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Buying a new telescope. Advice please.

 
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As a child I was bought a 70mm Tasco refractor. It was a toy, but I nonetheless got countless hours of enjoyment from it. The moon was great. I could just make out that Saturn had rings. The phases of Venus were easy to spot. I could even get a glimpse of a nebulae or two.

Now that I'm a big boy I want a serious scope. I'm torn between the option of a bigger scope or a smaller one with some accessories like a camera.

I've researched it to death and along with my own experiences I've settled on a refractor. I know every other scope design is better according to most people, but by golly the old refractor does have some bad ass qualities.

So I will either get a 102mm Celestron Omni with a few hundred bucks worth of eye pieces and camera, or I'll get the big bad boy 150mm Omni with maybe 1 extra eye piece.

I want the best with all the accessories, but I just can't afford it.

Options, ideas, or opinions?
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GLP has a telescope you can control remotely

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I thought that was still in the fantasy stage. The remote control part I mean.
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dont buy a telescope nasa has hubble..help the homeless
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GLP has a telescope you can control remotely

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ohno


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[link to www.telescopes.com]
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dont buy a telescope nasa has hubble..help the homeless
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The homeless are welcome to get a job.

Besides, I intend to join a society and contribute in a small way to the body of data that astronomers have to work with. I'll be contributing to the furthering of humanity's knowledge. That's noble enough.
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I knew somebody would bust out a reflector right off the bat.

I know they have their share of advantages, but I just don't want to fool with something that can be so finicky. Besides, a certain amount of the advantage attributed to reflectors is just bunk. Quality refractors out perform mirrors inch for inch....IMO.
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I'm Unixlike when I'm logged in.
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I been into Astronomy since about 1979. I`ve owned a lot of scopes and still do. I am currently restoring a 5" refractor made in the 1920`s the focuser weighs 7 pounds on this yard cannon. I have had a look through about all makes and types.
The best scope i have enjoyed the most is a C-5 Celestron i bought used made in 1980. I have a C-9.25 but with the mount it`s really a hassel to set up unless i plan on a long viewing session.

Go join your local Astronomy club and look through a few before you make up your mind and join us on the "Cloudy Nights Astronomy forum" as well.
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MicroMike?
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I'm Unixlike when I'm logged in.
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Why assume I was talking about a username?
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I knew somebody would bust out a reflector right off the bat.

I know they have their share of advantages, but I just don't want to fool with something that can be so finicky. Besides, a certain amount of the advantage attributed to reflectors is just bunk. Quality refractors out perform mirrors inch for inch....IMO.
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IMO refractors put the big hurt on your neck after hours of viewing.

The best place to place your cash is gas so you can drive to a dark site.
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I been into Astronomy since about 1979. I`ve owned a lot of scopes and still do. I am currently restoring a 5" refractor made in the 1920`s the focuser weighs 7 pounds on this yard cannon. I have had a look through about all makes and types.
The best scope i have enjoyed the most is a C-5 Celestron i bought used made in 1980. I have a C-9.25 but with the mount it`s really a hassel to set up unless i plan on a long viewing session.

Go join your local Astronomy club and look through a few before you make up your mind and join us on the "Cloudy Nights Astronomy forum" as well.
 Quoting: eolian


I've already got my packet to join a club locally. I'm also looking into joining AAVSO or some similar organization so that I can participate in organized data collection. I'm actually more interested in NEOs.

But I need to get my scope in and get some experience with it. There's a bit of expense involved with tracking asteroids and all that.

I very much enjoy participating in science and conducting technical exploits. As such I'm of course a member of SETI@HOME. My Linux machine crunches away nightly.
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I knew somebody would bust out a reflector right off the bat.

I know they have their share of advantages, but I just don't want to fool with something that can be so finicky. Besides, a certain amount of the advantage attributed to reflectors is just bunk. Quality refractors out perform mirrors inch for inch....IMO.
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IMO refractors put the big hurt on your neck after hours of viewing.

The best place to place your cash is gas so you can drive to a dark site.
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I remember the neck pain. Of course today it isn't all that hard to view it all on a laptop. Indeed, if I participate in research that'll be a part of it.
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GLP has a telescope you can control remotely

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Thread: vintage Alvin Clark refracting telescope will be able to be remotely accessed from every classroom in SC
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Get the best you can afford. Buy high quality eyepieces. Check out Orions catalog. You can get a camera that replaces the eyepiece. Pop that in your laptop and you can even stargaze from inside your house! No worries about neckpain. If you don't want to go the camera route, get a stool with adjustable legs like we had in school. You can find them in thrift stores. No worries no crooks in the neck! Hope that gives you an idea or two!

[link to www.telescope.com]

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The most expensive ones are better.
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Where's Doc when you need him? lol

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The most expensive ones are better.
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I know. I'm really leaning for the 150mm. A 6 inch refractor is kind of big. 6 inches might not be all that big when you're talking reflectors, but at the star parties I've been to 6 inch refractors are usually pretty popular hang outs.
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This has been discussed previously, but look at the stellarvue scopes, they are made in usa not china and are hand made and high quality.
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Go big or go home OP... the 6" will get way more light.
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I didnt see you were saying refactor. Get get a reflector, you should be able to get something in the 8"-10" range on a good GEM mount... or get a 10"-12" Dob. it will get you much further than a 6". Also the refractors can be a pain in the ass to use because of the eyepiece location depending on where in the sky you are looking.
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the cheap refractors also suffer from chromatic aberration. you wont have to worry about that with a newtonian
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The sole microscope I bought was a the first futureshop that open in my town. 200$. I return it the same day so I have no idea.

But.. I would advice you to ask Dr. Astro.
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Schmidt Cassegrain style. Good brand though, at least spend 3-4 grand.
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For drooling purposes:
[link to www.telescopes.com]

More reasonable and practical:
[link to www.telescopes.com]
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The sole microscope I bought was a the first futureshop that open in my town. 200$. I return it the same day so I have no idea.

But.. I would advice you to ask Dr. Astro.
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microscope? 1rof1
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EBAY Craigslist

there used to be a news letter called the Starry Messenger where a lot of used equipment was sold. Google yjay nad hunt around.

BTW, I'd buy older optics. Other than Astro Physics which will cost you like a nice sports cars. The older optics for refractors were made in Japan. Now I bet everything is made in China. bleh
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What are your interests, OP? The higher your level of interest in the moon and planets, the more you'll appreciate the longer F ratio of the 102.

Speaking for myself, I'd take a long look at the 120 as a compromise between objective and the f ratio. It'll perform well over a variety of celestial objects.
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For drooling purposes:
[link to www.telescopes.com]

More reasonable and practical:
[link to www.telescopes.com]
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That celestron Omni xlt 120 is right in the middle of the two I was considering. I'm leaning toward an Omni xlt 150, but am considering a 102 with lots of accesories. The Omni 150 is almost $900.
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What are your interests, OP? The higher your level of interest in the moon and planets, the more you'll appreciate the longer F ratio of the 102.

Speaking for myself, I'd take a long look at the 120 as a compromise between objective and the f ratio. It'll perform well over a variety of celestial objects.
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That being said, however, I should mention that you'll get more for your money with a good reflector.





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