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THE IDENTITY OF MODERN DAY EDOM

 
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THE IDENTITY OF MODERN DAY EDOM
THE IDENTITY OF MODERN DAY EDOM


"The racial question is the key to world
history...All is race, there is no other
truth." -Benjamin Disraeli


"Edom is in modern Jewry." The Jewish
Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol. 5, Page 41

No less a historical researcher than Sheldon Emry showed long ago that Edom still exists in the world today and lives synonymously as the jews. Mr. Emry had written a powerful pamphlet, first printed in 1968, entitled, "An Open Letter To Any Minister Who Teaches 'The Jews Are Israel'". Under the section, "Esau-Edom And The 'Jews'", Mr. Emry devastatingly proved the equivalence between Biblical Edom and modern day jewry. His section, "Khazars And The 'Jews'" showed unquestionably the non-Israelitish origins of the contemporary "jewish" people. The following is quoted from Mr. Emry's "Esau-Edom And The 'Jews'" section.

"34" "In the GENESIS 25 story of Esau selling the birthright to Jacob, we read that he sold it for 'red pottage...therefore was his name called Edom.' Edom means 'Red'.

"35" "GENESIS 28:9 tells us that Esau went 'unto Ishmael and took unto the wives which he had Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael,' GENESIS 36:2 says he also 'took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and Aholibaman the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite.' So these descendants of Esau would be called ISHMAELITES, CANAANITES, HITTITES, AND HIVITES! The very people God later ordered Israel NOT to marry!

"36" "God makes sure we know of the separation of Esau and Jacob (Israel), for GENESIS 36:6 tells us, 'Esau took his wives, and his sons, and his daughters...and went into the country from the face of his brother Jacob.' Therefore Esau's offspring would NOT take husbands and wives from the Hebrews, BUT FROM THE ISMAELITES AND CANAANITES AMONG WHOM THEY DWELT! In a few generations they would be almost full-blooded ISMAELITES and CANAANITES.

"37" "The rest of GENESIS 36 tells us four times that Esau 'is Edom' and the 'father of Edomites.' Adding this up we would expect Esau's progeny to be known as Ishmaelites, Canaanities, Hittites, Hivites, or collectively as 'EDOMITES'. Remember as you read on that Edom means 'Red'.

"38" "Several hundred years later when God delivered the Israelites from Egypt, NUMBERS 20 tells us THE FIRST PEOPLE TO FIGHT THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WERE THE 'EDOMITES'! All the books of history in the Bible tell of ENMITY AND WAR between Israel and 'Edom'. As I've shown, the Exodus Israelites were NOT called 'Jews'. Only Israelites of the Judah Kingdom (500 years after the Exodus) were called Jews, from the name 'Judahite'. (2 KINGS 16:6)

"39" "In the book of Esther, when the king sent out the decree to protect the 'Jews' (who were the Judahites of the Babylonian captivity), 'many of the people of the land BECAME JEWS; for the fear of the jews fell upon them.' (ESTHER 8:17) This king ruled 'from India unto Ethiopia' compassing the territory occupied by the Hittites, Hivites, Jebusites and Canaanites, so it is probable that tens of thousands of these people collectively known as 'EDOM' professed the name 'Jew' to escape the king's wrath. They were NOT descendants of Jacob-Israel, though they had now become 'Jews'. This was 500 years BEFORE Christ.

"40" "In EZRA 9:1 after the Jewish remnant returned to Palestine, we find they took wives among the Hittites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians, and the Amorites; thereby adding more of 'Edom' to the 'Jews' who lived in Jerusalem at the coming of Jesus Christ.

"41" "Coming down through history to near the time of Christ we find that Flavius Josephus states that the 'Idumeans' (Edomites) became part of 'Jewry', as we have seen from the book of ESTHER. This would explain why some 'Jews' believed the Christ, and other 'Jews' hated Him. Those who believed were simply the ones of Israelite ancestry; while those who hated Him were of Esau-Edom! Now go back and read #23 and #32 before you go on!

"23" "You insist that Jesus came to the Jews, but in JOHN 10:26 Jesus said to the Jews, 'But ye believed me not BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF MY SHEEP (emphasis added) as I said unto you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.' Which people are the 'sheep' who knew Him and have followed Him the last 1,900 years?

"32" In ISAIAH 62:2 God said to Israel, 'Thou shalt be called by a new name which the mouth of the Lord shall name.' HOSEA 2:17 reads, 'They shall no more be remembered by their name.' In ISAIAH 65 God said to the enemies of His servant Israel, 'And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto My chosen; for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, AND CALL HIS SERVANTS BY ANOTHER NAME.' (emphasis added) These 'enemies' are yet called by their ancient name of 'Jew', but Israel lost her name and identity, became the 'Caucasian' Race (from the mountains of our captivity), and now the 'Christian' nations, named after the Name of our God and our Redeemer, the Lord Jesus Christ, are FULFILLING HIS PROPHECIES TO ISRAEL!

"42" "The BIBLICA ENCYCLOPEDIA, Vol. 2, Col. 1187, says that the Edomites are part of Jewry. The scientist and historian Dr. David Davidson wrote: 'Indeed the Edomites later became completely absorbed in Jewry and under their aggressive intrusion the Jews became

Have you ever wondered about this verse and its seemingly contradiction to what the rest of the Scriptures say about Edom. Well many of us have and we present the following from Pastor Clifton A. Emahiser, 1012 N. Vine Street, Fostoria, Ohio 44830; Phone No. (419) 435-2836.

As I promised you in my last teaching letter #22, I am going to clear up and document the problem with Deuteronomy 23:7. As I told you before, there are approximately 27,000 transnational errors in our present Bibles. Some various translations by various translators have attempted to clean up many of these discrepancies, but the errors are very numerous and overwhelming. The translation of Deuteronomy 23:7 is one of them. I will start by quoting this passage:

"Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou was a stranger in his land."

From this verse it would appear that we should welcome all Edomites into our congregations with open arms, and with no questions asked, and that we are somehow guilty of some dire contemptible sin for even thinking an evil thought against them. I ask you: Is this not the impression which seized upon you when you read this passage for the first time? Remember the guilty, dirty, condemning feeling which overcame you for even giving the Edomites the slightest hint of disparaging thought, that possibly Yahweh might suddenly kill you in your very tracks for even blinking an eye?

If this has been your reaction when reading this passage in the past, forget it, for that is not what this verse is saying; not even remotely. I happened upon this verse many years ago when I was listening to a presentation by an Identity speaker who was making reference to the Edomites by using this verse as one of his points. At the time, I decided to look into the Hebrew meaning of the word "Edomite" for myself. I found the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance Of The Bible," assigned the term "Edomite" the Hebrew word "130 which says:

"130 ... Edômîy, ...Edôwmîy, ed-o-mee': patronymic [derived from father's name] from #123; an Edomite, or descendant from (or inhabitant of) Edom: Edomite. See #726 Which had the following to say:

#726 ... Arôwmîy, ar-o-mee'; A CLERICAL ERROR FOR #130; an Edomite (as in the margin): Syrian.

At once the truth struck me (and this was about 15 years ago), for if the proper rendering was "Syrian" instead of "Edomite," it would make all the difference in the world. Over the years, since that time, I have pointed this clerical error out to many people of our persuasion. At the time, I knew this made more sense if Deuteronomy 23:7 were to correctly read "Syrian" rather than "Edomite" for the Syrians were Abraham's relatives, in which case this verse would read:

"Thou shalt not abhor a SYRIAN: for he is thy brother, thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land."

Over the years, I have been satisfied that the word should have been Syrian instead of Edomite. I remember one party who challenged me, indicating that it was only a clerical error, and really didn't mean anything. I finally came to the conclusion that it would be a hard proposition to prove and decided not to push the point openly any further.

That is, however, until recently, when I was preparing for this lesson, I accidentally discovered what the CLERICAL ERROR was. I will now reveal to you how I made this discovery. As I had decided to take up the topic of Esau, I was in the process of reading anything and everything I could find on the subject. I was reading along in "The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible," volume E-J, page 24, under the subtitle Edom, when I read this:

"...there are places where, because of the similarity between the letters ? (d) and ? (r), the text has wrongly read ???, 'Aram' (i.e. Syria), and ?????, 'Arameans" (i.e., Syrians), for ???, 'Edom,' and ?????, 'Edomites,' such as 2 Kings 16:6; 2 Chronicles 20:2, where the KJV has followed the MT, but the RSV has followed an emended text.

"Note: I have followed the Hebrew characters as faithfully as I know how to do on my computer; I may have made a mistake ... The main thing to notice here is the 'similarity between the letters ? (d) and ? (r). You can

see very readily, that a very small slip of the pen can change the word from Edomite to Samian, or Syrian to Edomite. I will enlarge these two Hebrew letters and place them side by side so you can observe the difference in them:

? ?

With this very small change in the Hebrew writing, and the word can be changed from Syrian to Edomite! Think of it this way, syRian or eDomite. By this above slight change, the Hebrew 'r' sound is changed to a 'd' sound.

Since I originally wrote this, I now realize that the small remnant of Judah from Jerusalem who went into Babylonian captivity spoke Hebrew when they went in and spoke Chaldee when they came out seventy years later.

Also, when they went in they were using a rounded style of Hebrew to write in, and when they came out they were using a square style of Hebrew. Is it possible that the changing from a rounded style to a square style produced such an error? Well, if it did, how many other mistakes are there because of this? After all, it is absurd to believe we should not "abhor an Edomite" when the Almighty hates them Himself.

"And I HATED ESAU, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, THE PEOPLE AGAINST WHOM THE LORD HATH INDIGNATION FOR EVER." (Malachi 1:3-4)

"And Edom said unto him, Thou shalt not pass by me, lest I come out against thee with the sword...And he (Edom) said, Thou shalt not go through. And Edom came out against him with much people, and with a strong hand. Thus Edom refused to give Israel passage through his border: wherefore Israel turned away from him." (Numbers 20:18-21)

Edomites

[EE dum ites] descendants of Edom, or ESAU; an ancient people who were enemies of the Israelites. During the days of Abraham, the region which later became the home of the Edomites was occupied by more than one tribe of non-Israelite peoples. When Esau moved to this region with his family and possessions, the HORITES already lived in the land Genesis 36:20.
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I have the true Identity....the OP is nuts!!!


Identity of Edom:

This is a pressed, semi-hard to hard cheese, made from cow's milk. It comes in a shape of ball covered with distinctive red wax. Edom is produced from skimmed or semi-skimmed milk. It is usually consumed young, when the texture is elastic and supple and the flavor is smooth, sweet and nutty. Black-wax coating means that Edom has been matured for at least 17 weeks. The cheese tastes delicious with a glass of Pinot Noir.
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So convenient that you just spill out that caucasans are the true Israel but give no scriptural nor historical data to support this incredibly racist and self righteous lie. Then you equate yourself to God, saying its ok for you to hate Edom because God does. You are not God. And please leave God out of your backwards attempt to assert yourself as a superior race and another as inferior. This crap you' ve written is blasphemous, untrue, unsupported and in total opposition to the word and very spirit of God. So how are you any better than an edomite? Are you not an edomite? Food for thought.
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So convenient that you just spill out that caucasans are the true Israel but give no scriptural nor historical data to support this incredibly racist and self righteous lie. Then you equate yourself to God, saying its ok for you to hate Edom because God does. You are not God. And please leave God out of your backwards attempt to assert yourself as a superior race and another as inferior. This crap you' ve written is blasphemous, untrue, unsupported and in total opposition to the word and very spirit of God. So how are you any better than an edomite? Are you not an edomite? Food for thought.
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So convenient that you just spill out that caucasans are the true Israel but give no scriptural nor historical data to support this incredibly racist and self righteous lie. Then you equate yourself to God, saying its ok for you to hate Edom because God does. You are not God. And please leave God out of your backwards attempt to assert yourself as a superior race and another as inferior. This crap you' ve written is blasphemous, untrue, unsupported and in total opposition to the word and very spirit of God. So how are you any better than an edomite? Are you not an edomite? Food for thought.
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looks like he laid it out pretty thoroughly to me. Were able to comprehend the text? Or did you just go to the race card as a knee jerk reaction because you couldn't understand what you read?
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So convenient that you just spill out that caucasans are the true Israel but give no scriptural nor historical data to support this incredibly racist and self righteous lie. Then you equate yourself to God, saying its ok for you to hate Edom because God does. You are not God. And please leave God out of your backwards attempt to assert yourself as a superior race and another as inferior. This crap you' ve written is blasphemous, untrue, unsupported and in total opposition to the word and very spirit of God. So how are you any better than an edomite? Are you not an edomite? Food for thought.
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looks like he laid it out pretty thoroughly to me. Were able to comprehend the text? Or did you just go to the race card as a knee jerk reaction because you couldn't understand what you read?
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Yeah that is what that liberal did, he's like the blacks who play the race card when they lose a debate, and the synagogue of satan jew who plays the antisemite card on a daily basis to cover up their wickedness. He or she must be a liberal, black, jew, or other tare.
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So convenient that you just spill out that caucasans are the true Israel but give no scriptural nor historical data to support this incredibly racist and self righteous lie. Then you equate yourself to God, saying its ok for you to hate Edom because God does. You are not God. And please leave God out of your backwards attempt to assert yourself as a superior race and another as inferior. This crap you' ve written is blasphemous, untrue, unsupported and in total opposition to the word and very spirit of God. So how are you any better than an edomite? Are you not an edomite? Food for thought.
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He's right on the mark, and it's 100% correct. Either you are a jew, a black, a liberal multiculturist, judeo christian, or just plain dumb. The white Anglo Saxon and related white kindred people are true Israel, an dthere are over 70 scriptural fingerprints that Identify them as such. No other race of people fullfill them.
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Friend, England is Edom and America is the daughter of Edom. Read this: Thread: ENGLAND IS EDOM
Edom is synoymous with Babylon see Psalms 137
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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Friend, England is Edom and America is the daughter of Edom. Read this: Thread: ENGLAND IS EDOM
Edom is synoymous with Babylon see Psalms 137
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Crap finally someone got it right!


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Honestly, I did not read the entire synopsis, but this comment isn't about that. I just want to shed some knowledge on those who think that just because someone has a difference in opinion, that their thoughts are wrong. Yes, there are people of different cultures and subcultures that deem it necessary to pull the race card (not saying that is what the above commenter did) to make themselves feel superior, just like there are always those of the majority who combat those comments by making them feel like their concerns are bogus and have nothing to do with the situation at hand because they are too uncomfortable to discuss matters intelligently or without tearing others down. The Bible has been altered so many times by kings who find people like William Shakespeare to write chapters according to their (the king's) taste. I've come to realize that while there are many useful themes in the Bible that may help one keep their faith in The Creator, the book is simply pages of made up stories told from the viewpoint of people with money who wanted to give people something to believe in. Africans had their own spirituality, then Europeans came to visit, took what was already established, changed a few things, started creating this book you speak of, slapped a new name on it and called it Christianity. On behalf of my ancestors, you're welcome.
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I have the true Identity....the OP is nuts!!!


Identity of Edom:

This is a pressed, semi-hard to hard cheese, made from cow's milk. It comes in a shape of ball covered with distinctive red wax. Edom is produced from skimmed or semi-skimmed milk. It is usually consumed young, when the texture is elastic and supple and the flavor is smooth, sweet and nutty. Black-wax coating means that Edom has been matured for at least 17 weeks. The cheese tastes delicious with a glass of Pinot Noir.
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414 branded moron, it is Edem.
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Wow only 10 comments with 5,268 views? Odd, is it not?


You can get a glimpse of the location, i.e. people in:

"And the uttermost cities of the tribe of the children of Judah toward the coast of Edom southward were Kabzeel, and Eder, and Jagur,..."

Joshua 15:21
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So convenient that you just spill out that caucasans are the true Israel but give no scriptural nor historical data to support this incredibly racist and self righteous lie. Then you equate yourself to God, saying its ok for you to hate Edom because God does. You are not God. And please leave God out of your backwards attempt to assert yourself as a superior race and another as inferior. This crap you' ve written is blasphemous, untrue, unsupported and in total opposition to the word and very spirit of God. So how are you any better than an edomite? Are you not an edomite? Food for thought.
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You are a twisting, liberal, parasitic, jew-mite,.. as it follows from your comment. Hating what God hates is not thinking of oneself as being equal to God, ro with God, or close to God, ---just like liking rainy weather does not make one equal to a slug.
However, hating the evil red edomites DO (just as loving righteousness) is a what God commands, for He hates evil and will do justice with the evil ones and them that do evil.

And yes, many of them are.

[link to reedbenson.com]
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To the above comment:

It is written:

"In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David [shall be] as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."
Zechariah 12:8

And

"But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or [that] thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?"
Psalm 50:16
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To the above comment:

It is written:

"In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David [shall be] as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."
Zechariah 12:8

And

"But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or [that] thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?"
Psalm 50:16
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I am at times a bit slow on rearing comprehension when it comes to derive the intended meaning from the Biblical passages. So, please would you kindly explain what did you want to say.
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we know who they are:

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Some things to think about:

The Edomites always lived to the south of the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. So, would that hold true today...?


In 1868, "Edo" was renamed to Tokyo.

Around 1900, the "kingdom of Edo" was renamed to Nigeria. The former slave coast of Africa comprised the "kingdom of Edo". They were heavily involved in selling other Africans into slavery, including their own.
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The so called white man are the edomites. White people have translucent skin and no melanin. That's why they apear pink not white. Or when they getvmad or embarased they turn red. So called caucasion or edomites are the true decendants of esau. And the same goes for tge fake jews in isreal. They are edomites too. The real isrealites are the blacks latinos and native americans. Here are the facts you Edomite in denial.

[link to m.therealhebrewisraelites.com]
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You caucasions are the true evil in this world. Spirit of esau and satan are in you. I bet you don't even know real name of the most high. Dont say jehova or yahwe. Those are false name made by you red faced crackers devils. You edomites are gonna be judged for what you did to us.
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How could that be when it was only the House of Israel that was prophesied to lose it's identity, NOT the House of Judah. The World has always known whom the House of Judah is.

Thread: Proof that those who reside in Jerusalem are the tribe of Judah!!!

Your teachings are false and you better repent.
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1star lies.
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Wondered who Edom was, thanks. You could be right. Keep studying everyone.
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THE IDENTITY OF MODERN DAY EDOM


"The racial question is the key to world
history...All is race, there is no other
truth." -Benjamin Disraeli


"Edom is in modern Jewry." The Jewish
Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol. 5, Page 41


"32" In ISAIAH 62:2 God said to Israel, 'Thou shalt be called by a new name which the mouth of the Lord shall name.' HOSEA 2:17 reads, 'They shall no more be remembered by their name.' In ISAIAH 65 God said to the enemies of His servant Israel, 'And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto My chosen; for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, AND CALL HIS SERVANTS BY ANOTHER NAME.' (emphasis added) These 'enemies' are yet called by their ancient name of 'Jew', but Israel lost her name and identity, became the 'Caucasian' Race (from the mountains of our captivity), and now the 'Christian' nations, named after the Name of our God and our Redeemer, the Lord Jesus Christ, are FULFILLING HIS PROPHECIES TO ISRAEL!

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You're wrong. Here, let me help you:

[link to www.triumphpro.com]

Go, and sin no more.

(Been here, done this. Get over it and move on. You will know them by thier works and words. Which does NOT mean that THEY are being represented by THEIR government etc., any more than America or Great Britain--and their corporations--represent Christians. Since the beginning, Esau has been pretending to be someone he most definitely is NOT. And he IS pretty good at it, isn't he? But enough's enough, already. Let's pull the mask off the pretender and get on with our lives... please?)
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Some things to think about:

The Edomites always lived to the south of the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. So, would that hold true today...?


In 1868, "Edo" was renamed to Tokyo.

Around 1900, the "kingdom of Edo" was renamed to Nigeria. The former slave coast of Africa comprised the "kingdom of Edo". They were heavily involved in selling other Africans into slavery, including their own.
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Edom is a chameleon and is race-mixer (or "arab" in Hebrew).

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