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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61606221  United States08/25/2014 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it even worth it anymore to waste energy and emotion on this bullshit we have no control over any way you slice it? Over and over again its the same thing! Babies in incubators thrown on the floor! Weapons of Mass destruction. A guy in a cave. Gulf of Tonkin. Foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor. Major General Smedley Butler said it best: [link to www.ratical.org] What if anything has changed in the many years since he wrote this??? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62129328  Romania08/25/2014 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISIS is not funded by USA, but by Russia, just like the Chechens fighting in Ukraine. ISIS commander is a Chechen! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62127486 Omar al-Shishani has become the most recognisable commander of Isis terror group Omar al-Shishani, one of hundreds of Chechens who have been among the toughest jihadi fighters in Syria, has emerged as the face of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, appearing frequently in its online videos. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Rising Star of ISIS Has Chechen Background and Fierce Reputation ... [link to www.nbcnews.com]   Russians and Chechens don't like each other at all. Putin fought a huge war there a decade ago. The Chechens were all thanking America for their uniforms and weapons. Saw it on a British documentary about the civil war there. Chechen Islamic fighters are essentially mercenaries. They'll fight for whoever now so the us is is their biggest employers. There's so much disinformation in this thread it's making my head spin. If ISIL attacks the US Hanoi McCain Zbig Brzezinski and john Kerry should be arrested. Now Chechen mercenaries are under Putin's command, he pays them really well! Ramzan Akhmadovich Kadyrov is the Head of the Chechen Republic and a former Chechen rebel. He has the support of current Russian President Vladimir Putin and was awarded the Hero of Russia medal, the highest honorary title of Russia. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56113366  Norway08/25/2014 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If ISIL attacks the US Hanoi McCain Zbig Brzezinski and john Kerry should be arrested. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14620252 At the current time it would be close to pointless for IS to attack the US as it would only serve to stall the progress in their current core areas. The same is the case for Israel, where the IS has said they are not strong enough yet to take on Israel. What we may see both in the US and Europe is much more unrest caused by IS supporters, government clampdown on these and clashes between IS supporters and the general population. This could very well turn violent in some cases, but not as an attack on a general country. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62129328 Romania08/25/2014 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What has Russia got to do with this? Quoting: Gavin ISIS is Islam showing it's true nature and this caliphate is something they have all had wet dreams about since 1924 when the last caliphate was abolished. In the poll incidentally the Egyptian government thinks ISIS is funded by Qatar and Turkey. Which is pretty close IMHO. You must be joking! Why would Qatar and Turkey fund an organization led by a Chechen? Where the leader currently is from is irrelevant as long as he is a devout muslim supporting the cause and sharia. According to a local, vocal group supporting IS, true Islam does not recognize country borders. Qatar is a well known funder of international terrorism, but what exactly their motivation is can be better explained by others. In the poll, quite a few of the arabic governments pointed to Qatar as a primary source of funding for IS. When it comes to Turkey, Turkey had ambitions to join the EU, but has repeatedly been turned down for multiple reasons, and has therefore turned the focus of their ambitions elsewhere. By supporting IS, the can get rid of their Kurdish problem (Kurdistan as a separate national state), and their currently leadership is fast taking the country in a much more Islamic direction. If you look at the maps IS has published over the (desired) extent of their caliphate, it quite closely match the maximum extent of the Ottoman empire, and it would be natural for Turkey to want to regain this reach now they are out in the cold by the EU. There also recently surfaced reports that the WH and the Turkish government no longer speak to each other. Calls from the WH not being returned. This may very well have to do with the weapons the US supplied to FSA ending up in the hands of IS, and the virtually open border that has existed between Turkey and IS controlled territory. Turkey allegedly has helped IS sell the oil produced in occupied territories also, thereby indirectly helping IS financially. The Assad government also thinks Turkey is a main sponsor of IS, where they have said in a statement by the foreign minister "They (IS) are welcomes on red carpet in Turkey." ISIS has special relations with the Syrian government's mukhabarat—intelligence agency—and its bases within Syria are exempt from being targeted by the Syrian air force under the condition that ISIS continues to pump oil to army installations from oilfields that they have captured.[294] The Syrian government did not begin to fight ISIS until June 2014 despite its having a presence in Syria since April 2013, according to Kurdish officials. [link to en.wikipedia.org] ISIS is a Russian sponsored organization that is actually in friendly relations with Assad! Here's how ISIS got covertly armed by the Syrian army: they attacked 3 regiments and "defeated" them within 3 days (sic!) and took all their weapons! FiSyria, a website close to Russian-speaking fighters in the Islamic State (IS) has published a claimed announcement from Umar Shishani regarding IS’s position in Hasaka and the capture of Regiment 121, a major Assad military installation. Message from Abu Umar Al-Shishani: The military base is located on a large territory five kilometers south of the city Hasaka. It consists of three regiments: - Artillery Regiment - Mortar Regiment - Rocket Regiment The operation began on the night of 27 Ramadan. Having seen the names of the regiments, you can imagine what the Mujahideen faced. During the fighting in the first and third day half of the territory was taken completely, including the artillery and mortar regiments, the surroundings of the rocket regiment was taken, military commanders were killed. [link to www.chechensinsyria.com] The "killed" commanders are probably among the leaders if ISIS now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61524436  United Kingdom08/25/2014 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seeing many of ISIS come from the West and have rejected our values and are ungrateful for the opportunities offered them here. It is inevitable that given the chance they will strike the West. I asked on here at the time what would happen to all the American gear that they were planning to leave behind in Iraq? Well know we know. It was obviously a bad idea if the intention was peace . If this was left deliberately to arm ISIS you really need to reassess your intelligence people. ISIS seem prepared to spread wherever they can. It was silly to start the fracas in Ukraine . I expect Russia would have been a good ally. But no. Someone reverted to greed and the cold war scenario . So last century. Anyone with an ounce of sensitivity can feel the start of great changes for the new century. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56113366 Norway08/25/2014 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must not confuse Russian-speaking fighters with Russian support. It is well know there are a substantial number of IS fighters from Russian speaking areas who are muslims, and supports the cause (or in many cases are hired hands). These have nothing with the Putin regime to do. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61033864 United States08/25/2014 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The American public is continually left in the dark, and or remain willfully ignorant to the foreign affairs rolling around the globe. Keep watching race baiters like Al Sharpless and your favorite sports team. Hey! Football season is just around the corner. |
Lil Sis  User ID: 11213558 United States08/25/2014 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think ISIS is just a television image revamp of Al Queda, and the Muslim Brotherhood, but still run by all the same people (Saudi Arabia, USA, Britain, and Israel). Quoting: Saddletramp No one had ever fucking heard of ISIS three months ago, now they are the single deadliest, largest, weaponized, and well funded terrorist organization the world has ever seen. So why did we need a new and improved enemy? Because they know the American People were sick and fucking tired of war and hearing about Al Queda, when most objective and informed people already knew it was all a CIA creation and we were fully in bed with them in Libya, Tunisia, and Syria... Bin Laden is dead, and they needed a new and even more frightening face for Global Terrorism. So here comes ISIS, storming the castle like the propaganda barbarians they are paid to be, but how do they get a war weary public in the USA to back another adventure in the Middle East? 9/11 ring any bells? The boogieman comin', time to open your wallets and give up your freedoms... Well stated! It's deja vu all over again, time to get a new script writer. This plot line is getting so stale. It is like that OH Look, This Thread Again meme. ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
| Lil Sis User ID: 11213558 United States08/25/2014 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SIGH . . . . Quoting: Little bird Is it even worth it anymore to waste energy and emotion on this bullshit we have no control over any way you slice it? Over and over again its the same thing! Babies in incubators thrown on the floor! Weapons of Mass destruction. A guy in a cave. Gulf of Tonkin. Foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor. Major General Smedley Butler said it best: [link to www.ratical.org] What if anything has changed in the many years since he wrote this??? You forgot the Belgian nuns..... ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61974406 United States08/25/2014 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62129328 Romania08/25/2014 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must not confuse Russian-speaking fighters with Russian support. It is well know there are a substantial number of IS fighters from Russian speaking areas who are muslims, and supports the cause (or in many cases are hired hands). These have nothing with the Putin regime to do. Are you kidding? Kadirov, the leader of Chechenia got the highest Russian medal from Putin and putin let thousands of Chechens pass THROUGH RUSSIA in oder to enter Ukraine and fight for Russia there! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56113366 Norway08/25/2014 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must not confuse Russian-speaking fighters with Russian support. It is well know there are a substantial number of IS fighters from Russian speaking areas who are muslims, and supports the cause (or in many cases are hired hands). These have nothing with the Putin regime to do. Are you kidding? Kadirov, the leader of Chechenia got the highest Russian medal from Putin and putin let thousands of Chechens pass THROUGH RUSSIA in oder to enter Ukraine and fight for Russia there! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14620252 United States08/25/2014 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If ISIL attacks the US Hanoi McCain Zbig Brzezinski and john Kerry should be arrested. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14620252 At the current time it would be close to pointless for IS to attack the US as it would only serve to stall the progress in their current core areas. The same is the case for Israel, where the IS has said they are not strong enough yet to take on Israel. What we may see both in the US and Europe is much more unrest caused by IS supporters, government clampdown on these and clashes between IS supporters and the general population. This could very well turn violent in some cases, but not as an attack on a general country. Is supporters should be targeted and eliminated with extreme prejudice. Deport their families, shutter their business' seize all their bank accounts and disappear or assassinate any of their leaders. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62131591  Italy08/25/2014 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did US make something good in his history or only shit? In 2nd WW they opened the Sicilians criminals jails and funded them for years giving a birth to modern mafia! All their battles on Chorea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Balkans were all failures... They blamed Italy for years coz of mafia that is a creature of them and now blame Iraq for ISIS that was funded by them and is a their creation as well! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14620252 United States08/25/2014 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| I'm Ron Burgundy? User ID: 56816993 United States08/25/2014 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." -Edward Bernays |
| Creating Sunshine User ID: 38779369 United States08/25/2014 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think ISIS is just a television image revamp of Al Queda, and the Muslim Brotherhood, but still run by all the same people (Saudi Arabia, USA, Britain, and Israel). Quoting: Saddletramp No one had ever fucking heard of ISIS three months ago, now they are the single deadliest, largest, weaponized, and well funded terrorist organization the world has ever seen. So why did we need a new and improved enemy? Because they know the American People were sick and fucking tired of war and hearing about Al Queda, when most objective and informed people already knew it was all a CIA creation and we were fully in bed with them in Libya, Tunisia, and Syria... Bin Laden is dead, and they needed a new and even more frightening face for Global Terrorism. So here comes ISIS, storming the castle like the propaganda barbarians they are paid to be, but how do they get a war weary public in the USA to back another adventure in the Middle East? 9/11 ring any bells? The boogieman comin', time to open your wallets and give up your freedoms... +9 Many of us are full aware of what is REALLY going on! Hard to believe their are still folks out there who still fall for it.....ho hummnnn.....and until they wake up, this is what we are dealing with and their show must go on! In the meantime all we can do is sit back and watch the PROGRAM or change the channel! Live and let live. We don't need to pray ,or beg our CREATOR for him to hear us, we just need to remove the walls we've built. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56113366 Norway08/25/2014 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 54218278 United States08/25/2014 08:34 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :Prezgolf: Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42515749 United States08/25/2014 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States08/25/2014 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISIS is not funded by USA, but by Russia, just like the Chechens fighting in Ukraine. ISIS commander is a Chechen! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62127486 Omar al-Shishani has become the most recognisable commander of Isis terror group Omar al-Shishani, one of hundreds of Chechens who have been among the toughest jihadi fighters in Syria, has emerged as the face of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, appearing frequently in its online videos. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Rising Star of ISIS Has Chechen Background and Fierce Reputation ... [link to www.nbcnews.com] either you're a paid shill or a tard, or both  YEP. The Russians and the Chechens are enemies last I checked... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62132956 Romania08/25/2014 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISIS is not funded by USA, but by Russia, just like the Chechens fighting in Ukraine. ISIS commander is a Chechen! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62127486 Omar al-Shishani has become the most recognisable commander of Isis terror group Omar al-Shishani, one of hundreds of Chechens who have been among the toughest jihadi fighters in Syria, has emerged as the face of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, appearing frequently in its online videos. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Rising Star of ISIS Has Chechen Background and Fierce Reputation ... [link to www.nbcnews.com] either you're a paid shill or a tard, or both YEP. The Russians and the Chechens are enemies last I checked... Looks like it was more than 5 years ago the last time you've checked! As of 2009, Russia has severely disabled the Chechen separatist movement and large-scale fighting has ceased. On 15 April 2009, the counter-terrorism operation in Chechnya was officially ended. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62132556 United States08/25/2014 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| I'm Ron Burgundy? User ID: 56816993 United States08/25/2014 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is a CIA/US gov't created & tax payer funded entity designed to keep the war on terror going. Quoting: I'm Ron Burgundy? Just keep thinking that and be prepared for a very rude awakening. These guys are a completely different beast and very dangerous because of their fanatic focus. You're probably right....at this point. But if you think they were not created by the CIA/US gov't then you are a serious koolaid guzzler! IMO, they completely underestimated how badly (and quickly) creating a group like this could back fire. Now they can't stop them because they have their own funding. "THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." -Edward Bernays |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62132956 Romania08/25/2014 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last time I've checked, US has hit hard ISIS's but, so why are you claiming that US is funding ISIS? August 08, 2014 Two US fighter jets strike ISIS artillery in Iraq's Kurdistan Two F/A-18 aircraft dropped 500-pound laser-guided bombs on a mobile artillery piece near the city of Erbil. US personnel are based in the city. [link to rt.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62132956 Romania08/25/2014 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was posted before, but nobody from GLP replied to this thread because the evidence was against the official mantra: Thread: Two US fighter jets strike ISIS artillery in Iraq's Kurdistan - Pentagon |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56816993 United States08/25/2014 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1459791  Canada08/25/2014 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly it's pretty patternistic US supported Saddam - till he wanted to dinar the oil US supported the Taliban - till they blocked heroin production US supported Free Syrian Army fighters till they morphed into ISIS and started selling oil to Russia who sells it to Europe. - all of a sudden their evil beyond comprehension worse than what GIJOE had to deal with when he fought cobra commander.. US supported US citizens till socialist communism was firmly in place.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56113366 Norway08/25/2014 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [ But if you think they were not created by the CIA/US gov't then you are a serious koolaid guzzler! IMO, they completely underestimated how badly (and quickly) creating a group like this could back fire. Now they can't stop them because they have their own funding. Quoting: I'm Ron Burgundy? What they miscalculated was how supplying weapons to FSA and other so called moderate muslim groups in Syria would backfire. The IS guys basically robbed them wholesale, turned the weapons against them and went on a shooting spree. The west has also been lulled into this false pretense of moderate and peaceful muslims. They exist under certain conditions, but the beast keeps lurking within. |
| OrdoAbChao User ID: 60967972 United States08/25/2014 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its all over gas and oil. simple as that [link to www.greatdreams.com] look at your key players in that region. look where these pipelines run to. how ironic that syria was a key country in terms of oil pipe highways. ''The 2011 uprisings, it would seem - triggered by a confluence of domestic energy shortages and climate-induced droughts which led to massive food price hikes - came at an opportune moment that was quickly exploited. Leaked emails from the private intelligence firm Stratfor including notes from a meeting with Pentagon officials confirmed US-UK training of Syrian opposition forces since 2011 aimed at eliciting "collapse" of Assad's regime "from within." So what was this unfolding strategy to undermine Syria and Iran all about? According to retired NATO Secretary General Wesley Clark, a memo from the Office of the US Secretary of Defense just a few weeks after 9/11 revealed plans to "attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years", starting with Iraq and moving on to "Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran." In a subsequent interview, Clark argues that this strategy is fundamentally about control of the region's vast oil and gas resources.''  Last Edited by OrdoAbChao on 08/25/2014 09:33 AM “Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we’re being run by maniacs for manical ends and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.” John Lennon |
