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Anonymous Coward User ID: 512778 United States 08/18/2014 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speculation buddy. You heard Crump SPECULATE that after the doc was done talking and now you're here to repeat it. He's a lawyer, he's paid to tell stories. Quoting: FritoBandito No, I got that from the Autopsy. How does a bullet enter your eye, go through your chin, and land in your throat if you are standing taller than the shooter? It doesn't happen. He was on his knees, probably looking at the wounds in his arm, and the cop gave him 2 in the head. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 512778 United States 08/18/2014 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I once saw a guy take 3 shots center mass 5.56 run past the shooter and then eat 4 9mm...2 center mass, 1 to the shoulder, and 1 to the neck. He ran by that shooter and collapsed 3 feet past the 2nd shooter. Total distance traveled after the first round hit him... Appx. 25feet. Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST Adrenalin is some crazy shit. It certainly is, but you don't see that with head shots. |
AR 15-SPECIALIST Admit it! We’re Fucked User ID: 61137991 United States 08/18/2014 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3327691 I wasn't arguing momentum. I was arguing the bullshit analysis of the OP that stated: the faster a person runs, the further in front of his center of mass his center of gravity will be. which is nonsensical. Which means his analysis is nonsensical since he draws conclusions from it. As for falling front or back, Brown could easily fall front or back, or to the side, depending on how his body weight was at the moment of death/immobility and he could easily be standing, walking, stepping back or running. As for momentum, yes, that's true. Had Brown been 'charging' the officer then he most definitely would fall forward. Then you would need to ask why is the body in such a 'normal' prone position. If 290lbs was charging 'with some speed' you would expect to see the body in a contorted position or clothes disheveled as he fell dead weight at speed. Unfortunately the OP analysis neglects this fact and makes up bullshit statements. You were seizing on one incorrect phrasing that OP made to discredit his argument. Yes center of gravity = center of mass in standard usage. What he obviously meant is that a the center of gravity is forward of the location of contact with the ground, and also the momentum (restrained at the feet by friction to the ground) will cause a rotation where the top of the body rotates forward from the feet. I am an engineer, and I understood his meaning immediately even though he didn't say it quite right. his argument was discredited because it was bullshit, just like yours. You are NOT an engineer with that feeble attempt. That is NOT what he meant and NOT what he said, just as saying your TRICEPS would be facing forward with your hands up which would only occur in some cartoonish hands directly over your head, which is unlikely. His analysis was discredited because it was crap. IF you were an engineer, which you are obviously NOT you would have been half as smart as someone else was to differentiate between center of gravity and momentum/velocity. The center of gravity is constant. It is in the same spot all the time. Aside from the start a persons foot will be directly UNDER the center of gravity or the person would fall over. Think of a wheel. Your feet are essentially acting as a wheel, and yes, friction and your leg MUSCLES propel you forward, not falling over. YOU are NOT an ENGINEER The analysis was shit. No, the foot need not always be directly under the c.g., in fact as was pointed out, when walking the c.g. is usually not directly over one foot or the other, and one is falling a little bit, but one accelerates for a short time and doesn't accumulate much velocity or rotational rate, before that's corrected in the other direction. When running one can lean forward and then one is not over one's feet even on the average. Think of a sprinter accelerating off the blocks. He's leaned way forward, but he doesn't fall on his face. How is that possible?? Well, because the running action pushes his feet forward, that force at his feet creating a counterclockwise (looking from his right side) torque about his c.g. that roughly balances the clockwise torque about his c.g. caused by his weight. I did not equate c.g. with momentum, nor velocity. I am an engineer. Have a nice life. The only time I've seen some fall backward while running/walking and being shot was when an Apache Helio opens up with its M230.... Then it's like being picked up and thrown. TRUMPS FAULT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60275215 United States 08/18/2014 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I once saw a guy take 3 shots center mass 5.56 run past the shooter and then eat 4 9mm...2 center mass, 1 to the shoulder, and 1 to the neck. He ran by that shooter and collapsed 3 feet past the 2nd shooter. Total distance traveled after the first round hit him... Appx. 25feet. Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST Adrenalin is some crazy shit. It certainly is, but you don't see that with head shots. Head shots need brainstem impacts to drop em. Frontal lobe is not brainstem. |
Philligan in rainbows User ID: 58112030 United States 08/18/2014 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ex special forces, and make my living as a firearms instructor. I've been teaching people how to shoot for over 2 decades. Sure you are tard.. He's posted on here before I believe him Why does no one on GLP believe anyone on here is more than an idiot? It's kind of sad Pray for Us Sinners Now and at the Hour of our Death |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20560530 United States 08/18/2014 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a video that nobody wanted. I am glad it was released because it showed what a fine young man fell that day, and a few other things as well. No, the problem is that the black community keeps lionizing these thugs when they run into trouble with white people. Let us know when a decent black fellow runs into this sort of problem, ok? |
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FritoBandito User ID: 40514864 United States 08/19/2014 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Speculation buddy. You heard Crump SPECULATE that after the doc was done talking and now you're here to repeat it. He's a lawyer, he's paid to tell stories. Quoting: FritoBandito No, I got that from the Autopsy. How does a bullet enter your eye, go through your chin, and land in your throat if you are standing taller than the shooter? It doesn't happen. He was on his knees, probably looking at the wounds in his arm, and the cop gave him 2 in the head. The cops, as dumb and jackboot retarded as they are in general, know the ramifications of killing a black man and being white at the same time. Why would he execute a black guy in the middle of the projects? Answer: he wouldn't. Stop playing victim and acting like this kid was anything besides a directionless loser, raping and stealing his way to prison. He apparently thought he could dodge bullets, too. |