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Child support system TOTALLY out of control!

 
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Dead beat dads waiting for another MAN to pick up their bill...

Dead beat dads waiting for the mother to pay ALL the bills...

Deadbeat dads leaving the kids questioning why their father was no MAN....

Deadbeat dads need to grow up and fast!

They endanger their kids lives!!!!
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Uh, go get laid , seriously bananasex
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I used to be on the shit-end of the stick. Two children from two different women and divorced both. Had a great job and they milked me for A LONG time.

Today, I have both kids in my custody, but it took an extraordinary amount of patience and planning to swing it.

I'm no martyr, but I don't ask for a dime from either of them.

I do it without courts and dictate my rules very clearly.

It can be done!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60772527


Please sir, enlighten this forum. there are many who would like to hear it.


Currently, I've filed a case on my own, and have done a bang up job just following the instructions online, and then filling the forms themselves is pretty easy too.
Hiring a lawyer is just a better way to fleece yourself. Go it alone - the lawyers have not only fucked me over, but lined their pockets. I lost almost everything but the car I use to drive to my slave job where I make money for anyone but myself. How I will afford repairs, or even a new auto when this one breaks down is a scary thought indeed.


Also, the troll army with the bitter women latched on the hitch has arrived.
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There's a lot I can't say, but you have to be just as cold and uncaring as the courts. Pay attention to everything they do and DOCUMENT it all. I had to wait for them to make a mistake and pounced.

Stay alert, stay alive.
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Dead beat dads waiting for another MAN to pick up their bill...

Dead beat dads waiting for the mother to pay ALL the bills...

Deadbeat dads leaving the kids questioning why their father was no MAN....

Deadbeat dads need to grow up and fast!

They endanger their kids lives!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60817836


Uh, go get laid , seriously bananasex
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Pathetic!
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fuck'n her right in the pussy

has consequences
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when fuckin her right in the pussy goes wrong.
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Dead beat dads waiting for another MAN to pick up their bill...

Dead beat dads waiting for the mother to pay ALL the bills...

Deadbeat dads leaving the kids questioning why their father was no MAN....

Deadbeat dads need to grow up and fast!

They endanger their kids lives!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60817836


Uh, go get laid , seriously bananasex
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44009461


Pathetic!
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Just bend over babe, everything's going to be just fine sideways
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less than 2G on an extradition? wtf? I am owed over 12G in back support for an asshole that doesn't pay. He's had a warrant for his arrest for almost 2 years and has yet to get caught. My deadbeat asshole refuses to pay, sounds like this guy actually paid. None the less, it, much like student loans never goes away and always accrues interest. Stories like this piss me off. Makes it like, "oh that poor man" meanwhile there are many single mothers out there struggling to get by knowing they aren't going to bleed a turnip.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14977441


Stories like this "piss you off" because you know the game is nearly up. Wasn't this "deadbeat asshole" the same asshole who you let pump you full of cum, the same asshole who you decided to have a child by?

LOL...and you think you have a moral right to demand money from him because of YOUR choices?

Serves you right.

s226
 Quoting: THE MIGHTY PHALLUS SPEAKS 60499582


We were married for 7 years. 5 before kids. He turned to drugs and eventually harder drugs and when all was said and done, he assaulted my mother who is elderly. He is LOST and his children are without a father because of it. Enforcing the support on him was supposed to be a last ditch effort to get him into jail which would lead to a treatment facility but instead her prefers meth houses and God knows what. Having the children was OUR choice and him choosing drugs and walking out on his family was HIS choice.
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I would just move in next door to snowden. That bitch of an ex wife wouldn't get shit!
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less than 2G on an extradition? wtf? I am owed over 12G in back support for an asshole that doesn't pay. He's had a warrant for his arrest for almost 2 years and has yet to get caught. My deadbeat asshole refuses to pay, sounds like this guy actually paid. None the less, it, much like student loans never goes away and always accrues interest. Stories like this piss me off. Makes it like, "oh that poor man" meanwhile there are many single mothers out there struggling to get by knowing they aren't going to bleed a turnip.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14977441


Stories like this "piss you off" because you know the game is nearly up. Wasn't this "deadbeat asshole" the same asshole who you let pump you full of cum, the same asshole who you decided to have a child by?

LOL...and you think you have a moral right to demand money from him because of YOUR choices?

Serves you right.

s226
 Quoting: THE MIGHTY PHALLUS SPEAKS 60499582


We were married for 7 years. 5 before kids. He turned to drugs and eventually harder drugs and when all was said and done, he assaulted my mother who is elderly. He is LOST and his children are without a father because of it. Enforcing the support on him was supposed to be a last ditch effort to get him into jail which would lead to a treatment facility but instead her prefers meth houses and God knows what. Having the children was OUR choice and him choosing drugs and walking out on his family was HIS choice.
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you can't do anything with a geeker.
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Both parents can be absolute dorks/idiots . Both parents can be selfish and cruel.

But by the child is on earth its too late and bills have to be paid and life goes on... So the child comes first not the selfish parents which ever one they are!

That's my take on it, who ever would withhold from a child is just a coward. Not even selfish, they are just plain bully.
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Just do anal sex, no kids no worry. Either that or go gay.
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I find that hard to believe since my ex owes my son about $40, 000 and NC did nothing about it. He stopped paying support

when he was about 4, giving all the responsibility to my new husband both emotionally and financially. He would not even

buy the kid a birthday present every year. Karma is a bitch though....
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Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!!

Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

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I find that hard to believe since my ex owes my son about $40, 000 and NC did nothing about it. He stopped paying support

when he was about 4, giving all the responsibility to my new husband both emotionally and financially. He would not even

buy the kid a birthday present every year. Karma is a bitch though....
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


Should be 50/50. But in the UK they will only take 10% off the man very little.. Only enough for one meal per week for the child. Tax payers pay sadly the man runs off.
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Wish me luck.

Going to court tomorrow and before the same judge again.

I won't give details except to say, the judge had ex parte communications with my ex wife's council and made a tentative decision on that basis.

This judge is notorious for ruling on opinion and emotion and not on fact and yes, I never knew there was such bias and contempt for men in the family court.

For those of you who make stupid statements such as, "Serves you right, wear a condom", you really don't know a goddamn thing about people who were married and in love at one time.

In my case, when I left my marriage, I gave my ex $85k IN CASH from investments I made instead of buying a home at the peak of the housing market like she wanted (late 2005).

I was already paying $500/child support for our son.

I agreed to let her have him as a tax right off at that time because he was only 3 and she being a school teacher had a more liberal and generous lifestyle in terms of time and therefore, I wanted my son to have a semblance of a normal life.

Add to this, I only have a high school education while she now has her Masters (some of which I contributed to while we were married and I worked), has since remarried, with him making over $125k/year himself, as well as them owning two homes, the second an income property, and he gets a company car.

I am in my son's life, active and more. He cries ALL of the time because he doesn't get to see me enough and sadly, I've switched careers (out of IT because of the downturn) since then and started two new businesses which have allowed me to see him more these past 5 years (he's almost 11). Do you think she would allow it? No. Do you think she ran to get a lawyer and try to stick me with the bill each time? Yes. Do you think she's making it difficult because she's an angry, hurt person? Absolutely.

Here's the thing though.

I'm representing myself pro se and on top of that, there has been SO much lack of consideration and cooperation from the court system that yes, I have documented everything (including ordering the appropriate transcripts). However, I've also made it a point to know and understand the law.

As such, it's the difference for knowing your rights, what the rules of the court are and when and where they are screwing you. That includes if they threaten with a bench warrant when they HAVE to give you an ability to pay hearing. And even with that, when I had a Hearing Officer try to enforce an order because it was still pending a reconsideration, this Hearing Officer (a woman) sat there and berated me, referring to my age and my being a male, so that I would some how be intimidated or embarrassed by her remarks?

Hey lady... I hate to tell you this, but I'm not moved by your feminist, sexist attitude and the fact that my own grandfather was a true deadbeat, HE being the one who left a family of SIX CHILDREN and then, selling the deed out from under them.

Guess what? I didn't do this and I am SO in my son's life and this is what my ex hates most. She would rather it be her, her new husband and our son, so she can have her fairy tale life, with all of the reality shows she can muster.

Thankfully, our son is smarter than that, aware and always has been. He asks deep questions, knows the system is a sham, is in touch with his inner spirit and when I ask, "What is the most important thing in life?" he replies, "To learn how to love and to help others to do the same."

Yeah, whatever happens, happens tomorrow, but as it stands, I'm not going in meek or quiet but will be sure to give the court quite an earful of law and a motion to dismiss as a result.

Prayers accepted from those who believe and know the powers of such things.
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Men !!!

DON'T GET MARRIED

DON'T GET MARRIED

DON'T GET MARRIED

DON'T GET MARRIED

DON'T GET MARRIED

DON'T GET MARRIED

Y O U are the one gettin fvcked
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Just be there for your kid , write letters, call, instigate meaningful conversations, arrange to meet places, ask them how they REALLY are, pay the bills, take them on holidays, it will pay off one day when they thank you for actually being a dad and become a good adult.

They are your blood/dna.

The worse you are to your kids the more likely they will suffer for it and potentially inflict it on society as adults.

Learn to be adult parent about it.

Everyone knows divorce sucks, but you try to be amicable where you can be.
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less than 2G on an extradition? wtf? I am owed over 12G in back support for an asshole that doesn't pay. He's had a warrant for his arrest for almost 2 years and has yet to get caught. My deadbeat asshole refuses to pay, sounds like this guy actually paid. None the less, it, much like student loans never goes away and always accrues interest. Stories like this piss me off. Makes it like, "oh that poor man" meanwhile there are many single mothers out there struggling to get by knowing they aren't going to bleed a turnip.
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oh you poor thing....
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less than 2G on an extradition? wtf? I am owed over 12G in back support for an asshole that doesn't pay. He's had a warrant for his arrest for almost 2 years and has yet to get caught. My deadbeat asshole refuses to pay, sounds like this guy actually paid. None the less, it, much like student loans never goes away and always accrues interest. Stories like this piss me off. Makes it like, "oh that poor man" meanwhile there are many single mothers out there struggling to get by knowing they aren't going to bleed a turnip.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14977441


Stories like this "piss you off" because you know the game is nearly up. Wasn't this "deadbeat asshole" the same asshole who you let pump you full of cum, the same asshole who you decided to have a child by?

LOL...and you think you have a moral right to demand money from him because of YOUR choices?

Serves you right.

s226
 Quoting: THE MIGHTY PHALLUS SPEAKS 60499582


We were married for 7 years. 5 before kids. He turned to drugs and eventually harder drugs and when all was said and done, he assaulted my mother who is elderly. He is LOST and his children are without a father because of it. Enforcing the support on him was supposed to be a last ditch effort to get him into jail which would lead to a treatment facility but instead her prefers meth houses and God knows what. Having the children was OUR choice and him choosing drugs and walking out on his family was HIS choice.
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And why did he turn to drugs? I have no doubt his side of the story wouldn't paint you as a poor little abandoned wifey, would it now?
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Keep your dicks in your pants, then...
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let me tell you something I found out
about the child support system

all systems may not do this,
but some of them do

you will have to check your own local
system to see if they do this

the system makes money off every child
in it's district, the more support the
judge slaps on the father, the more
the system makes

example:

there is a 30 day delay in the system,
a layover of funds.

If you pay $500 by August 1,
the mother does not get that money
til September 1st. got it ???

During that 31 days, the county system
moves all that money from ALL the fathers
that paid into a slush fund and is floated
on an interest bearing bond that draws interest
to another exchange who temporarily borrows
it for 28 days.

So in essence, if the county moves $1M
into the slush fund, then in 30 days
it gets back $1,030,000 as it bears
them a 3% interest while it is in hock

then the county moves that original $1M
back into the pay fund for mothers and
the county pockets the $30k as profit.

the more children they have in the scheme,
the more money they can make.

so the system is actually making money
off these children

and that is why there is a 30 day layover
of the money you pay and the time the
mother receives her child support

that support earns the county money
during those 30 days

another child support scam
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If he were a real man he'd say come and fucking get me. Or he should go hunt down the individual pushing the charges and bash her face in.

If men got pissed off instead of cowering like bitches all the time you'd see an end to this shit. But men are pussies nowadays so they deserve it.
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Keep your dicks in your pants, then...
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No. Just give them an alias.
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fuck'n her right in the pussy

has consequences
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popcorn
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let me tell you something I found out
about the child support system

all systems may not do this,
but some of them do

you will have to check your own local
system to see if they do this

the system makes money off every child
in it's district, the more support the
judge slaps on the father, the more
the system makes

example:

there is a 30 day delay in the system,
a layover of funds.

If you pay $500 by August 1,
the mother does not get that money
til September 1st. got it ???

During that 31 days, the county system
moves all that money from ALL the fathers
that paid into a slush fund and is floated
on an interest bearing bond that draws interest
to another exchange who temporarily borrows
it for 28 days.

So in essence, if the county moves $1M
into the slush fund, then in 30 days
it gets back $1,030,000 as it bears
them a 3% interest while it is in hock

then the county moves that original $1M
back into the pay fund for mothers and
the county pockets the $30k as profit.

the more children they have in the scheme,
the more money they can make.

so the system is actually making money
off these children

and that is why there is a 30 day layover
of the money you pay and the time the
mother receives her child support

that support earns the county money
during those 30 days

another child support scam
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60872426


now you fathers hire a male attorney
and go back before the judge and use
this info about the system and claim
a waiver of exemption from child support
because ponzi schemes drawing interest
are illegal in every state.

in other words, you paying child support
is illegal because of the ponzi scheme
used with that support money

you're welcome ;)
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less than 2G on an extradition? wtf? I am owed over 12G in back support for an asshole that doesn't pay. He's had a warrant for his arrest for almost 2 years and has yet to get caught. My deadbeat asshole refuses to pay, sounds like this guy actually paid. None the less, it, much like student loans never goes away and always accrues interest. Stories like this piss me off. Makes it like, "oh that poor man" meanwhile there are many single mothers out there struggling to get by knowing they aren't going to bleed a turnip.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14977441


Stories like this "piss you off" because you know the game is nearly up. Wasn't this "deadbeat asshole" the same asshole who you let pump you full of cum, the same asshole who you decided to have a child by?

LOL...and you think you have a moral right to demand money from him because of YOUR choices?

Serves you right.

s226
 Quoting: THE MIGHTY PHALLUS SPEAKS 60499582


We were married for 7 years. 5 before kids. He turned to drugs and eventually harder drugs and when all was said and done, he assaulted my mother who is elderly. He is LOST and his children are without a father because of it. Enforcing the support on him was supposed to be a last ditch effort to get him into jail which would lead to a treatment facility but instead her prefers meth houses and God knows what. Having the children was OUR choice and him choosing drugs and walking out on his family was HIS choice.
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And why did he turn to drugs? I have no doubt his side of the story wouldn't paint you as a poor little abandoned wifey, would it now?
 Quoting: THE MIGHTY PHALLUS SPEAKS 60499582


Probably because he couldn't handle his life with two kids and a "wifey" that was diagnosed with breast cancer in my mid-twenties while I was pregnant with our son. Probably because he found out the man that was passed off as HIS father for 28 years was not his dad, not my fault. Probably because many things. I gave up trying to figure that out years ago. I have children to raise and my health to consider and it's just a bad situation. I'm sorry I commented, truly. I didn't know I was on trial. I too, like the gentleman who posted about his court tomorrow, represented myself in court. Believe me, I regret my choices but there is no turning back the hands of time because now I am a stage 4 breast cancer patient (non-terminal) raising 2 kids hoping not to die before they graduate. A little extra money to contribute to the household would go a long way. I didn't choose any of that, choosing him, yes, I did that. He used to be a good person before the drugs. I do not know why he gave his life over to meth. I am fighting for my life everyday and raising my kids the best I can while he is destroying his life because why? He couldn't handle the stress? fuq that. He bailed in the worst way possible and I am not sorry for divorcing him because of it.
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Better still, why is he still having to pay child support for 2 self-sufficient, college educated kids aged 27 and 28?
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It's money he owes and never paid. It goes to his wife and/or the state for money they had to spend for all of the years he was a deadbeat.
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let me tell you something I found out
about the child support system

all systems may not do this,
but some of them do

you will have to check your own local
system to see if they do this

the system makes money off every child
in it's district, the more support the
judge slaps on the father, the more
the system makes

example:

there is a 30 day delay in the system,
a layover of funds.

If you pay $500 by August 1,
the mother does not get that money
til September 1st. got it ???

During that 31 days, the county system
moves all that money from ALL the fathers
that paid into a slush fund and is floated
on an interest bearing bond that draws interest
to another exchange who temporarily borrows
it for 28 days.

So in essence, if the county moves $1M
into the slush fund, then in 30 days
it gets back $1,030,000 as it bears
them a 3% interest while it is in hock

then the county moves that original $1M
back into the pay fund for mothers and
the county pockets the $30k as profit.

the more children they have in the scheme,
the more money they can make.

so the system is actually making money
off these children

and that is why there is a 30 day layover
of the money you pay and the time the
mother receives her child support

that support earns the county money
during those 30 days

another child support scam
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60872426


now you fathers hire a male attorney
and go back before the judge and use
this info about the system and claim
a waiver of exemption from child support
because ponzi schemes drawing interest
are illegal in every state.

in other words, you paying child support
is illegal because of the ponzi scheme
used with that support money

you're welcome ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60872426

So the taxpayer is supposed to pay for the entire system to enforce and process deadbeat payments?
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Is everybody on this thread fucking retarded or something??

The guys child support debts are ARREARS, dumbasses.

If you don't understand that, let me dumb it down for you.

He's not paying current child support for his grown children. He's paying down the ARREARS that he owed before they turned 18. ARREARS are in the PAST...as in DEBT.

Since when do GLPers support someone who doesn't pay the debts he owes?

He stopped paying his child support at some point and got behind before his kids turned 18.

The law states that no children can collect child support past the age of 18 unless they are still a full time student in high school and I believe some states make you pay if they're going to college and still living at home.

Don't get me wrong, the child support system in this country are fucking Nazis but if you owe, you owe for LIFE until it's paid. Whether they're 18 or 98. It's a criminal charge that has no statute of limitations.

Pay the fucking debt.
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So the taxpayer is supposed to pay for the entire system to enforce and process deadbeat payments?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59984176


this is why you pay taxes to the county
for the county gov to operate

the county gov ran just fine off taxes
before child support was invented

and it can run just fine without it

once child support becomes a for-profit
organization then it ceases to be a valid
system of gov, it becomes a ponzi scheme
against both parents

it uses the mother and the children as pawns
to illegally fleece the father

what do women think of that ??
having their own children being used
so the county can get rich off them ??

they should be outraged, just as the fathers are
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Do you believe this?

Just ANOTHER reason why men should never get married and have children.

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Washington man to be extradited after failure to pay child support on two adults

"The Commonwealth of Virginia is attempting to extradite Gregory P. Patnude (52), an Auburn, Washington man over $1836.00 dollars in child support arrears. Patnude, whose children are now 27 and 28 years old has been charged in Virginia with two misdemeanor counts of “Contempt of Court”. Both of his children have college degrees, are self-supporting, and neither lives in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Mr. Patnude has offered to pay the amount due yet the Virginia DSCE and Family Court are insisting on extraditing him to Virginia where he could spend 12 months in jail for the contempt charges which stem from an underlying charge of “Failure to pay support”. The Washington State Division of Child Support is collecting regular payments at $1250 per month from Mr. Patnude’s employer on Virginia’s behalf.

Patnude says “…I am about to be extradited from Washington State to Virginia for $1836 in child support arrears where I could be jailed for 12 months. I have paid over $241,000.00 in support since 1994 and my kids are now 27 and 28."
 Quoting: JLK354



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