACK TO MR REICH

the inforamtion is there..it is well hidden, but you will find it

[link to 130.111.64.3]

especially these
[link to 130.111.64.3]

this stuff works...takes a looooooooooong time to do the experimenting and measurements
GOOD LUCK
Rebecca
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07/11/2006 05:04 PM
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Sorry, but it works for me.
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what precisely does it "work" for you on, Rebecca?
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07/11/2006 05:22 PM
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
Anti-orgonite propaganda.. Goofy Thum
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
reich measured the presence of orgone with his meter. so foo on you.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
Unless you create a suit made of resin hockey pucks, I don't see how it can help against a line-of-sight radiant. I guess the magic puck bends light and absorbes it like a singularity in the invisible way.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
I had to google orgonite to even find out what you were talking about. I found this at orgonite.info.

"This is a purely informational site about orgonite, a simple compound anyone can create in their backyard with fairly inexpensive, widely-available materials which balances ambient energy by turning the negative energy into positive energy, with many easily-confirmed effects. Orgonite does this continuously, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, without electricity."

You actually need to prove to yourself that this doesn't work? Just read the claim and get out the tin-foil hat. Balances ambient energy by turning the negative energy into positive energy? What the hell does that mean? How do you define 'negative' or 'positive' energy? Does a rock give off 'positive' energy while sand gives 'negative' energy?

More pseudo-science at it's finest.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
The glossary of terms is a riot:

Glossary of Popular Terms
ChemBuster ("CB"): Don Croft's updated version of Reich's original cloudbuster design which utilizes orgonite to safely transmute collected DOR into POR, and could be placed into continuous 24/7 operation to balance the energy between earth and sky. The CB is so-named due to its ability to disperse chemtrails.

Chemtrails: Persistent lines of chemical-infused aerosol spray dispersals from typically unmarked planes which are now seen in the sky all over the world. Unlike normal jet contrails formed from water vapor, chemtrails spread to form a thick blanket of cloud cover, held together by polymer fibers until they reach the ground, contaminating crops, water supplies and humans with radioactive soft metals and dessicated red blood cells which contain active human pathogens. Please see our links section for details.

Cloudbuster: Wilhelm Reich's invention which could, with careful and methodical use, direct the orgone in the atmosphere to bring rain to and end drought in a region.

DOR: Wilhelm Reich's word for negatively-charged, harmful orgone energy. (e.g., Deadly ORgone)

Double-Terminated Quartz Crystals ("DT's", "Herks"): An uncommon variation of quartz crystals which are terminated (pointed) on either end rather than just one. "Herkimer diamonds" are the most common form of DT quartz, found only in the glacier-carved quarries in Herkimer, New York. Etheric energy is emitted by the point of a crystal, so DT's are used in orgonite when energy emission in two opposite directions is desired. See our links section for DT resources.

Etheric Energy: The subtle, universal energy of life that exists everywhere and in all things. It has many names (orgone, chi, qi, torsion fields, zero-point energy, etc.) from many traditions and areas of research which recognize the predictable behavior and rule systems for classifying, collecting and using etheric energy for various purposes such as healing and self-defense. Contrary to popular belief, the existence of etheric energy was not only not disproven, but has been proven repeatedly by a great many researchers throughout the last century.

Gifting: The act of throwing or burying a piece of orgonite near a source of DOR (such as a cellphone tower), or the act of giving a piece of orgonite to another person who may benefit from orgonite's positive effects.

OR/POR Wilhelm Reich's word for positively-charged, life-beneficial orgone energy. (e.g, ORgone / Positive ORgone)

Orgone: Wilhelm Reich's word for etheric energy.

Orgone Accumulator/"ORAC": Wilhelm Reich's famous boxes constructed of alternating layers of fiberglass and steel wool which attracts and collects orgone energy of both the OR/POR and DOR varieties. "ORAC" is Reich's abbreviated term for his orgone accumulators.

TowerBuster (TB): The most common form of orgonite as well as the simplest to make, formed from the combination of metal shavings, catalyzed fiberlgass resin, and a quartz crystal chip in a muffin tin mold. TB's are typically thrown or buried within 1/4 mile of cellphone towers to mitigate the harmful effects of non-ionizing microwave radiation (and by extension DOR) on the surrounding community.

Anyone who falls for this deserves to be out the $$$. Instead of buying Orgonite quackery, just send the government the money. If you have the cash to spend on this type of foolishness you obviously don't need the money anyway.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
You know it's bullshit when they make up an emotionally-charged expression to describe a mundane event.

Gifting is something you do under a christmas tree. In contrast, placing hockey pucks is mundane.
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07/11/2006 06:36 PM
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
How can one measure the effectiveness of orgone devices?
Dowsing.Use the pendulum.For confirmation.
Being an orgone warrior for years,and having gifted many locations,transmuting DOR into POR[from deadly to positive orgone]One doesn't need other 'measureable results'.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
I got mine from Drunvalo Melchizidek.

It works great. You can see the chemtrails disperse when you aim the device at it!!
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
You know it's bullshit when they make up an emotionally-charged expression to describe a mundane event.

Gifting is something you do under a christmas tree. In contrast, placing hockey pucks is mundane.
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The idea is that your customer has to keep buying more of them to throw away like that. I see retirees spending food money on this crap to get their pat on the back from the "orgone community".

BTW, "orgonite" is not related to Reich's work in any way.
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"Dowsing.Use the pendulum.For confirmation.
Being an orgone warrior for years,and having gifted many locations,transmuting DOR into POR[from deadly to positive orgone]One doesn't need other 'measureable results'."

I prefer to wave a rubber chicken over the affected area.
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"It works great. You can see the chemtrails disperse when you aim the device at it!!"

I'd like to see this on video.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
Welcome back whoregoneite,

Seems like you're the same OP that crash landed in a previous scum thread attacking Don Croft.

Who are you representing pal? Who are you shilling for to be so over the top to try and convince people that orgone doesn't exist.

What you don't realize is that your extreme prejudice against this raises warning alarms that you have an agenda and it always will backfire on you because people are smart enough to know when someone goes to extreme lengths to trash something, it always means it's the real deal.

You are giving orgone credibility, not less. People who never knew a thing about the subject are now exploring it.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
no orgone comes out of 'orgonite'. Reich could demonstrate the glowing corpuscles of orgone from his accumulators, you chemtards cannot.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
Sherry Shriner is a purveyor of these devices,dont knock it till you try it. Yah bless
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
Sherry Shriner is a purveyor of these devices,dont knock it till you try it. Yah bless
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Yes what I said give it a whirl chaps and dudes
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
I have a new mission.

Orgonite pisses me off. People go around seeling resin pucks filled with BB's and pennies... claiming they convert cell phone radiation into normal background radiation.

This should be measurable.

A simple EM meter would measure the drop in EM fields around an orgonite puck. I plan on doing this.

Funny thing is... nobody sells an "orgonite detector". One guy claims he built one. I don't see the meter that shows the orgone level on his invention... but you can find his invention on Google.
 Quoting: Quayletard 74215



You, sir or madam, are an insensitive (to frequencies) moron. If you were sufficiently evolved, rather than being an entry level troglodyte, you would be able to see and feel exactly what benefits orgonite accomplishes. Better luck next life.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
bump for rational thought hf
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"It works great. You can see the chemtrails disperse when you aim the device at it!!"

I'd like to see this on video.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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[link to www.forteantimes.com]


Anyone can try this and you can see for yourself.Plants don't lie.In Africa it's called Mboli,or fertilizer,and it also cleans water and attracts fish.No one has reported ANY negative consequences,lasts forever,cheap to make or buy and even improves the taste of fruit and vegetables. How? Who Cares?
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
Bumping this for anyone else that needs verifiable results from orgonite.
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Re: ORGONITE: the lack of measurable results
Go to my orgonite testimony thread. Someone there posted a link with some form of reader or scanner that can supposedly detect the orgone energy. However, I haven't bought it and can't verify its authenticity. But I do know that orgonite does work. It's weird though. You ask me to explain it, its in my thread. It's similar to Reich's work in some aspects.

Everyone I've showed it to obviously is going to disbelieve it at first. Because it sounds wacko. Totally bonkers. But it does get rid of interdimensional beings, what some would call evil spirits, demons, djinn, shadow people, or even shapeshifters and aliens. I've built a chembuster and I know first hand that it WORKS.

First day I had it up within 30 minutes a black helicopter circled my house, and this happened 3 days in a row, at night. But there was no helicopter activity any days BEFORE I put it out in the yard! The chemtrails had neat little holes in them from the pipes and they (the chemtrails) looked so messed up, it was laughable! And they actually tried spraying HIGHER but it didn't work. Orgonite chembusters destroy the nwo chemtrail program and it burns/pisses off/repels malevolent spirit beings or what could be called troublesome astral realm entities.

Haha and I only made orgonite to DISPROVE it. cool2
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