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The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...

 
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Many 20 an hour walk on jobs






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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I don't buy the 'tormented soul' bullshit. If you can't deal with life without getting high, you're just a pussy.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Oh yeah...

Let's see you walk up to your wife, hand her a paint brush and a bucket of paint and see if you can command HER to paint the house.

Hahahaha

You are clueless.
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I don't buy the 'tormented soul' bullshit. If you can't deal with life without getting high, you're just a pussy.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Using an anti inflammatory drug which improves bone and joint health may help prevent back injuries sounds more like common sense for heavy laborers, than something mystical.

If anything, the insurance companies should be encouraging its use as a nutritional supplement, if they would like to avoid all those long term payouts for knee injuries.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Cannabinoids have been reported to have anti-inflammatory effects and reduce joint damage in animal models of arthritis

There is no more palatable way of preventing long term injury. Worker compliance would certainly be....high.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I don't buy the 'tormented soul' bullshit. If you can't deal with life without getting high, you're just a pussy.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Oh yeah...

Let's see you walk up to your wife, hand her a paint brush and a bucket of paint and see if you can command HER to paint the house.

Hahahaha

You are clueless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504498


WTF are you blabbering about?

I don't 'command' my wife or anyone else to do anything.

People whom may be painting my house are only doing so because we've agreed to terms.

I give them "X" compensation for them providing "Y" service.

My wife only cooks my breakfast because she wants to cook my breakfast.

You'd know this if you'd ever spent more than 10 minutes with an actual woman.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
tounge You are why I like GLP.
I have a self owned business that I run. I run background checks and do drug tests and I don't hire illegals.
Just posting facts from trying to hire good workers.
BTW, You will make 8 bucks an hour working for me the first 90 days (so. I can see what you are about) then your pay jumps to 11 an hour and then 16 an hour after 1 year.
So go suck an egg ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57716957


Honestly you're a retard. Your thread title is even wrong. There are hardly any jobs out there period. And if you actually run your own business and act that way you are a real cocksucker to work for. Thanks for contributing to the problem. Go generate some more demon dollars.
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Anyone who doesn't hire illegals is good in my book.
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Insurance is such a good method of control, look at insurance for gun shows.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Your point is unclear to me. Do you want more stoned people buying guns?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


You realize you can fail a drug test without being stoned?
 Quoting: Nerve03


Yup, and I also realize that it's no longer 1985, and the chances of that are very remote. Big Business (Insurance Companies) has become just as sophisticated as potheads.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


On the one hand you have average normal decent people just trying to find some way to bear the burden of life, after...

Organized Jewish Criminals such as those who run those INSURANCE COMPANIES you love so much, turn it into a money making venture benefitting THEM and them ALONE...

Guess I'll side with the pot heads. AGAIN.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I don't buy the 'tormented soul' bullshit. If you can't deal with life without getting high, you're just a pussy.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Using an anti inflammatory drug which improves bone and joint health may help prevent back injuries sounds more like common sense for heavy laborers, than something mystical.

If anything, the insurance companies should be encouraging its use as a nutritional supplement, if they would like to avoid all those long term payouts for knee injuries.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Cannabinoids have been reported to have anti-inflammatory effects and reduce joint damage in animal models of arthritis

There is no more palatable way of preventing long term injury. Worker compliance would certainly be....high.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Like I said, I don't give a fuck if you wanna smoke a joint when you get home.

But, if you slip off a ladder on my jobsite, and you test positive, that's between you, the insurance company, and the gubmint.

I didn't make the laws.

I'm not paying your disability just because you think you should be able to get high and fall off my ladder anytime you like.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I didn't make the laws.

 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Actually, you do, its your government. Don't be apathetic, its what they want.

Some companies are pushing for different testing standards:

Unlike dangerous drugs, cannabis can be part of a healthy lifestyle that promotes wellness," Mitchem said. "We always encourage consumers to use cannabis responsibly, and, as such, we have implemented a stringent drug policy for our own employees. O.penVAPE understands that, as the largest brand in the cannabis industry, our view holds weight -- and our view is simple: we won't tolerate dangerous drug use by our employees."
[link to www.tokeofthetown.com]
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
And again, if I must spell it out more clearly, I believe that marijuana should be just as legal as alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco.

But, if your dumbass rips 6 bong hits before work and then falls off a roof, that's on you.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I passed both. Then again I have a Masters degree in Political Science. A lot of good that did me. I work for a AG company in Iowa. They take 553 dollars a check, every week. I can barely pay for my corvette, internet, and house. F the government.

Let me guess. You spent 15,000 dollars at state and thought that would be enough. Well I got news for you. A 100,000 Dollar education doesn't mean a 100,000 dollar job. Comprede? I suggest you learn spanish.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
And again, if I must spell it out more clearly, I believe that marijuana should be just as legal as alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco.

But, if your dumbass rips 6 bong hits before work and then falls off a roof, that's on you.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Blood pressure problems are a frequent cause of falls, unfortunately blood pressure screening is less common than drug screening.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I didn't make the laws.

 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Actually, you do, its your government. Don't be apathetic, its what they want.

Some companies are pushing for different testing standards:

Unlike dangerous drugs, cannabis can be part of a healthy lifestyle that promotes wellness," Mitchem said. "We always encourage consumers to use cannabis responsibly, and, as such, we have implemented a stringent drug policy for our own employees. O.penVAPE understands that, as the largest brand in the cannabis industry, our view holds weight -- and our view is simple: we won't tolerate dangerous drug use by our employees."
[link to www.tokeofthetown.com]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


It is my government, and I am hardly apathetic.

One of the few things about my government of which I still approve is the fact that it has not taken away my right to employ whom I want.

It is close, though.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
And again, if I must spell it out more clearly, I believe that marijuana should be just as legal as alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco.

But, if your dumbass rips 6 bong hits before work and then falls off a roof, that's on you.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Blood pressure problems are a frequent cause of falls, unfortunately blood pressure screening is less common than drug screening.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Ahhh, so we should implement more regulations?
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I passed both. Then again I have a Masters degree in Political Science. A lot of good that did me. I work for a AG company in Iowa. They take 553 dollars a check, every week. I can barely pay for my corvette, internet, and house. F the government.

Let me guess. You spent 15,000 dollars at state and thought that would be enough. Well I got news for you. A 100,000 Dollar education doesn't mean a 100,000 dollar job. Comprede? I suggest you learn spanish.
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clappa
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Ahhh, so we should implement more regulations?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


The point being that our current regulations are irrational and not based on science. They do nothing to protect you, the small business owner, from real risks and hazards, but instead blow and bend before the wind of moral panic.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
tounge You are why I like GLP.
I have a self owned business that I run. I run background checks and do drug tests and I don't hire illegals.
Just posting facts from trying to hire good workers.
BTW, You will make 8 bucks an hour working for me the first 90 days (so. I can see what you are about) then your pay jumps to 11 an hour and then 16 an hour after 1 year.
So go suck an egg ....
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So your top pay is $16/hr.?

That sucks.

32K/year is pretty much a poverty wage.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
Ahhh, so we should implement more regulations?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


The point being that our current regulations are irrational and not based on science. They do nothing to protect you, the small business owner, from real risks and hazards, but instead blow and bend before the wind of moral panic.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


That's where you are wrong. But, you'd know that if you'd ever actually run a business and had some slacker piece of shit try to sue you for his dumbassery.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
That's where you are wrong. But, you'd know that if you'd ever actually run a business and had some slacker piece of shit try to sue you for his dumbassery.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


I have been sued by employee. Who was completely sober and simply liked to milk workman's comp. His wife faked a fall at Walmart later, it was a family tradition.
Thinking weeding out pot heads is enough can give an employer a false sense of security, as well.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
I don't buy the 'tormented soul' bullshit. If you can't deal with life without getting high, you're just a pussy.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


fuck off

I get high because I like it.

ET you used to be ok before the weeding out thing,purge and subsequent removal as mod.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
Ahhh, so we should implement more regulations?
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


The point being that our current regulations are irrational and not based on science. They do nothing to protect you, the small business owner, from real risks and hazards, but instead blow and bend before the wind of moral panic.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I pay more in employee insurance than I do for my daughter who is dying. I am required by the state to produce, and validate insurance. I would love to tell them to suck it. God knows I want to. But when the police are the military, its kinda hard.

If i wish one thing. Its that my daughter was raised in a police free state. Make your choices and live with them. NO one there to arrest, or downgrade what she/he is doing.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
The love of drugs is the one great weakness of many GLPers. They are open-minded and free-thinking in most things, but if you dare suggest that their beloved marijuana makes you lazy and slow-witted they will start shrieking and howling worse than a university-professor with a hair up his ass about the transgression of some unwritten politically correct commandment.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
That's where you are wrong. But, you'd know that if you'd ever actually run a business and had some slacker piece of shit try to sue you for his dumbassery.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


I have been sued by employee. Who was completely sober and simply liked to milk workman's comp. His wife faked a fall at Walmart later, it was a family tradition.
Thinking weeding out pot heads is enough can give an employer a false sense of security, as well.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


That's your deal.

I said, "Drug, Criminal, and Financial checks".
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
The love of drugs is the one great weakness of many GLPers. They are open-minded and free-thinking in most things, but if you dare suggest that their beloved marijuana makes you lazy and slow-witted they will start shrieking and howling worse than a university-professor with a hair up his ass about the transgression of some unwritten politically correct commandment.
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Because I have seen this plant save lives. And ease the pain of the dying. To deny it to humanity is simply evil.

Evil is bad, m'kay?
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I don't buy the 'tormented soul' bullshit. If you can't deal with life without getting high, you're just a pussy.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


fuck off

I get high because I like it.

ET you used to be ok before the weeding out thing,purge and subsequent removal as mod.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24124419


I don't care why or if you get high.

If you can't not get high long enough to piss clean, I will not give you a job.

Last Edited by Evil_Twin on 08/25/2014 05:25 AM
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^showing what an absolutely pointless waste of money drug testing is, since most people just pee clean to get the job.

Insurance companies mandating morality, with no indication that recreational cannabis use has any effect on job performance.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
tounge You are why I like GLP.
I have a self owned business that I run. I run background checks and do drug tests and I don't hire illegals.
Just posting facts from trying to hire good workers.
BTW, You will make 8 bucks an hour working for me the first 90 days (so. I can see what you are about) then your pay jumps to 11 an hour and then 16 an hour after 1 year.
So go suck an egg ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57716957


I need a job bro...going through a divorce. Have had "steady income" since 2008.

Most days I feel like my business degree is useless. I don't drink or smoke and weed has never touched these lips but the jobs aren't there.

This has been a rough 6 years. Thankfully never ended up on food stamps.

Times are still hard. A job for $12-$15 an hour would be great.
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haven't had steady income
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
^showing what an absolutely pointless waste of money drug testing is, since most people just pee clean to get the job.

Insurance companies mandating morality, with no indication that recreational cannabis use has any effect on job performance.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I'm no insurance company, and morality has nothing to do with the matter.

The law does.

I don't have to like all the laws, but I must obey them to give you a legitimate job that doesn't land both of us in prison.
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
Many 20 an hour walk on jobs






In public sector
 Quoting: Astral Goat


ohyeah
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Re: The jobs are out there, but most people under 35 can't pass a background or drug test ...
OK, fuck it, I just wanna get blazed and serve coffee for $25 an hour.





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