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***** ISRAEL CROSSES THE LINE 'And You Read It Here First' by Justin Raimondo *****

 
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"Years of relentless propaganda, countless smear campaigns, and a prodigious expenditure of money and human resources led us to this moment: the War Party is launching what amounts to its final offensive, an all-out attack on whatever bastions of human decency and common sense remain in this hideously war-crazed post-9/11 world."


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July 14, 2006


Israel Crosses the Line

And you read it here first…


by Justin Raimondo


The Israeli offensive against Iran – until now, purely polemical – morphed into military action the moment the IDF crossed the border into Lebanon and took on Hezbollah. As our regular readers know, this turn of events was predicted in this space three months ago:

"War with Iran will probably not begin with a frontal assault by the U.S. and/or Israel on Iran's alleged nuclear weapons facilities, or even a skirmish along the Iraq-Iran border. Look to Lebanon and Syria for the first battlegrounds of this developing regional war. The Israelis know perfectly well that Iran's nuclear ambitions, if they ever materialize, are not an immediate threat: their real concern is their volatile northern border, where their deadly enemies – Hezbollah – are an effective obstacle to Israeli influence. The Israelis are also looking to exploit growing opportunities to make trouble in Syria, where the restive Kurds are their reliable allies, and the brittleness of the Ba'athist dictatorship is an invitation to regime change."

The suggestion, by Professors John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, in their now famous "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy," that the Iraq war was fought for Israel's sake, and against our own interests in the region, was received in many quarters with outright horror, and not only from the Amen Corner. Noam Chomsky and Stephen Zunes both objected to this thesis of an Israel-centric foreign policy: Israel, they insist, is the "junior partner" of the American hegemon, and is only acting at the behest and under the de facto control of its masters in Washington.

The war's aftermath, however, tells a different story. Examined in light of Israel's postwar actions – the unilateral "withdrawal" from Gaza, the absorption of more territory and the building of more settlements on the West Bank, the war against Hamas, and now the re-invasion of Lebanon – the chief (and only) beneficiary of the new regional balance of power is clear enough. The American invasion and occupation of the Mesopotamian heartland has empowered the Israelis as never before – and now they are on the offensive, carving out a greatly expanded sphere of influence extending into Kurdistan as well as Lebanon, bringing closer to fulfillment the old Zionist vision of an empire stretching "from the Nile to the Euphrates."

The U.S., on the other hand, has considerably reduced leverage in the region. Our troops in Iraq are exposed, vulnerable to the Iranians – and stalemated by the Iraqi insurgency, which shows troubling signs of extending into Shi'ite areas. As the Israelis advance, with American support, Sunni and Shi'ite factions in Iraq – including those in the governing Shi'ite coalition – are radicalized, and turn their fire on the Americans.

Yet the U.S. is still shilling for the Israelis, blaming Syria and Iran for acts that occurred well outside the purview of the mullahs and the increasingly isolated regime of Bashar al-Assad. Meanwhile, in the UN, we are bringing the issue of Iran's nuclear power program to the Security Council, pressing for a confrontation that can only end in $200-per-barrel oil.

In 1996, a group of pro-Israeli Americans – including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser – prepared a policy statement for then-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that proposed a strategy of regime change as the only solution for Israel's growing encirclement and isolation. The main problem, they averred in "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," was Syria, and the troublesome border with Lebanon:

"Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon."

But this could occur only if Iraq was taken out first:

"Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria's regional ambitions."

With Saddam out of the way, the second phase of the "Clean Break" scenario is unfolding before our eyes. And the propaganda war is going just as well as the military aspect of the campaign: the Israelis are no fools. They realize they can't proceed without the tacit complicity of the U.S. and the Europeans, who must be made to look the other way as the IDF commits war crimes on the ground. Under the pretext of avenging the "kidnapping" of one of their soldiers – and, more recently, two more – they have unleashed a military assault planned well in advance of the allegedly precipitating incidents.


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7/13/2006

GRUESOME SCENES AFTER ISRAELI AIR RAIDS ON SOUTH LEBANON: 'A baby was sliced into three and body parts hung from olive trees'

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I'm not sideing with countries but I have something to say, of course.


For years I've seen people on this thread take shots of Israel being a puppet master. People saying things like they need to fight their own battles etc. Now they are, people are like "omg I cant believe they are....".


Would USA retaliate if Mexico/Canada lobbed missles/mortars at USA?

Would Russia retaliate if Chech's attacked?

For years this has been happening over there. There was a peace treaty and israel was withdrawing from Gaza/West bank. During that time what happen? (yes, I know, but I'm testing)
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"on this board" not thread, sorry.
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last night i read a encyclopedia type description of world war two. but i read it backwards...
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I'm not sideing with countries but I have something to say, of course.


For years I've seen people on this thread take shots of Israel being a puppet master. People saying things like they need to fight their own battles etc. Now they are, people are like "omg I cant believe they are....".


Would USA retaliate if Mexico/Canada lobbed missles/mortars at USA?

Would Russia retaliate if Chech's attacked?

For years this has been happening over there. There was a peace treaty and israel was withdrawing from Gaza/West bank. During that time what happen? (yes, I know, but I'm testing)
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I belive they should be doing what they are doing, but i just hate seeing it happening, because i feel that all the wars going on at once, we will end up in a world war. And dont want to see that happen.
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if palestinians blow up bus loads of kids in israel sponsord by iran ,this poster wil probably blame the mossad . lala
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Kill ratio of Palestinians to Israeli's is in the region of 6 to 1...

Israeli's are as much cowards as the muslim bombers when it comes down it, murdering children in and going to school as well as destroying homes and fields by bulldozing them.

Fuck Israel, Hitler was right...
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if palestinians blow up bus loads of kids in israel sponsord by iran ,this poster wil probably blame the mossad . lala
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Thats because Hamas and Hezbollah are funded by Mossad dummy. Please do your homework before you accuse others of being naive.

What do the arabs have to gain from this escalation? The answer is a big fat NADA

What do Israel gain?

1. More land, why don't you have a look at what the map of israel would like if all their territorial claims were granted. Well, it would include most of the west bank, the rest of the Sinai desert as well as huge chunks of Lebanon and Syria

2. Less arabs. Jews in the middle east are outnumbered by arabs by about a million to one. Thats why Israel never pass up a good opporunity to slaughter a few thousand Arabs, they know their position just isn't sustainable in the long term.

3. Elmert can play the tough guy. The new Israeli prime minister was never a popular choice, he capitalised on Sharon's illness to swing the elections. He has long been viewed as a weak politician, never more than Sharon's bag-man. By prosecuting this dirty war he will gain support from the fanatical
right-wing settlers who have shunned him
up to this point and will be essential to railroading the token withdrawal from otherwise worthless settlements. The Israelis' need this so they can keep all the best areas leaving the palestinians with desert.
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Your falling for it too.

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Your falling for it too.

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No, you're falling for it too.
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No sir, I realize both sides are being played.


Your falling for it too.

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No, you're falling for it too.
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mossad is sponsoring hezbolla ? you watch to many murder she wrote episodes clown meds
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Thats because Hamas and Hezbollah are funded by Mossad dummy. Please do your homework before you accuse others of being naive.

What do the arabs have to gain from this escalation? The answer is a big fat NADA

What do Israel gain?
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Last time I checked Hamas was cash strapped and they went to Iran, shaked hands with Mad Mehdi-wannabe Ahmadinejad and got a lot of money.

Oh, aint this sweet. If Hamas and Hezbollah attack Israel and dont gain anything fro the attack it's all the hand of Israel. False flag. If they do attack and gain something, like a prisoner swap, they are not funded by Israel but legitimate and righteous resistance organisation.
Ahhh, shut up! lala
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So enlighten us. Where does a poverty stricken group obtain expensive weapons?


mossad is sponsoring hezbolla ? you watch to many murder she wrote episodes clown meds
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iran and yemen and syria . now start doing some homework !
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So it would be better if he was an unintelligent right winger?

I see.



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Listening to, and distributing, Left-wing swill, again, I see. You know, it takes no intelligence at all to relay bio-waste like this; even less to post it. You try to come across as an intelligent person, but when it's all said and done, you are really nothing more than a damned parrot for the Leftists. The *sad* thing is that you don't even seem to realize it.
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SO many are clueless....in the big NWO picture the arabs are being used.

Be that as it may....Islam is not a peaceful religion....as those that are "using" it have planned well.

Would I do what Israel is doing?

DAMNED STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even though it plays into a much darker and frightening plan.
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So it would be better if he was an unintelligent right winger?

I see.



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Listening to, and distributing, Left-wing swill, again, I see. You know, it takes no intelligence at all to relay bio-waste like this; even less to post it. You try to come across as an intelligent person, but when it's all said and done, you are really nothing more than a damned parrot for the Leftists. The *sad* thing is that you don't even seem to realize it.
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No, because they're bad, too. But the Leftists do far more damage.
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It seems many would carry the torch for the people of Israel and that is because they have been programmed for over 50 years to do so. Most do not know what Zionism is about and run to the rescue of the poor Jews without understanding the characteristics of the middle east conflict.

The Mossad is to the state of Israel what
Hezzbula and Hammas are to Lebanon and Palestine. Let me make it more clear for you. A group of Israelis jumping up and down with glee as the twin towers fall.

They are not our friends but then neither
are the ones that invited them into the structure of our society.

They are the enemy within on a global scale
with vicious, and grand ambitions!
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Should he be believed ? The guy obviously can not even count.
If there is another WW its WW 3
O right , I forgot, the us has already fought and won WW3.
Well , us peoples , by the time WW4 starts you will know it is WW3
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again the fascist bmg blames the jews other that his fascist friends of islam
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I do my homework everytime I close my eyes and I don't expect you to believe or buy that.

Where did the presidents of the countries you listed obtain their education and how did their presidential term(s) come about.

iran and yemen and syria . now start doing some homework !
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Analysis from Joseph Erlich

Dear Friends,

It has been a long day for me. It is early morning. I have not been to bed yet but due to world events I sat and reviewed your E-mails. Due to them, I recognized something I missed. So let me adjust the stunning updated analysis as follows.

SenderBerl's long held proffer was that the NWO was behind the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 to mask and hide their own involvement in WWII. As expressed, the intent of the NWO was to ultimately do to the State of Israel what it did to the Berlin Wall, dismantle it. In the meantime, the NWO effectively used Israel to insert themselves in the Middle East. Now, that the shift of the paradigm of power has taken place, recognized by the NWO itself, Israel has become an impediment to the NWO.

The recent events with North Korea were traumatic to the NWO. Thus, as really astutely interpreted, the NWO would move for war and conflict. We were there to detect that Olmert intentionally invoked it via Shalit where the evidence was clear that collaborators within Fatah were working with Israel to create the crisis. Thus lo and behold the media shifts to the incursion from a second front in Lebanon that better masks the true dynamics in play to support what Bush today called the right of Israel to defend itself.

It is apparent to everyone that Olmert is looking for an escalation of the war to the regional scale. We all know and Iran has made it clear that if Olmert baits Syria into battle then Israel will have to also face Iran. You have made the point that under the stunning updated analysis that even if Bush creates the foundation for moral outrage to enter Iran that it is highly probable that China is compelled to intervene regardless of the excuse Bush uses to enter and occupy Iran. Moreover, Bush will have entered Iran to actuate the Chinese response.

On further introspection, I have done what I rarely do due to the sourcing of what I normally proffer: amend my analysis. Perhaps due to my being sincerely upset since the Shalit sham to push for war, I was focused on an accurate perception that Iran was the primary target and North Korea the secondary target of the NWO at this point of time. What I neglected to carry in mind is the prime NWO OBJECTIVE regarding Israel: gaining control of Jerusalem as per SenderBerl's advertisement in the Jerusalem Post in 1996.

Thus, the updated analysis continues per the contention that the NWO does not want to engage either NK or China at this point of time. It also continues that the NWO seeks to remove Israel as an impediment in view of the shift of the paradigm of power. What I want to adjust is that when the NWO aids Iran in the attack on Israel once Olmert gives a green light for an attack on Syria that the moral outrage that the NWO wants generated via a success by Iran et al against Israel is to allow it, the NWO, on the element of moral outrage or otherwise, to move in and gain control of Jerusalem!

The egregious mistake for history that Olmert makes is the one long ago covered: should Israel move out to engage in a NWO schematic to militarily engage Iran then Israel's destiny would be hastened. Thus instead of up to a 19 year period to revert to the 1948 status, by involving itself with the NWO against Iran, as Olmert has done with the moment he created the Shalit event, he accelerated the ultimate reality that Israel would confront. Thus, if Olmert continues on and does engage Syria knowing that Iran has to come into the fray, then it is a de facto attack on Iran. Thus, Israel will accelerate its own evisceration and the NWO will for its own agenda advise Iran (through covert intermediaries of course) how to effectively destroy Israel. The destruction of Israel is of course a mainstay Moabite objective and fulfils the 1948 covert NWO agenda for Israel. The NWO has Israel off its back in dealing with the Middle East. The moral outrage generated by the devastating victory by Iran against Israel also gives the NWO the portal to its primary OBJECTIVE regarding Israel: getting control over Jerusalem. Of course, this will prove a central playing card in establishing a new relationship with Middle East/Islamic nations.

Thus under this adjustment, the NWO will not engage either China or North Korea nor enter Iran. Israel is out of the picture as per NWO original designs for it and the NWO gains control over Jerusalem positioning itself well to implement new relationships with Arab/Islamic countries to counter Chinese influence and presence in the Middle East.

Conclusion: The interpretations made connective with North Korea as stated were more difficult than even those regarding Sharon. However, a very prescient interpretation was that the NWO would use the delay in the NK launch to move ahead to start a major conflict to create a war environment that better enabled the NWO to check NK. Then the NWO itself recognized that the NK event post the July 4th launch did represent the formal shift of the paradigm of power. Then the NWO got idiot Olmert to create the conflict via the capture of Shalit which was bungled since the truth of it became apparent and then the NWO media silently ratified a shift to the Lebanese front to allow Bush to today express that Israel had the right to defend itself as to justify what Olmert was doing was triggered by some event that Israel had to defend itself against.

Now, Olmert is out there to trigger a war with Syria by shoving Israel's intrusion into Lebanon into Syria's face. Iran says that any war with Syria becomes a war by Israel against not only against Iran but all the Islamic nations.

Thus, I will do whatever I can to provide the analysis to help stop you from stopping Olmert from assuring Israel's destruction. At this moment of time, there is no war or battle between Israel and Syria. If you want to save Israel, you do what you can to stop Olmert from giving a green light to triggering such a war with Syria. Otherwise I believe the future for Israel is dark and dismal and the NWO will gain control over Jerusalem. This will surely earmark the time many prophets have alluded to and thus I am truly sickened by all that has happened and the failure to stop the course. As you can see my concerns were valid, and we are but a hair away from a line in the sand that Israel must not cross.

Thank you for your E-mails that help me in my endeavors to help change the current course.

Joseph Ehrlich
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July 14 2006 2:30 AM
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do you wackos dream this stuff up

or is there a big think tank of you nutjobs sittin around a circle jerk table


well i never


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the zoinist swine are behind most of the missery in the world and specifically in the Mid. East.

they have been using the jewish population to further their goals, which are to be enjoyed by the few.

they gave up their own during WWII to consolidate money thus power.

it all started pre WWII in a place in London called Tavistock Square, which by pure conincidental coincidence was the venue of the bus bombing 7/7/2005.

the same terrorists that blew up the bus are blowing up the Mid. East.

WAKE UP YOU ARE BEING PLAYED AGAINST EACHOTHER WHILE they GAIN
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Thats because Hamas and Hezbollah are funded by Mossad dummy. Please do your homework before you accuse others of being naive.

What do the arabs have to gain from this escalation? The answer is a big fat NADA

What do Israel gain?


Last time I checked Hamas was cash strapped and they went to Iran, shaked hands with Mad Mehdi-wannabe Ahmadinejad and got a lot of money.

Oh, aint this sweet. If Hamas and Hezbollah attack Israel and dont gain anything fro the attack it's all the hand of Israel. False flag. If they do attack and gain something, like a prisoner swap, they are not funded by Israel but legitimate and righteous resistance organisation.
Ahhh, shut up! lala
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The perfect and true picture of all zionazis, within israel and without. You are all walking straight into yur demise with your fingers in your ear and your head up your asses.
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I realize alot more than people accuseing me of realizing. Maybe I care not shareing every revleation.: p

So it would be better if he was an unintelligent right winger?

I see.



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do you wackos dream this stuff up

or is there a big think tank of you nutjobs sittin around a circle jerk table


well i never


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... maybe you should!
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The FACT that Israel deliberately targets civilians says it all - Israel is attempting to genocide everyone who is not a zionist 'jew'. The Israelis have given Jews a very bad name. The have and are commiting War Crimes. Where is the International War Crimes Tribunal? Where have they been as George W. Bush commits atrocity after atrocity in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Someone, somewhere had better step up and stop these monsters before they destroy the whole planet and everyone on it.
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Germany invading Poland was considered so evil that WWII was declared. Germany was taking back territory that belonged to it, plus the Poles had been attacking Germany much more substantially than the mere kidnap of a couple of German soldiers.
If it is okay for Israel to invade Lebanon like they have then why would it not have been okay for the Germans to use similar excuses in invading Poland? The Israelis can just get away with anything!
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DELIBERATE attacks on civilians?

Your concept of genocide is surely a strange one, I would like to hear a more precise definition.

Guess that if you try, the only pertinent use you will find concerns what the muslims are willing to do to Israel.

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