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Careful Atlanta: Deadly Ebola may be in your sewage soon

 
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I wonder whether a microwave cooker would kill in bug in excrement? ....Or ultraviolet light?
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I wonder whether a microwave cooker would kill in bug in excrement? ....Or ultraviolet light?
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Doubtful. This is how they ended up with various live viruses in vaccines.
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Yes, heat will kill it.

SUSCEPTIBILITY TO DISINFECTANTS: Ebola virus is susceptible to sodium hypochlorite, lipid solvents, phenolic disinfectants, peracetic acid, methyl alcohol, ether, sodium deoxycholate, 2% glutaraldehyde, 0.25% Triton X-100, β-propiolactone, 3% acetic acid (pH 2.5), formaldehyde and paraformaldehyde, and detergents such as SDS (20, 21, 31-34).

PHYSICAL INACTIVATION: Ebola are moderately thermolabile and can be inactivated by heating for 30 minutes to 60 minutes at 60ºC, boiling for 5 minutes, gamma irradiation (1.2 x106 rads to 1.27 x106 rads), and/or UV radiation (3, 6, 20, 32, 33).

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Atlanta has had the CDC there a very long time, and has been housing Ebola, Smallpox, etc etc. People work in the BSL4 labs, they run water, they piss, they shit.. they wash Ebola, Smallpox and other nasty shit down the drain every day.

If the water was an issue, we'd been dead a long time ago.
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The two infected ones aren't at the CDC, they are at Emory hospital and that's the difference. Yes, the CDC already has measures in place for biohazards of this magnitude but Emory Hospital is playing it by ear because it's their first time dealing with this as they've already admitted.

While there at Emory, Dr. Brantly and Nancy Writebol both still use the bathroom, wash their hands and are getting sponge baths. Daily. The waste has to go somewhere and it's heading straight UNDER Emory's basement. Common sense says that hygiene inside and OUT of the hospital is of the utmost importance. Emory already has a few strikes against them since they brought these infected people there.

Cleaning the rooms and the patients should be a serious concern for hospitals including Emory, especially if you had them saying over in Sierra Leone to not " touch the walls".

[link to www.nytimes.com]
"So many patients, nurses and health workers have died in the government hospital that many people in this city, a center of the world’s worst Ebola epidemic, see it as a death trap......“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”

I think the entire ward these two are in including the isolation rooms, the furniture and the piping have been exposed to this deadly disease at some level regardless of the media saying they have "reverse air flow". It was not a good idea.
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Dear Idiot,

We have much different aseptic techniques here in America.
Emory is the hospital the CDC uses for people who become infected with a BSL4 Agent, the building is called the Slammer.. (google that, you seem to rely on it).
The waste water doesn't flow under the basement.
Why don't you do some actual reading, you can't equate a mud floor, open air, no electricity, no running water hut to the CDC's BSL4 patient care of Emory University Hospital.
A) The water filtration in the hospital is closed loop.
We have pipes, and in house filtration in a closed loop system. Hospital water does just run the fucking street you dumbass blow hole.
2) Air filtration, closed loop.
3) We have this cool little thing called "Zapper", it's UV lighting that "zaps" this every loving shit of virus, and bacteria killing them.
4) Negative air pressure isolation, and control ready rooms.

You can google all this, but I doubt your IQ of 40 will be able to appreciate the information.
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clappa clappa clappa
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how long can the Ebola virus survive without a host, in lets say the sewage system?
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Imagine if it infects rats, bats, or whatever else?
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Atlanta has had the CDC there a very long time, and has been housing Ebola, Smallpox, etc etc. People work in the BSL4 labs, they run water, they piss, they shit.. they wash Ebola, Smallpox and other nasty shit down the drain every day.

If the water was an issue, we'd been dead a long time ago.
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The two infected ones aren't at the CDC, they are at Emory hospital and that's the difference. Yes, the CDC already has measures in place for biohazards of this magnitude but Emory Hospital is playing it by ear because it's their first time dealing with this as they've already admitted.

While there at Emory, Dr. Brantly and Nancy Writebol both still use the bathroom, wash their hands and are getting sponge baths. Daily. The waste has to go somewhere and it's heading straight UNDER Emory's basement. Common sense says that hygiene inside and OUT of the hospital is of the utmost importance. Emory already has a few strikes against them since they brought these infected people there.

Cleaning the rooms and the patients should be a serious concern for hospitals including Emory, especially if you had them saying over in Sierra Leone to not " touch the walls".

[link to www.nytimes.com]
"So many patients, nurses and health workers have died in the government hospital that many people in this city, a center of the world’s worst Ebola epidemic, see it as a death trap......“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”

I think the entire ward these two are in including the isolation rooms, the furniture and the piping have been exposed to this deadly disease at some level regardless of the media saying they have "reverse air flow". It was not a good idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56423582

Dear Idiot,

We have much different aseptic techniques here in America.
Emory is the hospital the CDC uses for people who become infected with a BSL4 Agent, the building is called the Slammer.. (google that, you seem to rely on it).
The waste water doesn't flow under the basement.
Why don't you do some actual reading, you can't equate a mud floor, open air, no electricity, no running water hut to the CDC's BSL4 patient care of Emory University Hospital.
A) The water filtration in the hospital is closed loop.
We have pipes, and in house filtration in a closed loop system. Hospital water does just run the fucking street you dumbass blow hole.
2) Air filtration, closed loop.
3) We have this cool little thing called "Zapper", it's UV lighting that "zaps" this every loving shit of virus, and bacteria killing them.
4) Negative air pressure isolation, and control ready rooms.

You can google all this, but I doubt your IQ of 40 will be able to appreciate the information.
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Quite right. Even if it were released into a City of Atlanta POTW system, while dreadful, they nevertheless use a robust phys-chem process followed by gravity separation, biologicals (specifically, rotifers) in EQ tanks, clarification and aeration before discharge.

The problems mostly lie in the antiquated municipal piping system (largely in the Southwest part of town), which is where the per day EPA fines are levied.

But, as you suggest, untreated hospital waste is not released directly into a POTW system (nor is other bio or industrial wastewater).
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100 % Pure ATL Ebola Gutter Oil Dumplings
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They are dumping it into the sewers, to provide an excuse for when it shows up in multiple places, downstream.

Of course, they will deliberately spread it in those areas, probably by infecting houses closest to breaks in the sewer line.

The infected americans were brought back to insure there is a transmission vector into the USA.
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It is a sign of the coming new world order

No more countries

Everyone must have equal chance of getting sick

It is just fair
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They are dumping it into the sewers, to provide an excuse for when it shows up in multiple places, downstream.

Of course, they will deliberately spread it in those areas, probably by infecting houses closest to breaks in the sewer line.

The infected americans were brought back to insure there is a transmission vector into the USA.
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yeh, but now we gotta wait for another 15 days for this thing to come ripe.
the suspense is killing me!
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First world might execute and incinerate any suspected ebola cases, so there's nothing to worry about.

Anyone see Return of the Living Dead?
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First world might execute and incinerate any suspected ebola cases, so there's nothing to worry about.

Anyone see Return of the Living Dead?
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yes. maybe we can stop this zombie thing before it gets out of hand.
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Atlanta eats pieces of shit like you for breakfast

You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

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Like fleas, viruses like clean people. They don't like getting poopoo. But that virus might mutate with all the stinky bacteria.

I figure the ebola will assemble and mutate into the ebola shit monster! It will be like the loch ness monster, deep inside the tunnels of Atlanta Georgia. Swimming in the waste water from corpses that have been liquefied with chemicals and flushed down the drain. A big long black snake with a rubber band smiley face. EEEEEEBBBOOOOOLAAAAAA!

Pity the guy in the yellow suit that had to play in that sewage. I can smell the rotten cabbage from here.
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Atlanta has had the CDC there a very long time, and has been housing Ebola, Smallpox, etc etc. People work in the BSL4 labs, they run water, they piss, they shit.. they wash Ebola, Smallpox and other nasty shit down the drain every day.

If the water was an issue, we'd been dead a long time ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59194921


The two infected ones aren't at the CDC, they are at Emory hospital and that's the difference. Yes, the CDC already has measures in place for biohazards of this magnitude but Emory Hospital is playing it by ear because it's their first time dealing with this as they've already admitted.

While there at Emory, Dr. Brantly and Nancy Writebol both still use the bathroom, wash their hands and are getting sponge baths. Daily. The waste has to go somewhere and it's heading straight UNDER Emory's basement. Common sense says that hygiene inside and OUT of the hospital is of the utmost importance. Emory already has a few strikes against them since they brought these infected people there.

Cleaning the rooms and the patients should be a serious concern for hospitals including Emory, especially if you had them saying over in Sierra Leone to not " touch the walls".

[link to www.nytimes.com]
"So many patients, nurses and health workers have died in the government hospital that many people in this city, a center of the world’s worst Ebola epidemic, see it as a death trap......“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”

I think the entire ward these two are in including the isolation rooms, the furniture and the piping have been exposed to this deadly disease at some level regardless of the media saying they have "reverse air flow". It was not a good idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56423582

Dear Idiot,

We have much different aseptic techniques here in America.
Emory is the hospital the CDC uses for people who become infected with a BSL4 Agent, the building is called the Slammer.. (google that, you seem to rely on it).
The waste water doesn't flow under the basement.
Why don't you do some actual reading, you can't equate a mud floor, open air, no electricity, no running water hut to the CDC's BSL4 patient care of Emory University Hospital.
A) The water filtration in the hospital is closed loop.
We have pipes, and in house filtration in a closed loop system. Hospital water does just run the fucking street you dumbass blow hole.
2) Air filtration, closed loop.
3) We have this cool little thing called "Zapper", it's UV lighting that "zaps" this every loving shit of virus, and bacteria killing them.
4) Negative air pressure isolation, and control ready rooms.

You can google all this, but I doubt your IQ of 40 will be able to appreciate the information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59194921




Quite right. Even if it were released into a City of Atlanta POTW system, while dreadful, they nevertheless use a robust phys-chem process followed by gravity separation, biologicals (specifically, rotifers) in EQ tanks, clarification and aeration before discharge.

The problems mostly lie in the antiquated municipal piping system (largely in the Southwest part of town), which is where the per day EPA fines are levied.

But, as you suggest, untreated hospital waste is not released directly into a POTW system (nor is other bio or industrial wastewater).
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Exactly right. EPA has pretreatment regulations hospitals have to abide by.

I'm betting you're in the water or wastewater field based on your explanation
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What a great idea! A handy and easy way to dispose of it all... jeez, it's like they want an apocalypse.
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The two infected ones aren't at the CDC, they are at Emory hospital and that's the difference. Yes, the CDC already has measures in place for biohazards of this magnitude but Emory Hospital is playing it by ear because it's their first time dealing with this as they've already admitted.

While there at Emory, Dr. Brantly and Nancy Writebol both still use the bathroom, wash their hands and are getting sponge baths. Daily. The waste has to go somewhere and it's heading straight UNDER Emory's basement. Common sense says that hygiene inside and OUT of the hospital is of the utmost importance. Emory already has a few strikes against them since they brought these infected people there.

Cleaning the rooms and the patients should be a serious concern for hospitals including Emory, especially if you had them saying over in Sierra Leone to not " touch the walls".

[link to www.nytimes.com]
"So many patients, nurses and health workers have died in the government hospital that many people in this city, a center of the world’s worst Ebola epidemic, see it as a death trap......“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”“Don’t touch the walls!” a Western medical technician yelled out. “Totally infected.”

I think the entire ward these two are in including the isolation rooms, the furniture and the piping have been exposed to this deadly disease at some level regardless of the media saying they have "reverse air flow". It was not a good idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56423582

Dear Idiot,

We have much different aseptic techniques here in America.
Emory is the hospital the CDC uses for people who become infected with a BSL4 Agent, the building is called the Slammer.. (google that, you seem to rely on it).
The waste water doesn't flow under the basement.
Why don't you do some actual reading, you can't equate a mud floor, open air, no electricity, no running water hut to the CDC's BSL4 patient care of Emory University Hospital.
A) The water filtration in the hospital is closed loop.
We have pipes, and in house filtration in a closed loop system. Hospital water does just run the fucking street you dumbass blow hole.
2) Air filtration, closed loop.
3) We have this cool little thing called "Zapper", it's UV lighting that "zaps" this every loving shit of virus, and bacteria killing them.
4) Negative air pressure isolation, and control ready rooms.

You can google all this, but I doubt your IQ of 40 will be able to appreciate the information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59194921




Quite right. Even if it were released into a City of Atlanta POTW system, while dreadful, they nevertheless use a robust phys-chem process followed by gravity separation, biologicals (specifically, rotifers) in EQ tanks, clarification and aeration before discharge.

The problems mostly lie in the antiquated municipal piping system (largely in the Southwest part of town), which is where the per day EPA fines are levied.

But, as you suggest, untreated hospital waste is not released directly into a POTW system (nor is other bio or industrial wastewater).
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Exactly right. EPA has pretreatment regulations hospitals have to abide by.

I'm betting you're in the water or wastewater field based on your explanation
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I'm really starting to wonder about people like this guy.

We get experts on different fields or facilities on here all the time....but they usually lead off with that. "I worked on the design team for Emory Hospital..." etc.

Then we have people who come on here and spout all kinds of "facts" with no source about facilities that are not exactly public information. How does this guy know these specific details about this facility?

If someone is an expert or has links to material, that's awesome. But I'm sorry.....if you just paste a wall of text with no credibility or reason why you would know that information, I'm forced to assume you're likely going off a script.


AS a civil engineer, I can tell you that Ebola in the sewage system would be killed at the point of discharge if everything is working normally.

HOWEVEVER. If its a combined stormwater system that experiences overflows....no, it won't be killed in an overflow event.

Also.....huge risk of infection to the workers who constantly interact with the sewage system BEFORE treatment.

They would be at risk of infection for whatever period the virus could survive without a host (which I think is on the shorter side)

Also...because its not my area of expertise and I'm not a shill with a script....I can't speak to a hospital's internal systems.
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Ebola Patients Brought to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta", after The Federal Public Health Service had assured the public that it is a Biosafety Level 4 treatment center as required by CDC. It appears to meet the CDC standard for containment of aerosols in hospitals, but offers no safety for aerosols generated during sewage treatment to plant workers, sludge (biosolids) haulers, or those exposed to Filoviruses (ebola) in reclaimed sewage effluent used as irrigation on parks, school grounds and food crops as well as the users of sewage sludge (biosolids) used for the same purposes.

Laboratories are required to disinfect all hazardous pathogenic (infectious) waste before releasing the waste into the environment for Disposal however, in this case some misinformed Military Officer within the Federal Public
Health Service (yes, it is a military organization embedded within every federal health protection agency) assured the doctors that general waste management practices at a sewage treatment plant will kill any virus in blood, shit or urine that’s flushed into the waste water system.


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Rat's exit the sewer way before the water treatment facility
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there is a way to fight Ebola with children's blood since children don't die From Ebola Thread: HOW COME CHILDREN DONT GET EBOLA?
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there is a way to fight Ebola with children's blood since children don't die From Ebola Thread: HOW COME CHILDREN DONT GET EBOLA?
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Dear Idiot,

We have much different aseptic techniques here in America.
Emory is the hospital the CDC uses for people who become infected with a BSL4 Agent, the building is called the Slammer.. (google that, you seem to rely on it).
The waste water doesn't flow under the basement.
Why don't you do some actual reading, you can't equate a mud floor, open air, no electricity, no running water hut to the CDC's BSL4 patient care of Emory University Hospital.
A) The water filtration in the hospital is closed loop.
We have pipes, and in house filtration in a closed loop system. Hospital water does just run the fucking street you dumbass blow hole.
2) Air filtration, closed loop.
3) We have this cool little thing called "Zapper", it's UV lighting that "zaps" this every loving shit of virus, and bacteria killing them.
4) Negative air pressure isolation, and control ready rooms.

You can google all this, but I doubt your IQ of 40 will be able to appreciate the information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59194921


Dear Genius,

Could you please send a memo to Bruce Ribner, M.D.
Emory Clinic
Assistant Professor of Medicine
Emory Health care Network Physician
Specialties:
Infectious Disease (Board certified since 1976)
Internal Medicine (Board certified since 1973)

Because his words are, and I quote "Their bodily waste, including stool, will be flushed into the public sewer system. Ribner said there was no risk of transmission to the general public because waste management practices will kill any virus that’s flushed into waste water.

“The U.S. public health service has established that that is an effective way of dealing with these viruses,” he said. “Whatever comes out of the public sewer system should not be contagious."


Now, since Dr. Bruce Ribner is apparently taking responsibility for both of these patients at Emory, you should let the fine doctor know exactly how their sanitation systems are supposed to work.

PS. Might want to send a memo to the CDC and The U.S. public health service, because their guidelines for handling infective and contagious liquid waste, as linked in the AUG 1 post, reflect that same error.

I would also recommend that you put in for a promotion, your talents are clearly being wasted as a Maintenance Engineer.
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:LPSEV:

Nobody wants Atlanta's Ebola
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Keep in mind to those claiming that they have procedures in place to treat the liquid waste before it leaves the hospital, despite the words spoken to the contrary. Those same people did not follow procedure when they transported a know carrier of Ebola through the streets and hospital while the patient was wearing a common respirator, that while it does clean the air the patient breaths, does nothing to the air they expel.
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Hopefully it is killed in treatment plants

Or good bye Atlanta
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What a fag this guy is.
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ohyeah that was bombshell because they said it was unauthorized. Meaning whoever tweeted it, did it too soon.

Another good one is
Thread: Atlanta ebola false flag coming! global incident map Atlanta and Los Angeles months ago. Craigslist posts seeking crisis actors in Atlanta!
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