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NASA validates "WTF - Impossible" space drive. Interesting...UPDATED - 8/14/2017 | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 59848163  United States07/31/2014 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this a game changer for satellites and space travel? Quoting: Setheory [link to www.wired.co.uk] "Test results indicate that the RF resonant cavity thruster design, which is unique as an electric propulsion device, is producing a force that is not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon and therefore is potentially demonstrating an interaction with the quantum vacuum virtual plasma." Will wonders never cease. The Chinese INVENTED something....rather than STEAL IT like they always do. Whoda' thought.  Well actually, the inventor is British. OK....so the Chinese are par for the course then. Figures. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org] Retard |
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Setheory (OP) User ID: 58257844 United States07/31/2014 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No moon landing check Quoting: truthbenow 51554110 No space station check No satelites check No round earth but flat check No planets check No earth rotation check No mars landing of course check All of us have been lied to Checkmate!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only problem is that you can verify many of those truths yourself if you are motivated. You don't need to be dependent on anyone to tell you they are real. The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50287210 United States07/31/2014 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting, it's just like a carrot in the end of a stick. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4196410 Apparently they must have been utilizing such technology atleast 70 years ago to account for modern eyewitness UFO accounts. No harm, no foul.. Depends on what you call 'harm.' Potentially, there may have been great harm. I hope not, but...maybe all is forgiven. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States07/31/2014 09:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me know what you find, I'm going to ask former astronaut Tom Jones if he knows anything about this this weekend. Quoting: Dr. Astro He told me to tell you that "it's not unsual": [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]   |
| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States07/31/2014 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, but we are talking about solar system exploration without needing to spend propellant to make it go (once it's in orbit). That changes things dramatically. Right now virtually all space travel (with the exception of some preliminary solar sail tests) is done on the principle of shooting particles out the back of the spacecraft at high speeds, whether propelled by chemical reaction (low efficiency high thrust) or electromagnetically accelerated ionized gas (high efficiency low thrust). That means you have to spend fuel to accelerate the fuel you're carrying with you. This creates a nasty feedback loop. This thruster would change all that since it doesn't use propellant, it just needs electricity which it can get "for free" from the sun. The low thrust of the first generation design means it will only be useful once you're in orbit, but once there you can slowly accelerate persistently. Quoting: Dr. Astro I can't think of why this wouldn't be compatible with RTGs. Can you? Certainly I think it would, but there's always political opposition to launching RTGs and the plutonium supply is not unlimited. If you find any additional info that relates to this story, please post it here. Thanks! Oh, and let me know if your astronaut friend happens to be familiar with this. FYI, the paper was just published a couple days ago. Yeah, he's more asteroids and planetary sciences, but if this is making enough waves he might hear about it. Then again, he might not. I'll try to see if I can film whatever he says. |
| gmigriff User ID: 57012273 United States07/31/2014 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea that we might potentially be traveling the solar system via technology we don’t fully understand is actually a pretty cool thought. I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. Last Edited by gmigriff on 07/31/2014 10:14 PM |
| gmigriff User ID: 57012273 United States07/31/2014 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea that we might potentially be traveling the solar system via technology we don’t fully understand is actually a pretty cool thought. I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. Pointless theoretical masturbation for all to see. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61002727 United States07/31/2014 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody will require this "new knowledge" soon enough now as we will be within an alternate dimension with the onset of the Millennium Age no longer existing in mortal flesh bodies will alter things in that particular regard considerably I expect lol besides, by that point all will have their memories of the first earth Age back and will no longer be confounded by anything neath the Son as they are at present tense... for they were ordained to be "born innocent" of all such herein it won't be necessary any longer following the 7th Trumpet hence their full mental capacity and latent memory will come flooding back when they are changed from flesh bodies back into their original spiritual bodies at the Second Advent in other words mankind is "handicapped" in many regards accordingly at present tense but then you knew that I imagine, eh? |
| Setheory (OP) User ID: 53317618 United States07/31/2014 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea that we might potentially be traveling the solar system via technology we don’t fully understand is actually a pretty cool thought. I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. We need only look to the medical field (where lives ARE certainly at risk) for examples of treatments which prove beneficial for reasons that we don't fully understand. Nevertheless they are utilized. Sorry, but I base my beliefs on empirical data and rational thought. In this case, the observed phenomenon seems perplexing and has what seems to be solid science to support its validity. Hey, that is exciting in my book. Chemtrails on the other hand……….not so much. Last Edited by Setheory on 07/31/2014 10:57 PM The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
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| Setheory (OP) User ID: 53317618 United States07/31/2014 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well maybe they will eventually create a Youtube video about this subject complete with cool music, wild speculation and incoherent rants. Until then, you will just have to bitch. Of course you could actually read the papers, but that would require effort. Last Edited by Setheory on 07/31/2014 11:07 PM The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
| Setheory (OP) User ID: 53317618 United States07/31/2014 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody will require this "new knowledge" soon enough now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61002727 as we will be within an alternate dimension with the onset of the Millennium Age no longer existing in mortal flesh bodies will alter things in that particular regard considerably I expect lol besides, by that point all will have their memories of the first earth Age back and will no longer be confounded by anything neath the Son as they are at present tense... for they were ordained to be "born innocent" of all such herein it won't be necessary any longer following the 7th Trumpet hence their full mental capacity and latent memory will come flooding back when they are changed from flesh bodies back into their original spiritual bodies at the Second Advent in other words mankind is "handicapped" in many regards accordingly at present tense but then you knew that I imagine, eh? Ummmmmmm No, that's news to me. The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
| gmigriff User ID: 57012273 United States07/31/2014 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea that we might potentially be traveling the solar system via technology we don’t fully understand is actually a pretty cool thought. I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. We need only look to the medical field (where lives ARE certainly at risk) for examples of treatments which prove beneficial for reasons that we don't fully understand. Nevertheless they are utilized. Sorry, but I base my beliefs on empirical data and rational thought. In this case, the observed phenomenon seems perplexing and has what seems to be solid science to support its validity. Hey, that is exciting in my book. Chemtrails on the other hand……….not so much. Whatever, man. i just find it telling that you're so ready to accept this method of space travel, despite the severe lack of research and facts to back it up. But on the other hand, you're sure enough that chemtrails are impossible, and can be so easily explained that you would still throw the words stupid and ignorant around, at everyone who disagrees. And your approach, is futile, as applied to noobs, those that first come here researching what they've honestly seen with their own eyes, and yet cannot,explain. You're working against yourself, but that figures... George B should be your model. He's obviously human, unlike you and your cohorts. Take a lesson from George B. Last Edited by gmigriff on 07/31/2014 11:24 PM |
| gmigriff User ID: 57012273 United States07/31/2014 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea that we might potentially be traveling the solar system via technology we don’t fully understand is actually a pretty cool thought. I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. We need only look to the medical field (where lives ARE certainly at risk) for examples of treatments which prove beneficial for reasons that we don't fully understand. Nevertheless they are utilized. Sorry, but I base my beliefs on empirical data and rational thought. In this case, the observed phenomenon seems perplexing and has what seems to be solid science to support its validity. Hey, that is exciting in my book. Chemtrails on the other hand……….not so much. That's the most stupid comparison i could imagine in this context. Last-chance, hail-mary medical procedures, compared to esoteric, highly-theoretical space travel, have nothing in common in my discussion. I'm merely saying that it is interesting that you would whole-heartedly entertain fantasy-based space travel, with but one lone link as support, but would in the same day vehemently deny the possibility that some form of "spraying" campaign is real and ongoing for all unbrainwashed to see.. Double standard much? |
| Setheory (OP) User ID: 53317618 United States07/31/2014 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Setheory The idea that we might potentially be traveling the solar system via technology we don’t fully understand is actually a pretty cool thought. I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. We need only look to the medical field (where lives ARE certainly at risk) for examples of treatments which prove beneficial for reasons that we don't fully understand. Nevertheless they are utilized. Sorry, but I base my beliefs on empirical data and rational thought. In this case, the observed phenomenon seems perplexing and has what seems to be solid science to support its validity. Hey, that is exciting in my book. Chemtrails on the other hand……….not so much. Whatever, man. i just find it telling that you're so ready to accept this method of space travel, despite the severe lack of research and facts to back it up. But on the other hand, you're sure enough that chemtrails are impossible, and can be so easily explained that you would still throw the words stupid and ignorant around, at everyone who disagrees. And your approach, is futile, as applied to noobs, those that first come here researching what they've honestly seen with their own eyes, and yet cannot,explain. You're working against yourself, but that figures... George B should be your model. He's obviously human, unlike you and your cohorts. Take a lesson from George B. Calling people “ignorant” and “stupid” is not my style and chances are you know that. Of course I could ask you to provide examples of said behavior, but we both know how that would end for you don’t we? Funny thing is that the evidence “currently” seems to support the idea that this is a real phenomenon. That is why it is so interesting. This might change at some point in the future and if it does, I will adjust my opinions regarding this subject. It seems we differ in this regard. Sorry, don't know who George B. is but I can only hope you aren't refering to our past president. Nothing would shock me however. Last Edited by Setheory on 07/31/2014 11:56 PM The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
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| Setheory (OP) User ID: 53317618 United States07/31/2014 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm merely saying that it is interesting that you would whole-heartedly entertain fantasy-based space travel, with but one lone link as support, but would in the same day vehemently deny the possibility that some form of "spraying" campaign is real and ongoing for all unbrainwashed to see.. Double standard much? Quoting: gmigriff Seriously? Did you even read this thread and the papers? There are multiple studies all showing the same phenomenon/effect. That is what makes it so interesting. You are embarrassing yourself….. The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
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| gmigriff User ID: 57012273 United States08/01/2014 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: gmigriff I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. We need only look to the medical field (where lives ARE certainly at risk) for examples of treatments which prove beneficial for reasons that we don't fully understand. Nevertheless they are utilized. Sorry, but I base my beliefs on empirical data and rational thought. In this case, the observed phenomenon seems perplexing and has what seems to be solid science to support its validity. Hey, that is exciting in my book. Chemtrails on the other hand……….not so much. Whatever, man. i just find it telling that you're so ready to accept this method of space travel, despite the severe lack of research and facts to back it up. But on the other hand, you're sure enough that chemtrails are impossible, and can be so easily explained that you would still throw the words stupid and ignorant around, at everyone who disagrees. And your approach, is futile, as applied to noobs, those that first come here researching what they've honestly seen with their own eyes, and yet cannot,explain. You're working against yourself, but that figures... George B should be your model. He's obviously human, unlike you and your cohorts. Take a lesson from George B. Calling people “ignorant” and “stupid” is not my style and chances are you know that. Of course I could ask you to provide examples of said behavior, but we both know how that would end for you don’t we. Funny thing is that the evidence “currently” seems to support the idea that this is a real phenomenon. That is why it is so interesting. This might change at some point in the future and if it does, I will adjust my opinions regarding this subject. It seems we differ in this regard. Soory, don't know who George B. is but I can only hope you aren't refering to our past president. Nothing would shock me however. Sorry, but you have not come across as in any way reasonable before. You seemed to revel in the discouragement of an open minded debate. If I'm mistaken, I will apologize. But for now... What makes you even entertain the possibility that we are not paranoid, and that some unknown program is ongoing? (P.S. Search George B's threads. He's a skeptic and a gentleman with whom i disagree often, but he provides info that you can take or leave, but he never regresses into name-calling.) I try and avoid being needlessly mean, but given the debunking tactics one is faced with on this issue, it's not always doable. Honest... |
| Mr. D User ID: 4603964 United States08/01/2014 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: gmigriff I doubt that "technology we fully don't understand" would be useful in any way, especially in one that would put lives at risk. Sure, "we don't understand it, but send in the human test subjects." It's science doncha know. You realize what you're saying, science hard-on and all? Your credibility on any other subject has gone poof. Fucking chemshill denier, rookie. We need only look to the medical field (where lives ARE certainly at risk) for examples of treatments which prove beneficial for reasons that we don't fully understand. Nevertheless they are utilized. Sorry, but I base my beliefs on empirical data and rational thought. In this case, the observed phenomenon seems perplexing and has what seems to be solid science to support its validity. Hey, that is exciting in my book. Chemtrails on the other hand……….not so much. Whatever, man. i just find it telling that you're so ready to accept this method of space travel, despite the severe lack of research and facts to back it up. But on the other hand, you're sure enough that chemtrails are impossible, and can be so easily explained that you would still throw the words stupid and ignorant around, at everyone who disagrees. And your approach, is futile, as applied to noobs, those that first come here researching what they've honestly seen with their own eyes, and yet cannot,explain. You're working against yourself, but that figures... George B should be your model. He's obviously human, unlike you and your cohorts. Take a lesson from George B. Calling people “ignorant” and “stupid” is not my style and chances are you know that. Of course I could ask you to provide examples of said behavior, but we both know how that would end for you don’t we. Funny thing is that the evidence “currently” seems to support the idea that this is a real phenomenon. That is why it is so interesting. This might change at some point in the future and if it does, I will adjust my opinions regarding this subject. It seems we differ in this regard. Soory, don't know who George B. is but I can only hope you aren't refering to our past president. Nothing would shock me however. Different subject, I usually do not resort to calling people stupid however there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is when someone doesn't know, stupidity is when someone knows better but does it anyway. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 60173755  Canada08/01/2014 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's stinky but after perusing the story I remembered something about outerspace aside from all the random effects going on from matter light and all that other cause and effect crap that outer space as the emptiness between bodies of matter or mass or whatever the crap-not-all is not actually devoid of it's own properties as in being an actual completely voided nothingness to begin with maybe they just haven't completely understood what it is maybe it is accessible with quantum garbage but that physics shits for fags that need an easy way out but im all for screwing with Gods plan if it means most people can leave, and the sooner the better. go screw themselves up someplace private and leave me out of it |
| gmigriff User ID: 57012273 United States08/01/2014 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm merely saying that it is interesting that you would whole-heartedly entertain fantasy-based space travel, with but one lone link as support, but would in the same day vehemently deny the possibility that some form of "spraying" campaign is real and ongoing for all unbrainwashed to see.. Double standard much? Quoting: gmigriff Seriously? Did you even read this thread and the papers? There are multiple studies all showing the same phenomenon/effect. That is what makes it so interesting. You are embarrassing yourself….. Hardly... You embrace esoteric studies on one hand, and dance around "debunking" peoples' honest observations on the other. So I assume you're in line for the first test flight of your partially-understood method of space travel? You're making an open-minded leap with regards to that, and yet you're sure there are no alternative explanations for the newly-classified "persistent chemtrails" that regularly cover entire states in an artificial haze? Rock on, my empirical brother. Last Edited by gmigriff on 08/01/2014 12:14 AM |
| Setheory (OP) User ID: 53317618 United States08/01/2014 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but you have not come across as in any way reasonable before. You seemed to revel in the discouragement of an open minded debate. If I'm mistaken, I will apologize. But for now... What makes you even entertain the possibility that we are not paranoid, and that some unknown program is ongoing? Quoting: gmigriff The available evidence is what I base my beliefs on……no matter who it angers. And yes, you are in error about me. I encourage you and others to take a quick look at my posts and then yours with the idea of name calling in mind. Again, we both know how that ends for you and no, I don’t think you will apologize after the inevitable conclusion is reached. Last Edited by Setheory on 08/01/2014 12:22 AM The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
| Setheory (OP) User ID: 53317618 United States08/01/2014 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm merely saying that it is interesting that you would whole-heartedly entertain fantasy-based space travel, with but one lone link as support, but would in the same day vehemently deny the possibility that some form of "spraying" campaign is real and ongoing for all unbrainwashed to see.. Double standard much? Quoting: gmigriff Seriously? Did you even read this thread and the papers? There are multiple studies all showing the same phenomenon/effect. That is what makes it so interesting. You are embarrassing yourself….. Hardly... Hardly? Is this the point where I ask you if you want me to post a couple and then you say yes and then I do and then you change the subject? Please let me know if you would like to proceed with the scenario above. The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' |
| gmigriff User ID: 57012273 United States08/01/2014 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but you have not come across as in any way reasonable before. You seemed to revel in the discouragement of an open minded debate. If I'm mistaken, I will apologize. But for now... What makes you even entertain the possibility that we are not paranoid, and that some unknown program is ongoing? Quoting: gmigriff The available evidence is what I base my beliefs on……no matter who it angers. And yes, you are in error about me. I encourage you and others to take a quick look at my posts and then yours with the idea of name calling in mind. Again, we both know how that ends and no, I don’t think you will apologize after the inevitable conclusion is reached. Wait, you're really pulling that card? You've been a gentleman the whole time? Ha! Please,answer the question above. What makes you unsure that it is impossible,that there is a spraying campaign ongoing? C'mon, you just alluded to your doubt. Go on. |
