40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States... | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60557385 United States 07/21/2014 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the US did not go far enough. We should have taken all of central America down to Panama and genocided the natives. Then the border of the USA could have been the tiny Panama canal instead of miles of Mexican border. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 581915 United States 07/21/2014 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140 [link to www.debate.org] This is the only really effective thing the US has to do to pay its karmic debt with Mexico. Otherwise Mexicans will keep jumping the border and occupying the land that is rightfully theirs. Go home gringos! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17044892 United States 07/21/2014 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So Texas, and all the lands that were Texas at the time....Mexico has zero claim to. During the Mexican War the only matter in dispute were the borders. Mexico claimed that Texas border was at the Nueces River. The United States claimed the Texas border was at the Rio Grande. The only territory in question then is the Mexican Cession and the Gadsden Purchase. Since the Gadsden Purchase was a purchase and money changed hands and that check was cashed....Mexico has no claim whatsoever to that territory. None. That leaves only the territory of the Mexican Cession. This territory was ceded to the US through treaty which was ratified through a Mexican legislative vote of 51 to 34 and a Senate vote of 33 to 4, on 19 May 1848. All but 1000 Mexican citizens of the territory chose to take US citizenship instead of retain Mexican citizenship. Since that time the Mexican government has engaged with the United States on adjustments of the border and small territorial exchanges...further highlighting their acceptance of the border over a long period of time and through multiple governments. The Mexican-American War was not a just war. But Mexico accepted the outcome, ratified the treaty, and recognized it for over 150 years now and that has really extinguished any real claims. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60557385 United States 07/21/2014 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140 [link to www.debate.org] This is the only really effective thing the US has to do to pay its karmic debt with Mexico. Otherwise Mexicans will keep jumping the border and occupying the land that is rightfully theirs. Go home gringos! Look, man. You Mexicans exist today because we were nice enough not to have killed you all off. We still could if you want to push us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 581915 United States 07/21/2014 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is a NARCO-STATE...drugs killing, torture and corruption. That all they know how to do. they'd just have another barrio that they created if they were allowed to keep they're last lands Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60431049 You obviously have never gone to Mexico. You are all fucked up in the head. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58046520 United States 07/21/2014 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With the defeat of its army and the fall of the capital, Mexico entered into negotiations to end the war. The treaty called for the United States to pay $15 million to Mexico and pay off the claims of American citizens against Mexico up to $3.25 million. It gave the United States the Rio Grande boundary for Texas, and gave the U.S. ownership of California, and a large area comprising New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado. Mexicans in those annexed areas had the choice of relocating to within Mexico's new boundaries or of receiving American citizenship with full civil rights. Over 90% chose the latter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1203508 Germany 07/21/2014 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So.. If China and Russia, or even the whole BRICS block would conquer the US and steal land from you, then you would be totally cool with that? Anyways.. Not sure why the US should give the land back.. It won't matter anyway.. The US border is a joke, they can just come into the country and live where they want and once the NAU is reality then it won't really matter anymore anyway... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 37211140 Belgium 07/21/2014 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52963184 United States 07/21/2014 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140 [link to www.debate.org] 40% of who? Mexicans? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43175660 Canada 07/21/2014 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29184782 United States 07/21/2014 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh great. Now someone from Belgium thinks they know what they are talking about. Mexico attacked the US. Mexico lost. The US gave land back to them including giving them back Mexico City. Don't you have an EU dictator you can take on? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12702402 United Kingdom 07/21/2014 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After the Mexican-American War of 1848 in which the US kicked mexican ass...the US then also PAID MEXICO FOR THAT SAME LAND! Is mexico going to pay the US back revalued for inflation & property upgrades? Mexico has tons of undeveloped land...they want DEVELOPED land with pre-existing INFRASTRUCTURE. In other words...we have yet ANOTHER group of gimmedat's. |
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samanthasunflower User ID: 37056712 United States 07/21/2014 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's be honest, it never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it because no-one else did. The Spanish/Native Mexican cross children who won a revolution against Spain claim it, but they had no moral right to it. Either it all stays with the US, or it goes back to the Native America tribes whom it was actually stolen from. But Mexico gets nothing, because they are owned nothing and deserve nothing! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60260474 United States 07/21/2014 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140 [link to www.debate.org] Idiots! This land belonged to Native Americans NOT MEXICANS! Mexicans were the 3rd owners on the Totem Pole, they stole the territory from Spain! GET YOUR DAMN STORY STRAIGHT! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 536086 United States 07/21/2014 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140 [link to www.debate.org] The Mexicans should have fought harder ..TOUGH SHIT ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60260474 United States 07/21/2014 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
RememberThis User ID: 775141 Canada 07/21/2014 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140 [link to www.debate.org] The Mexicans should have fought harder ..TOUGH SHIT ! You cant even come up with a working sewage system LOL |
Operative User ID: 42054178 United States 07/21/2014 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's be honest, it never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it because no-one else did. The Spanish/Native Mexican cross children who won a revolution against Spain claim it, but they had no moral right to it. Quoting: samanthasunflower Either it all stays with the US, or it goes back to the Native America tribes whom it was actually stolen from. But Mexico gets nothing, because they are owned nothing and deserve nothing! |
beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 07/21/2014 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140 [link to www.debate.org] sounds like Mexicans and "Palestinians" are related under the skin. I fight you, I lose, you give me your land. Last Edited by beeches on 07/21/2014 09:30 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Operative User ID: 42054178 United States 07/21/2014 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's be honest, it never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it because no-one else did. The Spanish/Native Mexican cross children who won a revolution against Spain claim it, but they had no moral right to it. Quoting: samanthasunflower Either it all stays with the US, or it goes back to the Native America tribes whom it was actually stolen from. But Mexico gets nothing, because they are owned nothing and deserve nothing! |