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Reverse-engineered alien propulsion technology (video)

 
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So these ships are just further engineered Nazi tech or are they reverse engineered from Alien craft?
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There have been reported ufo crashes pre 1900's, don't you think earlier governments would try to reverse engineer them?
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True!
I was just wondering if we recovered a craft and then reverse engineered it or if were just elaborating on off of where the Nazi's left off. The Nazi must have had a recovered craft for sure. ^ He talked about how it was like the Nazi bell, etc... That's what sparked the question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60312518


I'm wondering why all the secret government ufo tech is constantly being talked about like it started after 1947!
If I were in a government in, let's say, 1780, and I got posessions of this technology, I would try to make use of it. Even a king from the 1500's would probabely be curious.
I think the people have been fooled for a very long time with the level technology.
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So has OP video been debunked ?

Is it jenkum?
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Just out of curiosity I tried to do just that. First of all the kid that made it is definitely fucking dead. Initially it seemed like it might be a marketing ploy but I dug around and found the obit - outside of that - they've made him disappear from the internet. I could find no history, no imdb, no pics - nothin'. As far as the science goes the people in it are very real and the science is very real. All of the materials referenced exist and are totally legit.

I'd say all in all this has both intrigued and terrified me. Seems like an interesting subject but if they're gonna whack a film school student for a senior project, my curiosity has been satisfied. This is easily 10000 times scarier than anything I've ever watched on the internet. I can't help but wonder if they warned the kid or how this even got released, or why it's still up. Maybe to flush out the others?

One other terrifying thing; Thomas Valone. When digging to see if this was internet BS, I discovered they fucking killed his kid - but they let him live. Must still be useful? Either way, I ain't messing with this shit!
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The reason this is out on YT is that I had done some test screenings some time ago. It was quietly uploaded and the link was only given to a few people. Now it's 'gotten loose' - which is kind of a bummer - I spent over 10k on James' funeral expenses and autopsy. I'm also the executor of his will and own the intellectual property rights to the film. I am looking for either a streaming service or distribution service in hope that I can recoup the expenses as well as get this to a wider audience. Any suggestions are welcomed!
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You can try getting it up on Netflix. I'm not sure how that works or how well they pay but it's worth a shot!

They may not want to touch this material though, it's to "good!"
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So these ships are just further engineered Nazi tech or are they reverse engineered from Alien craft?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60312518


There have been reported ufo crashes pre 1900's, don't you think earlier governments would try to reverse engineer them?
 Quoting: KipKat


True!
I was just wondering if we recovered a craft and then reverse engineered it or if were just elaborating on off of where the Nazi's left off. The Nazi must have had a recovered craft for sure. ^ He talked about how it was like the Nazi bell, etc... That's what sparked the question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60312518


I'm wondering why all the secret government ufo tech is constantly being talked about like it started after 1947!
If I were in a government in, let's say, 1780, and I got posessions of this technology, I would try to make use of it. Even a king from the 1500's would probabely be curious.
I think the people have been fooled for a very long time with the level technology.
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I agreee 100%.
I also think we has mass use of advance tech throughout most of the world thousands of years ago, and so how a great reset happened. Maybe it was deliberate.
It's possible a small group survived and decided to keep this tech hush hush / for use for only themselves.
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Whoa!!!! Check out the comments:::vvv

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"Note: The young film maker James Allen of this documentary just died a few months ago under mysterious circumstances and the self ordered autopsy revealed uranium and thorium in his system."

"Found it! Here you go [link to www.paradigmresearchgroup.org]
The cause of death was heavy metal poisoning, specifically Uranium and Thorium."
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I see nothing in the autopsy report that said "the cause of death was heavy metal poisoning, specifically uranium and thorium". I do see this:

Twelve (12) of the twenty-one(21) metals detected above recommended high levels.

Elevated Selenium which can be explained easily by the sample donor taking supplements.

The same holds for Zinc and Manganese. The Cadmium elevation maybe due to cigarette use.

NOWHERE does it state the cause of death was heavy metal poisoning. And if this guy had cancer, how old was he?
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I understand your doubt. I HOPED the autopsy would come out normal! After all, I encouraged him - no, introduced him - to this stuff. That is a burden I will bear for the rest of my life. He was my best friend as well as colleague here in Savannah.

Of course I am skeptical too, and contacted the GA dept of health out of due diligence; after all, SOMEHOW this stuff got in him! Maybe there's a public health hazard! A toxic dump or superfund site not disclosed. They responded that there are no such sources in Savannah and that the levels of cancer in Savannah are 'normal'. So no cancer cluster. No metals.

It should be pointed out that James would not take vitamins. I made juices for him daily as his health declined. Chemo destroys your appetite and ability to hold food down. For the last 2 months I had gotten him numerous supplements. When I cleaned out his place after he died, I found them all, unopened. Mark McCandlish and I are both big proponents of alternative medicine, but James was a hard-headed guy and thought it was not going to help, and perhaps hurt his progress.

Although he had high levels of cadmium in his body, a doctor told me that his level was far higher than in smokers.

I have been able to eliminate Platinum from the list as platinum is used in chemotherapy.

Also, to be fair I should point out that these are BLOOD LEVELS, not tissue levels. In speaking with a forensic pathologist with a university, there are two issues with this kind of measurement:
1. This means that those elements were in his blood. Most heavy metals migrate to the organs.
2. It is the accumulation of heavy metals in organs that is used in legal cases as forensic evidence.

What we CAN conclude is that either:
1. James had been poisoned very recently, AFTER he had cancer, or
2. The amount of heavy metals was so high that the organs had not yet absorbed all the metals, or reached saturation levels.

Additionally, bile duct cancer is very rare. There is only one direct causative agent for his primary cancer, which was bile duct cancer: Thorium, which was in his blood ten times over the max acceptable limit.
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I have the 3d model of the craft, most of which I constructed. I also have a model of the inner core, which I've been musing about editing into the film. It is a particle simulation and because of the layered nature of the core it has been difficult to visualize in a way that satisfies me or Mark McCandlish. However, I'm going to crack it open and see what I can do.

There is a lot of additional footage of Mark; Although Mark's public presentations are very sharp, focused and clear, in real life he's a real rambler! And a super-nice guy. But we had to edit a lot of his rambling because he'd go off on tangents or details which would be confusing to the uninitiated.
 Quoting: ZP_Producer


Actually I just uploaded a preview shot of the central core operation:
It's still processing on Vimeo, but here is the link -
[link to vimeo.com (secure)]
 Quoting: ZP_Producer





Page not found

Sorry, there is no video here.
Either it was deleted or it never existed in the first place. Such are the mysteries of the Internet.
 Quoting: NODOOM


It takes a while before it's view-able. It can take hours unless you have paid account. Check back later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60312518


Try now. It's up!
[link to vimeo.com (secure)]
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It works now!!
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So has OP video been debunked ?

Is it jenkum?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Just out of curiosity I tried to do just that. First of all the kid that made it is definitely fucking dead. Initially it seemed like it might be a marketing ploy but I dug around and found the obit - outside of that - they've made him disappear from the internet. I could find no history, no imdb, no pics - nothin'. As far as the science goes the people in it are very real and the science is very real. All of the materials referenced exist and are totally legit.

I'd say all in all this has both intrigued and terrified me. Seems like an interesting subject but if they're gonna whack a film school student for a senior project, my curiosity has been satisfied. This is easily 10000 times scarier than anything I've ever watched on the internet. I can't help but wonder if they warned the kid or how this even got released, or why it's still up. Maybe to flush out the others?

One other terrifying thing; Thomas Valone. When digging to see if this was internet BS, I discovered they fucking killed his kid - but they let him live. Must still be useful? Either way, I ain't messing with this shit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57697009


The reason this is out on YT is that I had done some test screenings some time ago. It was quietly uploaded and the link was only given to a few people. Now it's 'gotten loose' - which is kind of a bummer - I spent over 10k on James' funeral expenses and autopsy. I'm also the executor of his will and own the intellectual property rights to the film. I am looking for either a streaming service or distribution service in hope that I can recoup the expenses as well as get this to a wider audience. Any suggestions are welcomed!
 Quoting: ZP_Producer


You can try getting it up on Netflix. I'm not sure how that works or how well they pay but it's worth a shot!

They may not want to touch this material though, it's to "good!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60312518


I researched that. Apparently you have to pay a 'representative' (i.e. freelance lobbyist of sorts) about 2 or 3k for a 'guaranteed' spot on NF. And the residuals are not great...but you never know, If I have to fork out another couple of grand just for it to hit the mainstream, with a chance of making some money back, I'll consider it.
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It works now!!
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Ok i think i get it...

next... what is the composition of the material used?
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It works now!!
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Ok i think i get it...

next... what is the composition of the material used?
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Mercury-Thorium mix is what they surmise, but that's only speculation based on previous research of the Nazi Bell. Mercury for sure.
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Thanks for the questions gang! I'm going outside to get some sunlight. I'll be back on later today. Looks like I can't post any images here without a premium account. If any know of a way, lmk.
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I think its time we start a GLP kickstarter on this thing
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Thanks for the questions gang! I'm going outside to get some sunlight. I'll be back on later today. Looks like I can't post any images here without a premium account. If any know of a way, lmk.
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Thank you for stopping by! :)

You can post links to the pics though!

You can use tiny pic ( [link to tinypic.com] or something similar.
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[link to tinypic.com]
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since your the zp guy,ill cut you some slack.yes it is like a blender within ablender but that is just because the ions are polarizing.it may be a tube within a tube but i doubt it.the reason iron is used is because iron doesnt chemically react with mercury.neither does quartz.thats why mercury vapor bulbs were made of quartz glass.there is no strange fields made within.its just a ion separator.the positive ions go to the top and the negative ions pool at the bottom.there is an insulator of ceramic or such that keeps the apparatus from shorting out.when i fired up my mercury engine.and got the bottom red hot.you could touch the top with your hand.it was warm but nothing extreme.the heat is infrared which is converted to uv which then bleeds through the iron and released to ionize the outside air.the magnetic field that is created by the machine ,drives the ions.these ions are the thrust.

i would like to invite you to visit pegasus research consortium,as we desparately need a graphics guy.we are a group of researchers.no shills need apply as you will be ran off immediately.im not trying to skim members from glp,just asking for some graphics help.

we also have two video analyzers for testing fake ufo vids from real.so if anybody has a ufo vid,your invited to submit it and have it analyzed for free.

also to the vid guy.one of our team leaders named thorfourwinds lives in rabun county georgia if you would like to get in contact in person.
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[link to www.thelivingmoon.com]

here is the link.thanyou for a wonderful vid.
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[link to www.thelivingmoon.com]

here is the link.thanyou for a wonderful vid.
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To a forum that asks you to sign up And it tries to download some wma file to you just by clicking the link!
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since your the zp guy,ill cut you some slack.yes it is like a blender within ablender but that is just because the ions are polarizing.it may be a tube within a tube but i doubt it.the reason iron is used is because iron doesnt chemically react with mercury.neither does quartz.thats why mercury vapor bulbs were made of quartz glass.there is no strange fields made within.its just a ion separator.the positive ions go to the top and the negative ions pool at the bottom.there is an insulator of ceramic or such that keeps the apparatus from shorting out.when i fired up my mercury engine.and got the bottom red hot.you could touch the top with your hand.it was warm but nothing extreme.the heat is infrared which is converted to uv which then bleeds through the iron and released to ionize the outside air.the magnetic field that is created by the machine ,drives the ions.these ions are the thrust.

i would like to invite you to visit pegasus research consortium,as we desparately need a graphics guy.we are a group of researchers.no shills need apply as you will be ran off immediately.im not trying to skim members from glp,just asking for some graphics help.

we also have two video analyzers for testing fake ufo vids from real.so if anybody has a ufo vid,your invited to submit it and have it analyzed for free.

also to the vid guy.one of our team leaders named thorfourwinds lives in rabun county georgia if you would like to get in contact in person.
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Can you post pics/video of your mercury engine?
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Not sure if this video has been posted here yet or not, but I found this to be a vary interesting.

Show how the crafts have been built, talks about how they work and travel so fast!


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I thinks it's all disinformation ..... Utterbullshit I wreckon
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Is this technology scaleable to any size? Is this what's in the shoebox sized devices that could power a house?
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Here's the cutaway of the central core - thanks for the tip OP!


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Is this technology scaleable to any size? Is this what's in the shoebox sized devices that could power a house?
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That is, according to a few people I've spoken with, possible. It would still require a lot of money and some very good engineers and physicists.
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since your the zp guy,ill cut you some slack.yes it is like a blender within ablender but that is just because the ions are polarizing.it may be a tube within a tube but i doubt it.the reason iron is used is because iron doesnt chemically react with mercury.neither does quartz.thats why mercury vapor bulbs were made of quartz glass.there is no strange fields made within.its just a ion separator.the positive ions go to the top and the negative ions pool at the bottom.there is an insulator of ceramic or such that keeps the apparatus from shorting out.when i fired up my mercury engine.and got the bottom red hot.you could touch the top with your hand.it was warm but nothing extreme.the heat is infrared which is converted to uv which then bleeds through the iron and released to ionize the outside air.the magnetic field that is created by the machine ,drives the ions.these ions are the thrust.

i would like to invite you to visit pegasus research consortium,as we desparately need a graphics guy.we are a group of researchers.no shills need apply as you will be ran off immediately.im not trying to skim members from glp,just asking for some graphics help.

we also have two video analyzers for testing fake ufo vids from real.so if anybody has a ufo vid,your invited to submit it and have it analyzed for free.

also to the vid guy.one of our team leaders named thorfourwinds lives in rabun county georgia if you would like to get in contact in person.
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Thanks for the invite but I have too many irons in the fire as it is! Glad you like the film!
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