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i still have hope for dawkins. hes said things that lead me to believe that there is still hope for him. just doesnt seem quite as hard hearted as say christopher hitchens was or even sam harris is. hopefully dawkins doesnt join hitchens in hell
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i still have hope for dawkins. hes said things that lead me to believe that there is still hope for him. just doesnt seem quite as hard hearted as say christopher hitchens was or even sam harris is. hopefully dawkins doesnt join hitchens in hell
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at the same time he undoubtedly caused millions to turn from God and end up in hell so who knows if its even possible for him to be saved at this point. the damage hes done might just be too much
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He's headed for the Lake of Fire, but so were many
Christians before they were saved.

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i still have hope for dawkins. hes said things that lead me to believe that there is still hope for him. just doesnt seem quite as hard hearted as say christopher hitchens was or even sam harris is. hopefully dawkins doesnt join hitchens in hell
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Hitchens took his stink in to his grave with him,this is why pride is a sin!
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The loss of our spiritual self is what is responsible for the darkness of today's society.

Material science and the way MSM fawn over the likes of Dawkins are responsible for stealing our spiritual self.

Mankind is not the transient, brief, flickering result of a random cosmic accident.
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If everyone were half as intelligent and rational as Richard Dawkins, the world would be a much better place. It's ignorance that's killing society - plain and simple.
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i love him; he's a brilliant man. I've read a couple of his books, and i believe it's important to well educate yourselves on the science he teaches before opionating him. much less discredit any of his scientific facts

my mother always said that i need to educate myself if i wanted to follow any of my beliefs and i've had big help from him, this site, and plenty of other authors. I'd suggest you do the same before bringing up a slandering argument with only a video

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If everyone were half as intelligent and rational as Richard Dawkins, the world would be a much better place. It's ignorance that's killing society - plain and simple.
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Ignorance reigns supreme over the majority of human history. We now have the cure literally at our fingertips and yet still so many choose to remain in the dark. That is willed ignorance, and the foundation for generational brainwashing and propagandists.
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He's a scientist
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i still have hope for dawkins. hes said things that lead me to believe that there is still hope for him. just doesnt seem quite as hard hearted as say christopher hitchens was or even sam harris is. hopefully dawkins doesnt join hitchens in hell
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Actually I think Hitchens might not be in hell. I hope he became a Christian and accepted Jesus before he died. You can see in some videos while Hitchens was very sick, he definitely had a bit of a change of heart. He also made some statements about God and a possible truth about him once or twice. Keep in mind that Hitchens also has a brother that is a Christian who spoke to him quite a lot. If Hitchens didn't want to accept Jesus before he died... Maybe he decided to accept Jesus for his brother. One can only hope, may God be eternally praised.


Both these videos are highly related and definitely worth watching.

Hitchens tells little girl: "remember the love bit"
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Hitchens goes too far: offers Dawkins Biblical evidence!
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Another thing to consider is that possibly people might start slipping away, experience hell or darkness and become extremely frightened, snap back into their body for a split second and call on Jesus, and have Jesus rescue them before they die.

Something tells me it is DEFINITELY possible that Cristopher Hitchens is in heaven! Remember, with man it is impossible; but with God all things are possible! Hitchens I really liked the guy, he did a lot of things like undergone water boarding to show how it is torture, had that very humbling cancer attack his body, and these things are considered virtues in Christianity. Humility and suffering for righteousness sake are virtues in Christianity! Praise God!

When we get to heaven... It might surprise us who all is in heaven... And it might surprise us... Who isn't.
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One extremely pathetic thing about these "scientists" crying science, science, science! to deny religion is that they're ignoring all the good important evidences of science for a spiritual world. Like EVP, electronic voice phenomena, which has proven that it's capable of picking up the voices of otherworldly entities. I believe most of these entities to be demons or demons impersonating the dead, but you don't hear scientists talk about this because it goes against their agenda.

That's only the tip of the iceberg too; lots more evidence for a spiritual world.

Still though no one is perfect, I don't condemn these people! We're all imperfect and only Jesus can justify us before God.
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He's headed for the Lake of Fire, but so were many
Christians before they were saved.

With GOD, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

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I am deeply saddened by those who refuse to believe in the Love of Christ, and that he shed his blood on Calvary that we might have everlasting life (John 3:16).

If Paul, a murderer of Christ followers, can come to repentance, there's still hope for Dawkins.

Why die for your sins, when Christ already did it for you?
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He's just another arm of the octopus. Different bolshevik brain washing for a different crowd.

Read his stuff. Pathetic.
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i still have hope for dawkins. hes said things that lead me to believe that there is still hope for him. just doesnt seem quite as hard hearted as say christopher hitchens was or even sam harris is. hopefully dawkins doesnt join hitchens in hell
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Hell is only the common grave where everybody goes at death, no one goes to heaven, death is not a promotion to a better place or a damnation beginning of punishment. Death is plenty punishment enough until a second chance when the resurrection begins during the 1,000 year reign of Christ'
" I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust. 21 Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upward; and the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending downward to the earth? 22 And I have seen that there is nothing better than that the man should rejoice in his works, for that is his portion; because who will bring him in to look on what is going to be after him?" Ecc3;14
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Dawkins may say it like a douche but imo he's right. We are one small planet in a modest sized galaxy and quite likely in one of many universes. I don't really see much hope for us so I try and not dwell on it. It is what is is.
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i love him; he's a brilliant man. I've read a couple of his books, and i believe it's important to well educate yourselves on the science he teaches before opionating him. much less discredit any of his scientific facts

my mother always said that i need to educate myself if i wanted to follow any of my beliefs and i've had big help from him, this site, and plenty of other authors. I'd suggest you do the same before bringing up a slandering argument with only a video
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I agree You should educate yourself but you also need to see both sides of the coin.

Dawkins is just one, extreme viewpoint. I would recommend everybody Read some works by Richard Nabey, Rupert Sheldrake (he wrote the science delusion as a retort to The God delusion), John Anthony West, Michael Cremo, Webster Tarpley, dr Rick Strassman, dr S Meyer (the DNA guy, not the disclosure loon) etc..

you'll soon view life, history, science, society, origins and mind with a whole new perspective, I've read all of these authors and it's humbling to know that the more knowledge we gain, the more we realise how little we know, the more mysterious the world becomes and possibilities can become much more far reaching.

There is without doubt a mathematical and geometric order to the universe and I'm certain it's not just blind chance and accident.

There's more to life than Dawkins that's for sure and in my view he is in part responsible for the inconsequential, resource gathering, nihilism of today's society.
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lol, he will be so surprised when he ends up in atheists hell...

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i love him; he's a brilliant man. I've read a couple of his books, and i believe it's important to well educate yourselves on the science he teaches before opionating him. much less discredit any of his scientific facts

my mother always said that i need to educate myself if i wanted to follow any of my beliefs and i've had big help from him, this site, and plenty of other authors. I'd suggest you do the same before bringing up a slandering argument with only a video
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I agree You should educate yourself but you also need to see both sides of the coin.

Dawkins is just one, extreme viewpoint. I would recommend everybody Read some works by Richard Nabey, Rupert Sheldrake (he wrote the science delusion as a retort to The God delusion), John Anthony West, Michael Cremo, Webster Tarpley, dr Rick Strassman, dr S Meyer (the DNA guy, not the disclosure loon) etc..

you'll soon view life, history, science, society, origins and mind with a whole new perspective, I've read all of these authors and it's humbling to know that the more knowledge we gain, the more we realise how little we know, the more mysterious the world becomes and possibilities can become much more far reaching.

There is without doubt a mathematical and geometric order to the universe and I'm certain it's not just blind chance and accident.

There's more to life than Dawkins that's for sure and in my view he is in part responsible for the inconsequential, resource gathering, nihilism of today's society.
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read Robert Allan Monroe books... an audio engineer that spontaneously started to OBE
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Why would a 70-80yr life be momentary? meaningless? Odd. However what you do in your momentary life will result in infinite reward or punishment? And if I disagree I am in a cult ? I think some of us decline cult membership and he cultists fear the rejection.
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I posted this on another atheist thread but I think it's equally at home here considering Dawkin's view on God.

Nobody will understand God while people insist on personifying Him as if he is some kind of all knowing mythical person. A one grand creator constantly watching His kingdom.

God is a universal essence, God is mathematics, geometry, consciousness. God is Pythagoras' God of numbers, God is Einstein's unified field, God is Plato's aether, God is dark matter.

Our thought, behaviour and intent creates our physical health, mental health and the way in which others perceive us and react to us. Our mind is creating our own personal reality which represents only a narrow visible and audible spectrum in a limited material world.

You could say our mind creates our reality, we are our own creators. If God is a creator, is our mind God? Our minds are also part of a greater reality that exists outside of that which is observable to us.

God is the mystery of life that pervades every atom and exists in us all. Understanding this is the first step and the possibilities are endless. Do not be tied to dogma, superstition or habit. Live well, read well, learn, share and only focus on the positive. Negative thoughts will only lead to illness, positive thoughts will only lead to development.
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Atheists are dangerous. They speak with forked tongue.
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I liked him when he was in Hogans' Heroes
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Why would a 70-80yr life be momentary? meaningless? Odd. However what you do in your momentary life will result in infinite reward or punishment? And if I disagree I am in a cult ? I think some of us decline cult membership and he cultists fear the rejection.
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In the universal scheme of things, humans have been around for just a fraction, an individual life time is barely a blink in the age of the Earth.

Dawkin's seems to view life we are here as the result of blind chance thats taken 4 billion years to come to fruition. We are little more than gene carrier's and when you're dead you're dead. No spirit, No soul, No return, No Purpose. No debate.

I'd say that could make one man's life time sound pretty meaningless.
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i love him; he's a brilliant man. I've read a couple of his books, and i believe it's important to well educate yourselves on the science he teaches before opionating him. much less discredit any of his scientific facts
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Dawkins is like 90% style, 10% facts. Most of his main "evidences" for evolution have long since been debunked or revealed to be total misrepresentations of the data. His arguments are failures.

He's just good at giving atheist sermons and has celebrity status.
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If everyone were half as intelligent and rational as Richard Dawkins, the world would be a much better place. It's ignorance that's killing society - plain and simple.
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Seems to me it's because the world is as unintelligent and irrational as Dawkins that makes it mess it has degenerated/devolved to.
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[link to www.physics.org]
We are all made of stardust. It sounds like a line from a poem, but there is some solid science behind this statement too: almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star.

Momentary and meaningless my ass... Dawkins, as a scientists, and the people who praise his intellect understand that we are all a part of the greater cosmos that we live in. That can have the effect of making you feel small and insignificant, but that is you failing to understand that you are a part of the whole. I firmly believe that beyond race, beyond economic barriers, religion serves only to divide mankind. It was useful once upon a time, but we as a species have outgrown the need for supernatural explanations for life, the universe, and everything.

Think of it like this: When you were a child (and from the content of 99.99% of your posts defaming Darwin and Dawkins I'm not totally sure you aren't) Things like Santa Claus, and The Tooth Fairy were tools to help you understand the natural world around you. I.E. Santa taught you that you will be rewarded for kindness / following the rules. Now as an adult you know that while you won't necessarily be rewarded for following the ruled, you won't be punished. (There are exceptions of course, but that's another matter entirely.)

The same can be said for religion. It was an attempt by early man to understand the natural world around them. I.E. God / Odin / The Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe and thus we must worship it / him / them.

Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, someone figured out that mortal fear for the immortal soul is a very effective motivator.

It boggles the mind that in this day and age more people can't see that they are the marionettes dancing on the strings of their spiritual puppeteers.
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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[link to www.physics.org]
We are all made of stardust. It sounds like a line from a poem, but there is some solid science behind this statement too: almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star.

Momentary and meaningless my ass... Dawkins, as a scientists, and the people who praise his intellect understand that we are all a part of the greater cosmos that we live in. That can have the effect of making you feel small and insignificant, but that is you failing to understand that you are a part of the whole. I firmly believe that beyond race, beyond economic barriers, religion serves only to divide mankind. It was useful once upon a time, but we as a species have outgrown the need for supernatural explanations for life, the universe, and everything.

Think of it like this: When you were a child (and from the content of 99.99% of your posts defaming Darwin and Dawkins I'm not totally sure you aren't) Things like Santa Claus, and The Tooth Fairy were tools to help you understand the natural world around you. I.E. Santa taught you that you will be rewarded for kindness / following the rules. Now as an adult you know that while you won't necessarily be rewarded for following the ruled, you won't be punished. (There are exceptions of course, but that's another matter entirely.)

The same can be said for religion. It was an attempt by early man to understand the natural world around them. I.E. God / Odin / The Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe and thus we must worship it / him / them.

Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, someone figured out that mortal fear for the immortal soul is a very effective motivator.

It boggles the mind that in this day and age more people can't see that they are the marionettes dancing on the strings of their spiritual puppeteers.
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I wouldn't say the puppeteers pulling the strings of this world are spiritual, but rather demonic;
" We know that every [person] that has been born from God does not practice sin, but the One born from God watches him, and the wicked one does not fasten his hold on him. 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. 20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain the knowledge of the true one. And we are in union with the true one, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting. 21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols.' 1Jo5;19

I think kids get the wrong message from Santa, this would be a better lesson;
"YOU must assist those who are weak, and must bear in mind the words of the Lord Jesus, when he himself said, ‘There is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving.’” Ac20:35

QUOTE: "but we as a species have outgrown the need for supernatural explanations for life, the universe, and everything."
I think our need for the explanation for life is becoming desperately needed by this degenerating world. i don't think 'natural selection" explains God's intentions or solution to our march to self inflicted extinction at all.
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is grass green and water wet? of course he is!

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