What do you all think about homeless people? | |
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The Old Timer User ID: 57010244 United States 07/29/2014 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There for the grace of God go I Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45485322 United States 07/29/2014 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You just don't know what challenges they have faced in their lives, do you? It's so easy to pass judgment when you are physically and mentally healthy, had a proper upbringing, were able to get a good education and training for a job which you were able to keep throughout the economic downturn. I've worked with people who have faced challenges and sometimes they were of their own creation (drug and alcohol abuse) but often people just have an entire hand of bad cards dealt to them at once. Sometimes they get into drug and alcohol abuse because they have undiagnosed ADHD or bi-polar and the substance takes the edge off but then it quickly spirals out of hand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60109538 United States 07/29/2014 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, because it's sooooo easy to just "get a job". There are college graduates with fucking degrees that can't get a job. Are you going to hire a homeless person? Unless you're handing out jobs this week to the homeless... There are lots of jobs out there right now but most of them pay squat. I recently had to quit my teaching job in order to move across the country with my husband due to his promotion. I have a business degree and experience but that experience was years ago. Still, I tried to find an office job as I wanted a break from teaching for awhile. I couldn't find anything which paid even close to what I was making as a teacher and only got a week for vacation and a couple of holidays off. So finally, I signed a contract to teach for next year (right at $50K). I applied to several jobs and had several offers for office work, retail, and for teaching so the jobs are there. They just aren't high-paying. And $50K might sound OK but remember I have years of experience and a Master's degree. My husband makes three times that with a BS degree (although he has many years of experience at his company). Retail was the worst - they pay only like $9 here. By the time you take away half for taxes (all my wages are taxed at my husband's highest rate), SS and any other deductions plus take away for gas and I would be taking home only $4 per hour! I mean...they want you to work six hour shifts (no 8 hour days in retail) and I would bring home $24. OMG, that doesn't even pay for my husband and I to go to a movie for f's sake! Who the heck can live on that kind of money? I am a definite proponent of raising the minimum wage to more like $12 per hour. The jobs are there, but many people think they are "too good" for them. First... I know, I cherry picked this out of that entire huge block you wrote. But it's because I hear this all the time, and it's simply not true. People do not think they are "too good" for whatever jobs are out there. There simply aren't enough to go around. A $10 dollar an hour job opens up somewhere, and a thousand people apply for it. Now then, getting back to the homeless. They have NO CHANCE of getting that job. Not only do they have to compete with the hoard of other applicants, but they are not prepared to. A job requires stability. Stability means, a phone, transportation, an address, a bank account, decent work clothes, etc... and when you have $5 bucks to your name, and you are bathing in a gas station restroom.... how the hell are you supposed to not only GET the job... but KEEP the job? After the IRS and healthcare gets done raping you, you literally have a few bucks left to MAYBE get something to eat. There's no money to pay rent, car payment, car insurance, water, electric, etc. There just isn't. A tiny studio or one bedroom in the Bay Area costs like $1600 bucks! No one is sitting around while starving, thinking, "I'm too fucking good to do that work. That shit is beneath me." No. It's not possible to get the job in the first place, and it's not financially feasible to maintain it even if you could get it. The system is FUCKED. We are all hanging by a fucking thread. Nearly all of us are quite literally a few paychecks away from pushing a shopping cart and eating squirrel in the park. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 07/29/2014 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Around here, they are entitlement minded bullies who think everybody owes them. Quoting: Sikhed That; and crazies, meth addicts, and alcoholics. I haven't encountered any homeless who are genuinely "down on their luck" with bad circumstances. that's because you don't know they are homeless since they are clean and don't panhandle |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 07/29/2014 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think people choose to become homeless. You know, it's a but for the grace of God there go I kind of thing. Sometimes, bad things happen to people and they can't cope and check out or for some reason can't keep up with the demands of normal society - job loss, spousal or parental abuse, drug and alcohol abuse, mental illness, post-traumatic stress, low-intelligence, physical illness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45485322 and some are trying to avoid the "mark of the beast" not kidding |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 07/29/2014 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly, I feel more empathy for the homeless than I do for the Welfare/Foodstamp/disability crew. The former is trying to survive on their own. The latter often could take care of themselves but choose to mooch off the government instead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45485322 the people you mentioned are usually the ones who abuse homeless people |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 07/29/2014 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sorry to say that most are rejects and for good reason. Addiction that has consumed them. The ones I meet, and I talk to them, are stoned and take whatever is available. Their broken spirits have left them with disagreeable personalities. Plus, they steal. The sober people tend to be taken in by someone. Homeless persons, 99%, have burned bridges. These are street people, sleeping behind buildings in industrial part of town. Quoting: BunnySwanson you only meet the ones that your stereotypes will allow you to see |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60898815 Canada 07/29/2014 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was homeless 9 years ago for 22 weeks. Here is what happened. I ran my own business from my home where I was fully paid up on rent. Then my home (a duplex) was sold to a new landlord who "worked" for the Government. To make some easy cash, he let out the front apartment to a bunch of crack dealers. THe thug they posted 24/7 outside their apartment strode up to me and told me to "Get out". I refused. Over the next 8 weeks, I suffered 7 major burgularies. They took everything, even my fridge, half a bag of cat food, etc.. After calling 911, the local Police turned up 6 WEEKS LATER. They said that it was my fault for living in a bad neighbourhood and ordered me to move out at once to keep the peace. It was the end of the lease so the landlord made it clear that if everything was not out by midnight, he would charge another months rent. When I sent a towtruck to get my reserve car, his friend the drugdealers physically stopped him from removing the car. I had to get the Police to turn up to escort the towtruck guy to get my secondary car off site, just minutes before the deadline. WIth my business crippled by loss by burgulary and loss of home, my parents sent a big chunk of cash for a new apartment's two months ahead of rent and a security deposit. But when I went to move in in the first day, all the locks had been changed and the new landlords refused to refund nor grant me the apartment despite a lease. And to make the point, all the bathroom fittings had been thrown on the street. (NOTE: Two years later I slaughtered them in court for $2000 and when they did not pay up, I sent in bailiffs who seize large amounts of their belongings at their home) Now homeless and broke, I was reduced to sleeping in my car, so for fun the Police came around and issued me with notice declaring my car an unroadworthy wreck and requiring it to be sent to the scrapyard. Fortunately I was able to fight this on the ground that my company not me owned it making their notice invalid. Worse, I did not qualify for the foodbank as I am not a Canadian, but a British citizen. Likewise, when I was accepted as an immigrant to Quebec, I signed away all rights to welfare. Each day I had to stay one step ahead of the two cops who wanted to send my car to the scrapyard for fun, so I had to drive it from one car park o another every few hours consuming whatever little cash I had. During one particular two week period, I survived on two bananas, a tiny apple, some juice I got for free for turning up at a Municipal Waste Discussion Open Forum Session and an endless supply of coffee from the TD Bank where it is free to customers...so I checked my balance about 5 times a day to stay alive. To earn cash for gas and food, I had to work picking up cans in the street for 16 hours plus a day and spent a few hours a week writing a film script for some cash which was finally optioned (even though it was never actually made) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60898815 Canada 07/29/2014 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>> they need to stop bummin around and go get jobs<<<< THis is DISGUSTING BUNK. Just because people are homeless does nto mean that they are jobless nor that they are claiming welfare. I had a job, and did not claim welfare when I was stranded for 22 weeks homeless. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56144605 United States 07/29/2014 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was homeless 9 years ago for 22 weeks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60898815 Here is what happened. I ran my own business from my home where I was fully paid up on rent. Then my home (a duplex) was sold to a new landlord who "worked" for the Government. To make some easy cash, he let out the front apartment to a bunch of crack dealers. THe thug they posted 24/7 outside their apartment strode up to me and told me to "Get out". I refused. Over the next 8 weeks, I suffered 7 major burgularies. They took everything, even my fridge, half a bag of cat food, etc.. After calling 911, the local Police turned up 6 WEEKS LATER. They said that it was my fault for living in a bad neighbourhood and ordered me to move out at once to keep the peace. It was the end of the lease so the landlord made it clear that if everything was not out by midnight, he would charge another months rent. When I sent a towtruck to get my reserve car, his friend the drugdealers physically stopped him from removing the car. I had to get the Police to turn up to escort the towtruck guy to get my secondary car off site, just minutes before the deadline. WIth my business crippled by loss by burgulary and loss of home, my parents sent a big chunk of cash for a new apartment's two months ahead of rent and a security deposit. But when I went to move in in the first day, all the locks had been changed and the new landlords refused to refund nor grant me the apartment despite a lease. And to make the point, all the bathroom fittings had been thrown on the street. (NOTE: Two years later I slaughtered them in court for $2000 and when they did not pay up, I sent in bailiffs who seize large amounts of their belongings at their home) Now homeless and broke, I was reduced to sleeping in my car, so for fun the Police came around and issued me with notice declaring my car an unroadworthy wreck and requiring it to be sent to the scrapyard. Fortunately I was able to fight this on the ground that my company not me owned it making their notice invalid. Worse, I did not qualify for the foodbank as I am not a Canadian, but a British citizen. Likewise, when I was accepted as an immigrant to Quebec, I signed away all rights to welfare. Each day I had to stay one step ahead of the two cops who wanted to send my car to the scrapyard for fun, so I had to drive it from one car park o another every few hours consuming whatever little cash I had. During one particular two week period, I survived on two bananas, a tiny apple, some juice I got for free for turning up at a Municipal Waste Discussion Open Forum Session and an endless supply of coffee from the TD Bank where it is free to customers...so I checked my balance about 5 times a day to stay alive. To earn cash for gas and food, I had to work picking up cans in the street for 16 hours plus a day and spent a few hours a week writing a film script for some cash which was finally optioned (even though it was never actually made) sounds like you were targeted to be harassed |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60893892 United States 07/29/2014 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>>The homeless around here think they're entitled to your money or smokes because you have it and they don't. >>>> Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60898815 THe homeless around WHERE exactly??? Dontcha just love how by calling people "homeless", the defacto stance is that we, the entitled, (yes idiot, houses have titles, literally), are saying the homeless are failing at entitlement? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60109538 United States 07/29/2014 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think most people reading this site will soon get to experience homelessness. As the tribulation plays out very, very few will be protected worldwide, so watch your' elitist attitudes. Quoting: anonymous 60168501 I've "experienced" it twice. And I came back from it... fully.... twice. I'm a survivor. I do what it takes at any given moment in time to ensure my survival. When the apocalypse SHTF comes and the world is burning down around us, I will be standing on a pile of skulls, gnawing on a leg bone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60898815 Canada 07/29/2014 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>>Dontcha just love how by calling people "homeless", the defacto stance is that we, the entitled, (yes idiot, houses have titles, literally), are saying the homeless are failing at entitlement?<<<< More ignorant bunk. For your information, since selling the option on my screenplay and via other corrmercail activities, I have actually been steadily buying up property in Detroit, a city in your bankrupt nation and in the Yukon ALL OF WHICH ARE MORTGAGE-FREE. So don't give me your shit about how I've failed at getting "entitled". Furthermore, I WAS ENTITLED.. ... to live without 8 burgularies in 7 weeks that closed my previously profitable business for 22 weeks. ... to expect the Police to turn up in UNDER 6 WEEKS on a 911 call ... to expect the Police NOT to take bribes from the drugdealers next door. ... to the apartment I paid over a $1000 for that I was locked out of before even moving in ...and the court agreed with me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60893892 United States 07/29/2014 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>>>Dontcha just love how by calling people "homeless", the defacto stance is that we, the entitled, (yes idiot, houses have titles, literally), are saying the homeless are failing at entitlement?<<<< Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60898815 More ignorant bunk. For your information, since selling the option on my screenplay and via other corrmercail activities, I have actually been steadily buying up property in Detroit, a city in your bankrupt nation and in the Yukon ALL OF WHICH ARE MORTGAGE-FREE. So don't give me your shit about how I've failed at getting "entitled". Furthermore, I WAS ENTITLED.. ... to live without 8 burgularies in 7 weeks that closed my previously profitable business for 22 weeks. ... to expect the Police to turn up in UNDER 6 WEEKS on a 911 call ... to expect the Police NOT to take bribes from the drugdealers next door. ... to the apartment I paid over a $1000 for that I was locked out of before even moving in ...and the court agreed with me. What do mortgages have to do with anything. Perhaps you should go find the definition of the word 'entitlement'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60893892 United States 07/29/2014 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noun 1. entitlement - right granted by law or contract (especially a right to benefits)entitlement - right granted by law or contract (especially a right to benefits); "entitlements make up the major part of the federal budget" claim, title - an established or recognized right; "a strong legal claim to the property"; "he had no documents confirming his title to his father's estate"; "he staked his claim" |
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