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40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...

 
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07/21/2014 08:43 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
give them texas, put a fence around it and leave them there.
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Unacceptable
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07/21/2014 08:44 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
I think the US did not go far enough. We should have taken all of central America down to Panama and genocided the natives. Then the border of the USA could have been the tiny Panama canal instead of miles of Mexican border.
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07/21/2014 08:50 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone.
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This is the only really effective thing the US has to do to pay its karmic debt with Mexico.

Otherwise Mexicans will keep jumping the border and occupying the land that is rightfully theirs.

Go home gringos!
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07/21/2014 08:51 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Didn't we pay them for the land?
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if i remember right we had 2 wars with mexico. First war gave us most of the west. 2nd war we pretty much bought the very bottom slice of arizona and nevada at a terrible price, buying it was almost a spit in the face, instead of just taking it
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07/21/2014 08:52 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Mexico is a NARCO-STATE...drugs killing, torture and corruption. That all they know how to do. they'd just have another barrio that they created if they were allowed to keep they're last lands
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07/21/2014 08:53 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Texas, and the lands that were Texas at the time, fought a war of independence. Those who fought for independence included both Hispanic and Caucasian Texans. Their independence was recognized by Mexico. They did not join the United States until later.

So Texas, and all the lands that were Texas at the time....Mexico has zero claim to.

During the Mexican War the only matter in dispute were the borders. Mexico claimed that Texas border was at the Nueces River. The United States claimed the Texas border was at the Rio Grande.

The only territory in question then is the Mexican Cession and the Gadsden Purchase. Since the Gadsden Purchase was a purchase and money changed hands and that check was cashed....Mexico has no claim whatsoever to that territory. None.

That leaves only the territory of the Mexican Cession.

This territory was ceded to the US through treaty which was ratified through a Mexican legislative vote of 51 to 34 and a Senate vote of 33 to 4, on 19 May 1848.

All but 1000 Mexican citizens of the territory chose to take US citizenship instead of retain Mexican citizenship.

Since that time the Mexican government has engaged with the United States on adjustments of the border and small territorial exchanges...further highlighting their acceptance of the border over a long period of time and through multiple governments.

The Mexican-American War was not a just war. But Mexico accepted the outcome, ratified the treaty, and recognized it for over 150 years now and that has really extinguished any real claims.
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone.
[link to www.debate.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140


This is the only really effective thing the US has to do to pay its karmic debt with Mexico.

Otherwise Mexicans will keep jumping the border and occupying the land that is rightfully theirs.

Go home gringos!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581915


Look, man. You Mexicans exist today because we were nice enough not to have killed you all off. We still could if you want to push us.
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Mexico is a NARCO-STATE...drugs killing, torture and corruption. That all they know how to do. they'd just have another barrio that they created if they were allowed to keep they're last lands
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You obviously have never gone to Mexico.

You are all fucked up in the head.
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07/21/2014 08:55 PM

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Fuck mexico. They lost. All is fair in war.
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Epstein didn’t kill himself.
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07/21/2014 08:59 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
With the defeat of its army and the fall of the capital, Mexico entered into negotiations to end the war. The treaty called for the United States to pay $15 million to Mexico and pay off the claims of American citizens against Mexico up to $3.25 million. It gave the United States the Rio Grande boundary for Texas, and gave the U.S. ownership of California, and a large area comprising New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado. Mexicans in those annexed areas had the choice of relocating to within Mexico's new boundaries or of receiving American citizenship with full civil rights. Over 90% chose the latter.
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07/21/2014 08:59 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
the U.S. paid 15,000,000 for the land as part of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Bought and paid for, we own it.
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07/21/2014 09:01 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Fuck mexico. They lost. All is fair in war.
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So.. If China and Russia, or even the whole BRICS block would conquer the US and steal land from you, then you would be totally cool with that?

Anyways.. Not sure why the US should give the land back.. It won't matter anyway.. The US border is a joke, they can just come into the country and live where they want and once the NAU is reality then it won't really matter anymore anyway...
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Fuck mexico. They lost. All is fair in war.
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So.. If China and Russia, or even the whole BRICS block would conquer the US and steal land from you, then you would be totally cool with that?
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone.
[link to www.debate.org]
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40% of who?

Mexicans?
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07/21/2014 09:05 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Fuck mexico. They lost. All is fair in war.
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So if I go to war with you, I can keep whatever I take?

Sweet.
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Look, man. You Mexicans exist today because we were nice enough not to have killed you all off. We still could if you want to push us.
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Strong words, you could start with securing your border ;)
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07/21/2014 09:07 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Oh great. Now someone from Belgium thinks they know what they are talking about. Mexico attacked the US. Mexico lost. The US gave land back to them including giving them back Mexico City.

Don't you have an EU dictator you can take on?
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07/21/2014 09:09 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
After the Mexican-American War of 1848 in which the US kicked mexican ass...the US then also PAID MEXICO FOR THAT SAME LAND!

Is mexico going to pay the US back revalued for inflation & property upgrades?

Mexico has tons of undeveloped land...they want DEVELOPED land with pre-existing INFRASTRUCTURE.

In other words...we have yet ANOTHER group of gimmedat's.
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07/21/2014 09:12 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
In the America documentary movie this is one of the things they looked into.
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Let's be honest, it never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it because no-one else did. The Spanish/Native Mexican cross children who won a revolution against Spain claim it, but they had no moral right to it.

Either it all stays with the US, or it goes back to the Native America tribes whom it was actually stolen from. But Mexico gets nothing, because they are owned nothing and deserve nothing!
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07/21/2014 09:18 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Mexicans gave up the land when they couldn't handle the Indians
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07/21/2014 09:22 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone.
[link to www.debate.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211140


Idiots! This land belonged to Native Americans NOT MEXICANS!
Mexicans were the 3rd owners on the Totem Pole, they stole the territory from Spain!

GET YOUR DAMN STORY STRAIGHT!
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07/21/2014 09:22 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Forgot about the Native Americans that were genocided so that mexico and america could fight over what was left.
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07/21/2014 09:24 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
They can't manage what they have.
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07/21/2014 09:26 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone.
[link to www.debate.org]
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The Mexicans should have fought harder ..TOUGH SHIT !
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07/21/2014 09:28 PM
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They can't manage what they have.
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Mexicans have been forever jealous of what the Americans
did here in the U.S. American success always made Mexicans
feel like the losers they always have been!
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone.
[link to www.debate.org]
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The Mexicans should have fought harder ..TOUGH SHIT !
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You cant even come up with a working sewage system LOL
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07/21/2014 09:30 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Let's be honest, it never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it because no-one else did. The Spanish/Native Mexican cross children who won a revolution against Spain claim it, but they had no moral right to it.

Either it all stays with the US, or it goes back to the Native America tribes whom it was actually stolen from. But Mexico gets nothing, because they are owned nothing and deserve nothing!
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


hesright
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
...After the Mexican-American War of 1848.There is a very believable argument that says that these lands were taken illegally.With that in mind and to keep peace,the US should go ahead and return the lands for the best interest of everyone.
[link to www.debate.org]
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sounds like Mexicans and "Palestinians" are related under the skin.

I fight you, I lose, you give me your land.

Last Edited by beeches on 07/21/2014 09:30 PM
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Re: 40% believe Mexico should be given back lands seized by the United States...
Let's be honest, it never belonged to Mexico. Spain claimed it because no-one else did. The Spanish/Native Mexican cross children who won a revolution against Spain claim it, but they had no moral right to it.

Either it all stays with the US, or it goes back to the Native America tribes whom it was actually stolen from. But Mexico gets nothing, because they are owned nothing and deserve nothing!
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hesright





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