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CHRISTIANS...Say God is a Trinity and you believe the Bible do you ?

 
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Men say what makes God the one and only God is 3 co-equal persons and the 3 make "THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD"

Here is what the bible says and the Son of God says frim his own mouth to his God and Father.

John 17:3King James Version (KJV)

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


You say Hogwash! the 3 are 1 God.... who cares what Jesus said. We have men who are scholars that say otherwise and we will believe them over the his Bible.
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Men say what makes God the one and only God is 3 co-equal persons and the 3 make "THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD"

Here is what the bible says and the Son of God says frim his own mouth to his God and Father.

John 17:3King James Version (KJV)

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


You say Hogwash! the 3 are 1 God.... who cares what Jesus said. We have men who are scholars that say otherwise and we will believe them over the his Bible.
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Consider this:

1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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Men say what makes God the one and only God is 3 co-equal persons and the 3 make "THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD"

Here is what the bible says and the Son of God says frim his own mouth to his God and Father.

John 17:3King James Version (KJV)

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


You say Hogwash! the 3 are 1 God.... who cares what Jesus said. We have men who are scholars that say otherwise and we will believe them over the his Bible.
 Quoting: YOU BELIEVE FABLES OF MEN 61555135


Consider this:

1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49625335


Consider this... in John 5:7 last part of that " and these three are one was added years later from what was not in the original text. This is become common knowledge even from those who proclaim the trinity. Do your homework.

Also consider this.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

John 17

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

Now we know he was not praying that they become the one and only tru God now dont we...

It is eveident that anyone who knows how to read and comprehend that when Christ said him and the Father were one he was talking about IN UNITY/AGREEMENT

just as he prayed that we be one in them and with ourselves as Christians
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And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit

its simple if believe not Jesus own words , dont be His disciple
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Then I heard the Lord asking, "Whom should I send as a messenger to this people?

Who will go for us?"

I said, "Here I am. Send me."

The stone that the builders rejected
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So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who relies on it will never be stricken with panic.

"Then what is the meaning of that which is written: "'The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone'?

"Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.
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teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
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John 1 speaks of the Word and God (only 2), and this is before anything existed.
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Men say what makes God the one and only God is 3 co-equal persons and the 3 make "THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD"

Here is what the bible says and the Son of God says frim his own mouth to his God and Father.

John 17:3King James Version (KJV)

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


You say Hogwash! the 3 are 1 God.... who cares what Jesus said. We have men who are scholars that say otherwise and we will believe them over the his Bible.
 Quoting: YOU BELIEVE FABLES OF MEN 61555135


Consider this:

1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49625335


Consider this... in John 5:7 last part of that " and these three are one was added years later from what was not in the original text. This is become common knowledge even from those who proclaim the trinity. Do your homework.

Also consider this.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

John 17

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

Now we know he was not praying that they become the one and only tru God now dont we...

It is eveident that anyone who knows how to read and comprehend that when Christ said him and the Father were one he was talking about IN UNITY/AGREEMENT

just as he prayed that we be one in them and with ourselves as Christians
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bump this makes sence why Jesus said him and the father are one. I get it now
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So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who relies on it will never be stricken with panic.

"Then what is the meaning of that which is written: "'The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone'?

"Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.
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It is evident upon reading the Bible in full and comprending that which was read and written by the inspiration of the spirit of God ( Holy Spirit) that the. Sovereign is Jehovah GOD and the Cornerstone that the builders rejected is the SON, Lord Jesus christ of Jehovah God the Father.
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op get sent to his room? now he blames God? lol
we all like cake op,
we eat wheat, but first we grind it down into flour. (wink wink)
='s ^-.-^----~ I am []+[]
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op get sent to his room? now he blames God? lol
we all like cake op,
we eat wheat, but first we grind it down into flour. (wink wink)
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Now there is a well thought out, intellectual and scriptural response. response.
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Men say what makes God the one and only God is 3 co-equal persons and the 3 make "THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD"

Here is what the bible says and the Son of God says frim his own mouth to his God and Father.

John 17:3King James Version (KJV)

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


You say Hogwash! the 3 are 1 God.... who cares what Jesus said. We have men who are scholars that say otherwise and we will believe them over the his Bible.
 Quoting: YOU BELIEVE FABLES OF MEN 61555135


Consider this:

1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49625335


Consider this... in John 5:7 last part of that " and these three are one was added years later from what was not in the original text. This is become common knowledge even from those who proclaim the trinity. Do your homework.

Also consider this.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

John 17

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

Now we know he was not praying that they become the one and only tru God now dont we...

It is eveident that anyone who knows how to read and comprehend that when Christ said him and the Father were one he was talking about IN UNITY/AGREEMENT

just as he prayed that we be one in them and with ourselves as Christians
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61555135


Really? Says here he will be called The Everlasting Father, The Mighty God.



Isaiah 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace



Says here he is The Alpha and The Omega, The Almighty, the ones who pierced him.



Revelation 1:7-8

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7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
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Men say what makes God the one and only God is 3 co-equal persons and the 3 make "THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD"

Here is what the bible says and the Son of God says frim his own mouth to his God and Father.

John 17:3King James Version (KJV)

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


You say Hogwash! the 3 are 1 God.... who cares what Jesus said. We have men who are scholars that say otherwise and we will believe them over the his Bible.
 Quoting: YOU BELIEVE FABLES OF MEN 61555135


Consider this:

1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49625335


Consider this... in John 5:7 last part of that " and these three are one was added years later from what was not in the original text. This is become common knowledge even from those who proclaim the trinity. Do your homework.

Also consider this.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

John 17

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

Now we know he was not praying that they become the one and only tru God now dont we...

It is eveident that anyone who knows how to read and comprehend that when Christ said him and the Father were one he was talking about IN UNITY/AGREEMENT

just as he prayed that we be one in them and with ourselves as Christians
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61555135


Really? Says here he will be called The Everlasting Father, The Mighty God.



Isaiah 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace



Says here he is The Alpha and The Omega, The Almighty, the ones who pierced him.



Revelation 1:7-8

King James Version (KJV)

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
 Quoting: Oath


Oh .. you again. We have been through this before. Remember ?

The first scripture you just cited is in fact talking about christ and indeed is called " mighty god"

But the last verse you cited.. verse 8 in revelation 1 is not christ, but that is the Father, Jehovah.

You have difficulty reading and comprehending revelation chapter 7 verses 1-8 in context and instead of reading and comprehending, you read and imagine what you would like for it to have said.
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Part I: Evidence of the existence of Jesus Christ by Simon Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University. Dr. Greenleaf was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated: 
"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).

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"I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him."

~ Napoleon Bonaparte

"A man who was completely innocent, offered himself as a sacrifice for the good of others, including his enemies, and became the ransom of the world. It was a perfect act."

~ Mahatma Gandhi

"Fundamentally, our Lord's message was Himself. He did not come merely to preach a Gospel; He himself is that Gospel. He did not come merely to give bread; He said, "I am the bread." He did not come merely to shed light; He said, "I am the light." He did not come merely to show the door; He said, "I am the door." ...He did not come merely to point the way; He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life."

~ J. Sidlow

"For thirty five years of my life I was, in the proper acceptation of the word, nihilist, a man who believed in nothing. Five years ago my faith came to me. I believed in the doctrine of Jesus Christ and my whole life underwent a sudden transformation. Life and death ceased to be evil. Instead of despair, I tasted joy and happiness that death could not take away."

~ Leo Tolstoy

"Jesus is God spelling Himself out in language that men can understand."

~ S.D. Gordon

"Oh, eternal and everlasting God, direct my thoughts, words and work. Wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the lamb and purge my heart by the Holy Spirit. Daily, frame me more and more in the likeness of thy son, Jesus Christ, that living in thy fear, and dying in thy favor, I may in thy appointed time obtain the resurrection of the justified unto eternal life. Bless, O Lord, the whole race of mankind and let the world be filled with the knowledge of thy son, Jesus Christ."

~ George Washington, 1st President of the United States

"In praise of Thy goodness I must confess that Thou didst try with all Thy means to draw me to Thee. Sometimes it pleased Thee to let me feel the heavy hand of Thy displeasure and to humiliate my proud heart by manifold castigations. Sickness and misfortune didst Thou send upon me to turn my thoughts to my errantries. - One thing, only, O Father, do I ask: cease not to labor for my betterment. In whatsoever manner it be, let me turn to Thee and become fruitful in good works."

~ Ludwig van Beethoven

"...I live with God ever before me. I recognize His omnipotence, I fear His anger; I acknowledge His love, too, His compassion and mercy towards all His creatures; He will never desert those who serve Him."

~ Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

"I believe there is no one deeper, lovelier, more sympathetic and more perfect than Jesus - not only is there no one else like him, there never could be anyone like him."

~ Fyodor Dostoevsky

"Socrates taught for 40 years, Plato for 50, Aristotle for 40, and Jesus for only 3. Yet the influence of Christ's 3-year ministry infinitely transcends the impact left by the combined 130 years of teaching from these men who were among the greatest philosophers of all antiquity."

~ Unknown

"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

~ Albert Einstein

"Despite our efforts to keep him out, God intrudes. The life of Jesus is bracketed by two impossibilities: 'a virgin's womb and an empty tomb'.

Jesus entered our world through a door marked, 'No Entrance' and left through a door marked 'No Exit.'

~ Peter Larson

"People talk about imitating Christ, and imitate Him in the little trifling formal things, such as washing the feet, saying His prayer, and so on; but if anyone attempts the real imitation of Him, there are no bounds to the outcry with which the presumption of that person is condemned."

~ Florence Nightingale, British nursing hero of the Crimean War (1820 -1910)

Buddha never claimed to be God.

Moses never claimed to be Jehovah.

Mohammed never claimed to be Allah.

Yet Jesus Christ claimed to be the true and living God.

Buddha simply said, 'I am a teacher in search of the truth.'

Jesus said, 'I am the Truth.'

Confucius said, 'I never claimed to be holy.'

Jesus said, 'Who convicts me of sin?'

Mohammed said, 'Unless God throws his cloak of mercy over me, I have no hope.'

Jesus said, 'Unless you believe in me, you will die in your sins.'"
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"I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him."

~ Napoleon Bonaparte

"A man who was completely innocent, offered himself as a sacrifice for the good of others, including his enemies, and became the ransom of the world. It was a perfect act."

~ Mahatma Gandhi

"Fundamentally, our Lord's message was Himself. He did not come merely to preach a Gospel; He himself is that Gospel. He did not come merely to give bread; He said, "I am the bread." He did not come merely to shed light; He said, "I am the light." He did not come merely to show the door; He said, "I am the door." ...He did not come merely to point the way; He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life."

~ J. Sidlow

"For thirty five years of my life I was, in the proper acceptation of the word, nihilist, a man who believed in nothing. Five years ago my faith came to me. I believed in the doctrine of Jesus Christ and my whole life underwent a sudden transformation. Life and death ceased to be evil. Instead of despair, I tasted joy and happiness that death could not take away."

~ Leo Tolstoy

"Jesus is God spelling Himself out in language that men can understand."

~ S.D. Gordon

"Oh, eternal and everlasting God, direct my thoughts, words and work. Wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the lamb and purge my heart by the Holy Spirit. Daily, frame me more and more in the likeness of thy son, Jesus Christ, that living in thy fear, and dying in thy favor, I may in thy appointed time obtain the resurrection of the justified unto eternal life. Bless, O Lord, the whole race of mankind and let the world be filled with the knowledge of thy son, Jesus Christ."

~ George Washington, 1st President of the United States

"In praise of Thy goodness I must confess that Thou didst try with all Thy means to draw me to Thee. Sometimes it pleased Thee to let me feel the heavy hand of Thy displeasure and to humiliate my proud heart by manifold castigations. Sickness and misfortune didst Thou send upon me to turn my thoughts to my errantries. - One thing, only, O Father, do I ask: cease not to labor for my betterment. In whatsoever manner it be, let me turn to Thee and become fruitful in good works."

~ Ludwig van Beethoven

"...I live with God ever before me. I recognize His omnipotence, I fear His anger; I acknowledge His love, too, His compassion and mercy towards all His creatures; He will never desert those who serve Him."

~ Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

"I believe there is no one deeper, lovelier, more sympathetic and more perfect than Jesus - not only is there no one else like him, there never could be anyone like him."

~ Fyodor Dostoevsky

"Socrates taught for 40 years, Plato for 50, Aristotle for 40, and Jesus for only 3. Yet the influence of Christ's 3-year ministry infinitely transcends the impact left by the combined 130 years of teaching from these men who were among the greatest philosophers of all antiquity."

~ Unknown

"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

~ Albert Einstein

"Despite our efforts to keep him out, God intrudes. The life of Jesus is bracketed by two impossibilities: 'a virgin's womb and an empty tomb'.

Jesus entered our world through a door marked, 'No Entrance' and left through a door marked 'No Exit.'

~ Peter Larson

"People talk about imitating Christ, and imitate Him in the little trifling formal things, such as washing the feet, saying His prayer, and so on; but if anyone attempts the real imitation of Him, there are no bounds to the outcry with which the presumption of that person is condemned."

~ Florence Nightingale, British nursing hero of the Crimean War (1820 -1910)

Buddha never claimed to be God.

Moses never claimed to be Jehovah.

Mohammed never claimed to be Allah.

Yet Jesus Christ claimed to be the true and living God.

Buddha simply said, 'I am a teacher in search of the truth.'

Jesus said, 'I am the Truth.'

Confucius said, 'I never claimed to be holy.'

Jesus said, 'Who convicts me of sin?'

Mohammed said, 'Unless God throws his cloak of mercy over me, I have no hope.'

Jesus said, 'Unless you believe in me, you will die in your sins.'"
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There you go, leaning on the understanding and imaginations of men, rather than the inspired word of God and his son Christ Jesus.
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Consider this:

1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Consider this... in John 5:7 last part of that " and these three are one was added years later from what was not in the original text. This is become common knowledge even from those who proclaim the trinity. Do your homework.

Also consider this.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

John 17

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

Now we know he was not praying that they become the one and only tru God now dont we...

It is eveident that anyone who knows how to read and comprehend that when Christ said him and the Father were one he was talking about IN UNITY/AGREEMENT

just as he prayed that we be one in them and with ourselves as Christians
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Really? Says here he will be called The Everlasting Father, The Mighty God.



Isaiah 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace



Says here he is The Alpha and The Omega, The Almighty, the ones who pierced him.



Revelation 1:7-8

King James Version (KJV)

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
 Quoting: Oath


Oh .. you again. We have been through this before. Remember ?

The first scripture you just cited is in fact talking about christ and indeed is called " mighty god"

But the last verse you cited.. verse 8 in revelation 1 is not christ, but that is the Father, Jehovah.

You have difficulty reading and comprehending revelation chapter 7 verses 1-8 in context and instead of reading and comprehending, you read and imagine what you would like for it to have said.
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Wow, contradiction much. You did confirm the validity of Isaiah, it says The Everlasting Father as well.

Yeah, foot in mouth much?
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Re: CHRISTIANS...Say God is a Trinity and you believe the Bible do you ?
You are quoting KJV. Not the true Bible, but one according to King James. If King Obama authorized a Bible would you use it? You're using one from the middle ages authorized by a king who had an agenda. And you rely on it as the truth? It is full of errors & heresies but you believe that King James, a political leader's version of the Bible is the truth? I got a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you... lol.
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Re: CHRISTIANS...Say God is a Trinity and you believe the Bible do you ?
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Consider this... in John 5:7 last part of that " and these three are one was added years later from what was not in the original text. This is become common knowledge even from those who proclaim the trinity. Do your homework.

Also consider this.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

John 17

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

Now we know he was not praying that they become the one and only tru God now dont we...

It is eveident that anyone who knows how to read and comprehend that when Christ said him and the Father were one he was talking about IN UNITY/AGREEMENT

just as he prayed that we be one in them and with ourselves as Christians
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61555135


Really? Says here he will be called The Everlasting Father, The Mighty God.



Isaiah 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace



Says here he is The Alpha and The Omega, The Almighty, the ones who pierced him.



Revelation 1:7-8

King James Version (KJV)

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
 Quoting: Oath


Oh .. you again. We have been through this before. Remember ?

The first scripture you just cited is in fact talking about christ and indeed is called " mighty god"

But the last verse you cited.. verse 8 in revelation 1 is not christ, but that is the Father, Jehovah.

You have difficulty reading and comprehending revelation chapter 7 verses 1-8 in context and instead of reading and comprehending, you read and imagine what you would like for it to have said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61555135


Wow, contradiction much. You did confirm the validity of Isaiah, it says The Everlasting Father as well.

Yeah, foot in mouth much?
 Quoting: Oath


Do you think much ?

There is a distinct difference in the passage of Isaiah and that of revelation.

While Jesus is known as the everlasting Father because it is Jesus that created ALL things that were created AFTER his Father Jehovah created him.

That does NOT make Jesus the ALMIGHTY... it makes him " mighty god"

look, makes no diffrence if you like to twist and interpet and insert doctrine that is just simply not there. The truth remains the truth.

You deny what is written in the word of God, because you would rather believe the imaginatiin of men.
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Re: CHRISTIANS...Say God is a Trinity and you believe the Bible do you ?
You are quoting KJV. Not the true Bible, but one according to King James. If King Obama authorized a Bible would you use it? You're using one from the middle ages authorized by a king who had an agenda. And you rely on it as the truth? It is full of errors & heresies but you believe that King James, a political leader's version of the Bible is the truth? I got a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you... lol.
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I agree KJV is a version that was influanced by the church of England and has error. That being said However, the most part of it is accurate when read in context and unerstanding the termanoligy of KJV inthat era and cross referencing with more accurate tranlastions.

Either way... The trinity doctrine does not scripturaly exist in any version.

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