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John Nash User ID: 24921209 United States 08/12/2014 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin mining is like a computer solving an algorithmic problem that has a limited number of solutions. As more and more solutions are found the remaining number of solutions get harder and harder to find. Also, you are competing against other bitcoin miners whose computers are attempting to solve the same algorithm. So solutions to the algorithms are precious numbers that are rewarded to those whose solve the algorithm (known as a block) with bitcoins. Clear as mud, right? A supply-limited commodity, instantly transferable worldwide, person-to-person, is intrinsically and uniquely valuable. |
T-Man Entitled title User ID: 58336870 Netherlands 08/12/2014 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin mining is like a computer solving an algorithmic problem that has a limited number of solutions. As more and more solutions are found the remaining number of solutions get harder and harder to find. Also, you are competing against other bitcoin miners whose computers are attempting to solve the same algorithm. So solutions to the algorithms are precious numbers that are rewarded to those whose solve the algorithm (known as a block) with bitcoins. Clear as mud, right? Well no because youre leaving the most important thing out... |
Dogfood User ID: 8490939 United States 08/12/2014 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin mining is like a computer solving an algorithmic problem that has a limited number of solutions. As more and more solutions are found the remaining number of solutions get harder and harder to find. Also, you are competing against other bitcoin miners whose computers are attempting to solve the same algorithm. So solutions to the algorithms are precious numbers that are rewarded to those whose solve the algorithm (known as a block) with bitcoins. Clear as mud, right? or mine a diferent coin and trade it on an exchange for satoshi a increment of bitcoin. like a stock market for bitcoin. Last Edited by Dogfood™ on 08/12/2014 02:19 PM |
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John Nash User ID: 24921209 United States 08/12/2014 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I forgot about the average sixth grade education rule: [link to en.wikipedia.org] A supply-limited commodity, instantly transferable worldwide, person-to-person, is intrinsically and uniquely valuable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 219824 United States 08/12/2014 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PRetty stupid if you ask me. They should just dunk all the computer mother boards into mineral oil (a heat conductor, electrical insulator), throw away the fans and save a fortune on the electric bill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32577508 But I'm just an *innovative* American, so don't pay any attention to me. Ha ha. Aside from the impracticality of several thousand mobos submerged in mineral oil, you still have to remove the heat. So, major fail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47101202 Netherlands 08/12/2014 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin mining is like a computer solving an algorithmic problem that has a limited number of solutions. As more and more solutions are found the remaining number of solutions get harder and harder to find. Also, you are competing against other bitcoin miners whose computers are attempting to solve the same algorithm. So solutions to the algorithms are precious numbers that are rewarded to those whose solve the algorithm (known as a block) with bitcoins. Clear as mud, right? Well no because youre leaving the most important thing out... [link to startbitcoin.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47101202 Netherlands 08/12/2014 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The way that they are entered into the market is a process called “Mining”. Basically, computers solve mathematical algorithms to earn the Bitcoins. They are very complex and take a lot of computing power to solve. The more computers trying to solve the equations, the harder the equations become to solve, the less you get for mining." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33680650 United States 08/12/2014 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The way that they are entered into the market is a process called “Mining”. Basically, computers solve mathematical algorithms to earn the Bitcoins. They are very complex and take a lot of computing power to solve. The more computers trying to solve the equations, the harder the equations become to solve, the less you get for mining." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47101202 So who is doling out the Bitcoins? ------ |
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Carnac The Magnificent User ID: 3560801 United States 08/12/2014 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I notice that the electricity company doesn't accept bitcoins. LOL Quoting: Judethz "The place consumes a massive amount of electricity. The operators told me that the power bill of this specific operation is in excess of ¥400,000 per month (that’s about $60,000 USD)." 60K.... so that must be what my wife and kids are up to while I am out of town... you should see our electric bill -- but when I do get home for a weeken, the house is always uncomfortably warm. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
T-Man Entitled title User ID: 58336870 Netherlands 08/12/2014 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The way that they are entered into the market is a process called “Mining”. Basically, computers solve mathematical algorithms to earn the Bitcoins. They are very complex and take a lot of computing power to solve. The more computers trying to solve the equations, the harder the equations become to solve, the less you get for mining." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47101202 So who is doling out the Bitcoins? ------ yea exactly. why arnt they getting our question? lol we all understand they are calculating something major. but what??? and yes maybe we dont understand it. thats why we want to know |
~Awakened One~ User ID: 658762 United States 08/12/2014 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heat loads vary on motherboards. The cooling capacity of minerals oil is fixed and not capable of keeping up with the load. Quoting: halman ------ Couldn't you rig up some kind of refrigeration unit to kick in. fans would be cheaper, which is what they are already using illumination "peanut butter jelly time!! peanut butter jelly time!! peanut butter jelly time!!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35262456 United States 08/12/2014 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The way that they are entered into the market is a process called “Mining”. Basically, computers solve mathematical algorithms to earn the Bitcoins. They are very complex and take a lot of computing power to solve. The more computers trying to solve the equations, the harder the equations become to solve, the less you get for mining." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47101202 So who is doling out the Bitcoins? ------ Each computer runs the bitcoind server software. They are all constantly verifying the transaction log validating bitcoin transactions and also solving a puzzle and the first one to solve the puzzle is awarded bitcoins in a predefined amount based on the software each server runs. Basically they all agree to generate the coins out of thin air but only award them to the one server that solves the puzzle. If any server breaks the rules and alters their software so as to cheats and making their own rules the other servers will reject that transaction and determine that that person or server does not really own that bitcoin. |
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Agent Smith 2014 User ID: 1546575 United Kingdom 08/12/2014 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting.. But i would seriously consider watercooling blocks for each asic card. Think about it in the end you could have one giant water reservoir and a giant old pump,and old car radiators for the cooling of the reserviour. The cooling efficiency would be greatly increased, the electricity consuming fans would no-longer be needed, AND after all that they could overclock the ASICS to increase their Giga Hashes. Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
Agent Smith 2014 User ID: 1546575 United Kingdom 08/12/2014 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bitcoin is as real a currency as any. but with much more potential than FIAT currency. You do realize that paper currency has no intrinsic value and its purely backed up by gold that is supposed to exist in a central bank vault? Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
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Agent Smith 2014 User ID: 1546575 United Kingdom 08/12/2014 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | neither is the balance on screen at ATM machine REAL physical coins or physical anything. its not a physical object until you use your bank account to pay for a product, at which point you have transferred numbers in a computer into a physical thing like a piece of jewelry. Oh and BTW try going to your bank and asking for all your current account money in the form of gold. They wont do it. Last Edited by Agent Smith 2014 on 08/12/2014 02:57 PM Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16833028 United States 08/12/2014 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The way that they are entered into the market is a process called “Mining”. Basically, computers solve mathematical algorithms to earn the Bitcoins. They are very complex and take a lot of computing power to solve. The more computers trying to solve the equations, the harder the equations become to solve, the less you get for mining." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47101202 So who is doling out the Bitcoins? ------ Each computer runs the bitcoind server software. They are all constantly verifying the transaction log validating bitcoin transactions and also solving a puzzle and the first one to solve the puzzle is awarded bitcoins in a predefined amount based on the software each server runs. Basically they all agree to generate the coins out of thin air but only award them to the one server that solves the puzzle. If any server breaks the rules and alters their software so as to cheats and making their own rules the other servers will reject that transaction and determine that that person or server does not really own that bitcoin. That's fine and all, but they want to know who's creating the bitcoin software that people run to get bitcoins? From what I understand, bitcoin uses cryptography, which has been pioneered by the NSA and it's previous incarnations. Think the Enigma machine, which altered the course of WWII. So you are using NSA software when using bitcoin. Make no mistake about it, NSA does have a key to backdoor bitcoin access. Sheep be sheeping. |
Certified nutjob User ID: 59344392 United States 08/12/2014 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Digital coins each stamped with a unique digital id to they can not be copied, counterfited or double spent. They are pseudo anonymouns, not owned by any one country and can be transmitted over the internet within minutes and verified. duh. pretty standard knowledge I just always heard of bitcoin and never looked into it I thought they were real coins and when I seen 'mine' in the title I thought for sure it was a real solid coin haha ------------ Why so mad bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33680650 United States 08/12/2014 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting.. But i would seriously consider watercooling blocks for each asic card. Think about it in the end you could have one giant water reservoir and a giant old pump,and old car radiators for the cooling of the reserviour. The cooling efficiency would be greatly increased, the electricity consuming fans would no-longer be needed, AND after all that they could overclock the ASICS to increase their Giga Hashes. Quoting: Agent Smith 2014 APC and Liebert now make rack systems with the air conditioner in the rack. It's still air cooled but due to the proximity to the heat load they are very efficient. ------ |
hurray User ID: 57328733 Finland 08/12/2014 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they are virtual currency coded in internet + secured, this days you can have this wallet on a similar card like a plastic bank card with Qr-code to pay or receive and your wallet number. You have own code like in bank card... people decide on market the price of virtual currency. This days there is service's that can use to pay with your crypto. This service allows you to choose and pay straight in any currency you want.. it exchanges your cryptos to with a current market price to Euro or dollar for example. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35262456 United States 08/12/2014 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The way that they are entered into the market is a process called “Mining”. Basically, computers solve mathematical algorithms to earn the Bitcoins. They are very complex and take a lot of computing power to solve. The more computers trying to solve the equations, the harder the equations become to solve, the less you get for mining." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47101202 So who is doling out the Bitcoins? ------ Each computer runs the bitcoind server software. They are all constantly verifying the transaction log validating bitcoin transactions and also solving a puzzle and the first one to solve the puzzle is awarded bitcoins in a predefined amount based on the software each server runs. Basically they all agree to generate the coins out of thin air but only award them to the one server that solves the puzzle. If any server breaks the rules and alters their software so as to cheats and making their own rules the other servers will reject that transaction and determine that that person or server does not really own that bitcoin. That's fine and all, but they want to know who's creating the bitcoin software that people run to get bitcoins? From what I understand, bitcoin uses cryptography, which has been pioneered by the NSA and it's previous incarnations. Think the Enigma machine, which altered the course of WWII. So you are using NSA software when using bitcoin. Make no mistake about it, NSA does have a key to backdoor bitcoin access. Sheep be sheeping. The software is opensource run by no one and everyone that wants to participate. Feel free to look for any back doors from the NSA. Thousands of Mathematicians and scientists all around the world along with hackers have been verify the software is pretty much bullet proof. If anyone found a way to break it that could easily collapse the bitcoin market or make a lot of money by hiding it. |
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