If Jehovah's Witnesses sent bible lessons to Martians over radio would they listen? See video.

Any true Christian or Jew is a "Jehovas witness". It's not decided by men, definitely not the JW. Their company compromised

Yes we do. And it is sad to watch people, some who are even friends, get pulled away from the truth by these criminal enterprises.

You make a good point there!

Thats your logic, or should I say the JH, inc.s logic ingrained in your head.

the end you guys predicted in 1914?

in 1925?

in 1975?

in 1980?

what's the latest date?

What does the bible say is the the test of a true propht?

What used to be done with FALSE prophets?

Desperate? really?

Dont have to go very far...

Letting children die because they wont be given a blood transfusion?

Why should anyone want to be a part of that?

Well I have a better answer: Let them live!

How can you face God in the day of judgement after letting children die?

The reason the organization never claimed to know when the end of Satan's reign of terror will happen is this simple;
"Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned; 41 two women will be grinding at the hand mill: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned. 42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.
43 “But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 On this account YOU too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that YOU do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming." Mt24:36
Trying to figure out a prophesy does not make a bible student a prophet. If you have it figured out please share it.

One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man's existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows , neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36)
Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.494 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975?

"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone! This is why parents who base their lives on God's prophetic Word find it much more practical to direct their young ones into trades that do not require such long periods of additional schooling.. True, those who do not understand where we are in the stream of time from God's viewpoint will call this impractical. But which is really practical: preparing yourself for a position in this world that soon will pass away? or working toward surviving this system's end and enjoying eternal life in God's righteous new order?" {AWAKE May 22 1969 15}

The generation of 1914 has passed away and the young person of the time is growing old, and the high school student who will never fulfill any career are either retired, or very close to retiring.

They most certainly did make a prediction, credited it to Jehovah, and were wrong. That is a false prophet.

Likely it was posted to refute something that was claimed to be true, but wasn't. If it's trash, you'll have to discuss that matter with the people at the head of your organization. Wasn't me that created the "trash".

It was such a simple question.

I saw that they were taking the place of the Holy Spirit, which is a great big thing!

2nd baptismal vow...

instead of being baptized in Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, they replaced it with Spirit directed Organization.

that is the same as denying the Holy Spirit to me, and my conscience could not go along with this.

whose spirit I thought is directing?

My God, you are deluded.

The "organization" is a Corporation. Baptized into a Corporation. No,I couldn't do it either.

It's probably a whole lot different being on the "inside" looking out, than being on the outside looking in.

To them, the governing body can say the end will come in 1975 and they believe it.

Then, the governing body can say we didn't say the end would come in 1975....and they believe it.

Inside, they trust them. Outside, we question.

yeap, he figured it out that you are a liar!

So are the rest for your governing body FALSE PROPHETS

also still waiting for an answer to all the children

YOU KILLED from lack of a blood transfusion, think you can justify that to God in the Day of Judgement?

What - "I was just following orders?"

There is no prophesy regarding 1975 it simply marked 6,000 years from the creation of Adam.
Meanwhile, regarding God's kingdom to come;
"Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.” Lk21;25

If I am a Jehovah's witness I am not allowed to have a beard, why not?

Would you guys reject Jesus when he comes back if he has a beard?

also still waiting for answer to my question why should I become a jehovah's witness and let my children die because they cannot get a blood transfusion?

Would you be willing to say they are wrong in this respect? Why not?

I watched that video, pathetically produced, it only talks about pre-planned procedures.

Again,

I or my family are victims of major trauma, say a Motor vehicle accident - as per the doctors in the ER only chance of survival is a blood transfusion immediately

What would happen to me if I choose to save my family church wise? would I be disfellowshipped?

Would I no longer be saved?

The governing body was wrong about 1975, could they be wrong about this? yes or no?

If you were a student of the Bible, you would know clearly what it says about blood and it's use

I know what the governing body says...

So I guess your answer is yes, let the children die?

Do you know what the BIBLE says about blood

I know what the bible says about blood nothing there about child sacrifice....

You're answering a question with a question so I'll assume your answer is yes, you would let your children die rather than give them a blood transfusion...

People: This is what you will face when you join this cult....

so far: crickets from DGN...

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If a person knows what the Bible says about blood, they will make their own Bible based decisions about medical procedure's and not try to shift the blame onto someone else, rather, take the matter up with God, it is HIS words

Just because the medical field says blood is the only answer to emergencies, it shows how little educated some are as there are many other alternatives to blood,and have proven successful many times

Do some research on it.....before you caste your judgements

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The Judgement YOU cast letting people DIE is a lot more final than anything I can say or do.

if I can save one person from joining a heretical anti biblical cult and perhaps even dying, it's worth it.

You are shifting the blame onto God, when he said no such thing, in fact the opposite:
[link to www.biblesabbath.org]
Because Jesus performed miracles of healing on the Sabbath, some Pharisees accused Him of breaking the Sabbath (Matthew 12:10; Mark 3:2, John 9:14-16). John records that Jesus performed a healing during one of the festivals in Jerusalem. John's gospel records what happened next, when Jesus confronted His accusers: "Jesus answered them, 'My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God" (John 5:17-18).

What would you say if the governing body reversed its position on blood transfusions?

Think it cant happen? they've done it before with other medical procedures.


Last Edited by Atari800XL on 09/01/2014 03:51 PM

"Shifting the blame to God? He is the Creator and has say as to how blood is to be used, and he makes that quite clear in the scriptures




}8 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”-Acts 15:28,29

I know you're joking, but at best you're describing the "International Bible Students", who still exist, at best ;)

One of my favorite points whenever someone gets hooked on the C.T.R. and Pyramid blah, just point them to his modern day followers.. Of course, for anyone of intelligence, the christian "renaissance" at the turn of the last century had more with the.. "occult" references to do than anything C.T. ever came up with.

JWs are yet without blemish in my books.

Save your arguments JW haters, I know them all. Heck, I even tried to find crap on them myself for over 25 years now. I had hoped in finding one good reason to scratch them from my list of candidate organisations that follow YHWH and his son. Now they're the only ones left on the list, lol.

Here's one besides the blood transfusion debacle:

1975 = False Prophets

why don't you smell what you're shovelin'?

People love to hate Jehovah's Witnesses, it is one of the things that convinced me years ago that they have the truth, just from the sheer hate!!!!

Christ told us a thousand years. what do you think a civilization can accomplish in 1000 years or even 2000 years. the answer is look around, you are living in it.

Then there are the "martians" which highly likely are not organic like we think. Imagine their kingdom, "without an end"

Do you think that the civilization that is only 2000 years old, needs to preach to an army without an end?

the answer is hogwash.

If Jesus was "taken up" as well as Prophets. Do you not think he(Jesus) would have already told "them"

Jesus left us with two commands. #1 Love thy God with all your heart. #2 Love thy neighbor with all your heart.

Christ left us with one final order, which many "Christians" disobey.

#3 To become like children, Eyes and Ears Only.

Preaching to the Stars is a fruitless objective.

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"
Mark 16:15