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Without real love we are incapable of breaking free of this cycle.

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true . but only a handfull get to go to the higher levels. the rest reincarnates back on this world or one similair.
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Whatever it is happening here, it´s like a cleansing process, You don´t get out until you are clean, your soul knows better than you do.

Everything else is just an staged scenario wich makes possible that cleansing, over time.

Ego, has nothing to do with life. Ego is programmed to die naturally. The problem is you denying that occurrence.

You are not a victim of this system of training, you are the perpetrator of it because it fits the purposes of your soul.
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ok this has already been said on this forum.. i am here to confirm it.. had a psychedelic exp. i saw spirits going to the light and being zapped right back to earth/realm. i saw that there was an alien race doing this.. because they get off our fears and negativity (they thrive on our fears). that's why there are so many wars. the more people killed the more souls they can trap and faster.

that's what they mean by ''eternal life'' you are eternally trapped in the reincarnation cycle. you get a new life everytime you die. you are already in hell.

any thoughts on this?
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Another important thing to note about this is that you cannot be NOW what you are yet to be in the future.

GROWTH, tends to be slow, and can take AGES for you to reach the maturity point where you can HANDLE goin out into hiperspace.

While you whine about being "enslaved" by "aliens", you don´t even understand what those actors are doing for yourself. You will, eventually. Leading that understanding to the trascendence of this prison like experience. Have faith in your nature, in destiny, in life, in everything. Say YES to all that there is. To go trough it all and suceed.
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Many existed before us that have had an experience of
multidimensions and a few have re-produced where they have been.
Returning into another life with the instinctual knowledge
must (plz) be some of the last things ( beside in the name of love)
to pick -up from this world.
The alien factor in this rhelm has been an ongoing ponder.
This system was put in place by a "God" who is long gone, and then taken over by "alien" forces (actually interdimensional beings) who use it to keep us here in prison.Anonymous Coward
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You keep coming back until you remove all attachments, desires, jealousy, hate, fear, pride, greed, All WORLDLY THINGS... This is the truth, Its not easy but it is the only way out! Love and compassion is the raw'est most natural state of our minds, when you remove the negative qualities it is not emptiness it is love and compassion. This goes for EVERYONE! This is the purpose of meditation, uncovering your natural state.
This is enlightenment and is how we escape, this is also what Jesus Christ taught after returning from India during the "lost years of Christ". ages 13-28.
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Another important thing to note about this is that you cannot be NOW what you are yet to be in the future.

GROWTH, tends to be slow, and can take AGES for you to reach the maturity point where you can HANDLE goin out into hiperspace.

While you whine about being "enslaved" by "aliens", you don´t even understand what those actors are doing for yourself. You will, eventually. Leading that understanding to the trascendence of this prison like experience. Have faith in your nature, in destiny, in life, in everything. Say YES to all that there is. To go trough it all and suceed.
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I have a small understanding, it took two years of traveling a distance on a obe. I thought i wouldn't make it back. One night i made it to where we are from. Once there you will get the following

Im not coming back, this is my last circle in this closed loop reality.


"Whine about being enslaved". - no disrespect. - but ponder that as a truth for awhile as your growth lessons


Look up, out and within.... Trillions of stars and galaxies in this universe, billions of universes .... All swelling in limitless dimensions and you say we are to stay here and learn more....... Its a trap to make you believe it

Im done and nit coming back
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Another important thing to note about this is that you cannot be NOW what you are yet to be in the future.

GROWTH, tends to be slow, and can take AGES for you to reach the maturity point where you can HANDLE goin out into hiperspace.

While you whine about being "enslaved" by "aliens", you don´t even understand what those actors are doing for yourself. You will, eventually. Leading that understanding to the trascendence of this prison like experience. Have faith in your nature, in destiny, in life, in everything. Say YES to all that there is. To go trough it all and suceed.
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I have a small understanding, it took two years of traveling a distance on a obe. I thought i wouldn't make it back. One night i made it to where we are from. Once there you will get the following

Im not coming back, this is my last circle in this closed loop reality.


"Whine about being enslaved". - no disrespect. - but ponder that as a truth for awhile as your growth lessons


Look up, out and within.... Trillions of stars and galaxies in this universe, billions of universes .... All swelling in limitless dimensions and you say we are to stay here and learn more....... Its a trap to make you believe it

Im done and nit coming back
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im not with you on that. Figures doesn´t matter, appearances, doesn´t matter, stars, universes, galaxies.... doesn´t matter, at all. That´s just all fancyness, landscapes, appearance, superficiality; not spirituality, at all. And you are here because, spiritualiy. To get out of here you need spirituality, not denial. Your mindset wont help your ego desires, after all, it´s not you who decides, but your soul if you need to keep yourself here until you are not desperate to see another galaxy.
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So many people here live in such fear, no matter what they interpret as truth... in such negativity, that the way to salvation they think will save them enslaves them more to that they hate so much just because of that HATE.

When they recognize they themselves are the problem, not "aliens trapping souls".....

Those aliens are babysitters, keeping your egomaniacs into this kindergarten until you mature. That´s the truth.
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People from here can´t get out until prepared because otherwise they will be a major disruption in energy balances outside this planet. They will be a threat.

That applies to the physicality of alien contact here in earth. We are a bunch of idiots, warring each other all the time, from a forum to a country.
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You keep coming back until you remove all attachments, desires, jealousy, hate, fear, pride, greed, All WORLDLY THINGS... This is the truth, Its not easy but it is the only way out! Love and compassion is the raw'est most natural state of our minds, when you remove the negative qualities it is not emptiness it is love and compassion. This goes for EVERYONE! This is the purpose of meditation, uncovering your natural state.
This is enlightenment and is how we escape, this is also what Jesus Christ taught after returning from India during the "lost years of Christ". ages 13-28.
Compassion-Love-Mindfulness
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great comments so far, but this one wins :)
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You keep coming back until you remove all attachments, desires, jealousy, hate, fear, pride, greed, All WORLDLY THINGS... This is the truth, Its not easy but it is the only way out! Love and compassion is the raw'est most natural state of our minds, when you remove the negative qualities it is not emptiness it is love and compassion. This goes for EVERYONE! This is the purpose of meditation, uncovering your natural state.
This is enlightenment and is how we escape, this is also what Jesus Christ taught after returning from India during the "lost years of Christ". ages 13-28.
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great comments so far, but this one wins :)
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No, it doesn´t, it shows desperation and lack of faith in this life, "you got to get out of here as soon as possible", "GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT, YOU IDIOT, UNENLIGHTENED BY MY ENLIGHTENMEN."

It instills hate and contempt towards this life. That´s not good. Most ramblings here, just about all, is just raw straw of desperate people that leds you nowhere but where you are now already, as deserved.

No wonder why we are all a bunch of failures, personally, and as a collective, most people can´t even look further than their own noses.
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Another important thing to note about this is that you cannot be NOW what you are yet to be in the future.

GROWTH, tends to be slow, and can take AGES for you to reach the maturity point where you can HANDLE goin out into hiperspace.

While you whine about being "enslaved" by "aliens", you don´t even understand what those actors are doing for yourself. You will, eventually. Leading that understanding to the trascendence of this prison like experience. Have faith in your nature, in destiny, in life, in everything. Say YES to all that there is. To go trough it all and suceed.
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Im done and nit coming back
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i don't want to come back either.. but maybe u might if they promise u worldy things u didn't get to experience in ur past life. haven't traveled the world? ok you get a new life that u will travel the world. didn't find the love of ur life? ok u get to have a new life were u will find one. etc. it's according to a theme and that is based on what u did not get to experience in ur previous life. like the AC already pointed out

many people have had nde and say that ur whole life will get reviewed. and i think they are correct. and u will get an evaluation. a grade so to speak. it's not totally up to you if u will come back to this world or not.
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The War Over Men’s Souls

In the Holy Quran at the time of death it is the soul (nafs) which is taken away as in the verse:”And no soul can die but with Allah’s permission” (4:144).

On the Day of Judgment it is the soul which will appear before Allah: “And every soul comes, with it a driver and a witness” (50:21).

This soul will be given a different body after death, and will enter into hell or heaven. In short, since soul is the essence of man, everything that is given in this earthly life is given to the soul, and so too will be the rewards and punishment of the Hereafter. “To Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth.”

The soul or the spirit of humans is immortal. However the soul can be lost.

Mark 8-36 states: “What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?”

Eph 6-12: “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against ‘principalities,’ against ‘powers,’ against the ‘rulers of darkness of this world’ , against ‘spiritual wickedness’ in high places”

Matthew 10:28: "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

And now, for the atheist:
Mankind is an alien controlled experiment. The secret government knows about this experiment but is hiding it from us. The aliens refer to us as containers. There is a cube on the Moon with an antenna.

Our moon was brought here from another star system long ago, as part of the experiment. Earth was taken over about 200 thousand years ago, and Humanity is a genetically engineered slave race. It is the souls of light that are the real reason for all of this because Reptilians need a constant supply of emotional food to enable them to do anything. Without a fuel source, negative souls are dead in the water, and are completely powerless.

CONTINUE: [link to nationalufocenter.com]
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Those aliens are babysitters, keeping your egomaniacs into this kindergarten until you mature. That´s the truth.
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true.. that why i am letting go of everything that is worldly.. and try to take the spiritual path... again there are so many path that are 'spiritual' but are traps aswell. so how do i know whick path to go by? or just have my own experience? make my own path ? 1dunno1

this is getting deep
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You are missing the Archon Metetron. Earth and all of creation are currently on a cyclical restart grandfather clock if you will. Archons were how the sweeps were accomplished for complete galaxy restart. Universe can only be created once it has been switched to a union of polar opposites.. that stuff kinda bore some.
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Jesus Christ taught after returning from India during the "lost years of Christ". ages 13-28.
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So did Jesus get to transcend this world? and Buddha also right?
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The only way to eternal life is through Jesus Christ! Everything else is counterfeit!


John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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Do not fear, do not desire anything. Appreciate the wonderful universe (though hidden from you), go with the flow in this mental state and I think you'll be just fine. headbang
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yep.. ohyeah
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TARDS!!

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Another important thing to note about this is that you cannot be NOW what you are yet to be in the future.

GROWTH, tends to be slow, and can take AGES for you to reach the maturity point where you can HANDLE goin out into hiperspace.

While you whine about being "enslaved" by "aliens", you don´t even understand what those actors are doing for yourself. You will, eventually. Leading that understanding to the trascendence of this prison like experience. Have faith in your nature, in destiny, in life, in everything. Say YES to all that there is. To go trough it all and suceed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56932791



I have a small understanding, it took two years of traveling a distance on a obe. I thought i wouldn't make it back. One night i made it to where we are from. Once there you will get the following

Im not coming back, this is my last circle in this closed loop reality.


"Whine about being enslaved". - no disrespect. - but ponder that as a truth for awhile as your growth lessons


Look up, out and within.... Trillions of stars and galaxies in this universe, billions of universes .... All swelling in limitless dimensions and you say we are to stay here and learn more....... Its a trap to make you believe it

Im done and nit coming back
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13617809


im not with you on that. Figures doesn´t matter, appearances, doesn´t matter, stars, universes, galaxies.... doesn´t matter, at all. That´s just all fancyness, landscapes, appearance, superficiality; not spirituality, at all. And you are here because, spiritualiy. To get out of here you need spirituality, not denial. Your mindset wont help your ego desires, after all, it´s not you who decides, but your soul if you need to keep yourself here until you are not desperate to see another galaxy.
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If all of that doesnt matter , what is this you love and desire..... you hold on to with such ego

Its all about the mind or intent or awarness...... Its not about the brain and the physical.....

It seems you need to keep coming back......... Your physical desires......

When you realize this yiu become free......

Wheb yiu go hyper as you say. A free mind and soul is not trapped by the physical desires, needs, hopes, ego, family ect


You need awarness
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You are missing the Archon Metetron. Earth and all of creation are currently on a cyclical restart grandfather clock if you will. Archons were how the sweeps were accomplished for complete galaxy restart. Universe can only be created once it has been switched to a union of polar opposites.. that stuff kinda bore some.
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so the restart is sooner than we think?
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Another important thing to note about this is that you cannot be NOW what you are yet to be in the future.

GROWTH, tends to be slow, and can take AGES for you to reach the maturity point where you can HANDLE goin out into hiperspace.

While you whine about being "enslaved" by "aliens", you don´t even understand what those actors are doing for yourself. You will, eventually. Leading that understanding to the trascendence of this prison like experience. Have faith in your nature, in destiny, in life, in everything. Say YES to all that there is. To go trough it all and suceed.
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Im done and nit coming back
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i don't want to come back either.. but maybe u might if they promise u worldy things u didn't get to experience in ur past life. haven't traveled the world? ok you get a new life that u will travel the world. didn't find the love of ur life? ok u get to have a new life were u will find one. etc. it's according to a theme and that is based on what u did not get to experience in ur previous life. like the AC already pointed out

many people have had nde and say that ur whole life will get reviewed. and i think they are correct. and u will get an evaluation. a grade so to speak. it's not totally up to you if u will come back to this world or not.
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I think if you think the above , then the above may be true for the thinker
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Look into Gnostic and/or New Age theories about Archons. They fit what you're describing.

You may read the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Bardo Thodol - it supposedly contains funerary rites which help the deceased transcend the post-death bardo (word for purgatory) you enter between reincarnations and escape the cycle.

Basically, don't go into the light
. cool2
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That's not the message of the Tibetan Book of the Dead though.... The message is one of conscious awareness - not an instruction to avoid all 'light'...
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC



for those interested - here's a 12 page pdf to wet your whistle. To see if it's something you wanna research further on your own.


[link to ftp.buddhism.org]


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Jesus Christ taught after returning from India during the "lost years of Christ". ages 13-28.
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So did Jesus get to transcend this world? and Buddha also right?
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I think yes, and they may come back whenever they want, but the time must be right.. They have so much conscious love for us and most importantly what is best for us, which for most people is horrible because they don't understand that this life is like a school, and cannot see the larger picture.
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Look into Gnostic and/or New Age theories about Archons. They fit what you're describing.

You may read the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Bardo Thodol - it supposedly contains funerary rites which help the deceased transcend the post-death bardo (word for purgatory) you enter between reincarnations and escape the cycle.

Basically, don't go into the light
. cool2
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That's not the message of the Tibetan Book of the Dead though.... The message is one of conscious awareness - not an instruction to avoid all 'light'...
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC



for those interested - here's a 12 page pdf to wet your whistle. To see if it's something you wanna research further on your own.


[link to ftp.buddhism.org]


bump1e
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thanks for that. will look into it. need to strap myself in for that one.
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Jesus Christ taught after returning from India during the "lost years of Christ". ages 13-28.
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So did Jesus get to transcend this world? and Buddha also right?
[/quote they don't understand that this life is like a school, and cannot see the larger picture.
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yes. true.. i just had the thought just now. that God Source Jesus. What label you choose. will ask you when you die. something along the ligns.

'how much did you love? what did you do for others? what did you learn'? :)
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Those aliens are babysitters, keeping your egomaniacs into this kindergarten until you mature. That´s the truth.
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true.. that why i am letting go of everything that is worldly.. and try to take the spiritual path... again there are so many path that are 'spiritual' but are traps aswell. so how do i know whick path to go by? or just have my own experience? make my own path ? 1dunno1

this is getting deep
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My opinion is to start with treating your body like a temple, knowledge is power so find out what is bad for you and what is good. Find out how the evil in this world is making you less conscious. Non-violence is a necessity.
Start playing dominoes with your habits. Tiny bits at a time you will wash away the dirt, and you will gain strength and clarity!. Yoga is a wonderful path, and its not just exercises. You can take pieces from all religions and create spiritual wholeness. Just do what you know is right in your heart, start uncovering your compassion, love & mindfulness and The rest will fall into place.
Willpower and concentration is very important, and the key to that is in your seed brother.
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Jesus Christ taught after returning from India during the "lost years of Christ". ages 13-28.
Compassion-Love-Mindfulness
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So did Jesus get to transcend this world? and Buddha also right?
[/quote they don't understand that this life is like a school, and cannot see the larger picture.
 Quoting: DoomGymRat


yes. true.. i just had the thought just now. that God Source Jesus. What label you choose. will ask you when you die. something along the ligns.

'how much did you love? what did you do for others? what did you learn'? :)
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Its not just what did you learn, I think that it is more about what did you do with all that you learned. Its not really up to them, it is up to you!
Gnight!
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interesting thread. bump for later.
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... Ya ... true ...
(OP) Many can quote from books, quote ideas, and give
their interpretation of the Here and How,,,
But congrats! your on
to your next level of hell ,,, hooray - It starts -oddly enuf--with all these in-experienced people
and putting up with these how too's and fear-based don'ts ---
... oh yah -- it gets deeper -- and You (OP) ,,,,
if theres consolation have gone deeper ....
This system was put in place by a "God" who is long gone, and then taken over by "alien" forces (actually interdimensional beings) who use it to keep us here in prison.Anonymous Coward
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